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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#941 » by JDR720 » Sat May 24, 2014 7:30 pm

a startling lineup of Kemba/Stauskas/MKG/Monroe/Al would score a lot probably but the defense will be really bad, we would have at least 4 average defenders on the bench, Gerald/Biz/Taylor and Zeller so i think it should average out and i would want us to sign another defender maybe Thabo Sefolosha
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Post#942 » by MasterIchiro » Sat May 24, 2014 7:44 pm

JDR720 wrote:a startling lineup of Kemba/Stauskas/MKG/Monroe/Al would score a lot probably but the defense will be really bad, we would have at least 4 average defenders on the bench, Gerald/Biz/Taylor and Zeller so i think it should average out and i would want us to sign another defender maybe Thabo Sefolosha



Yeah probably right, defensively we'd be a lot like the Blazers. We'd be a better team overall and more fun to watch but we couldn't hang with the heavyweights in the West.
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Post#943 » by No-Man » Sun May 25, 2014 4:01 am

If Zeller develops as a shooter I like the, Walker-Stephenson-MKG-Zeller-Jefferson with Napier-Henderson-Taylor-CDR-McDermott-McRoberts-Biyombo from the bench, the rest of the guys can be just fillers or whatever.
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Post#944 » by Radu_Hornets » Sun May 25, 2014 2:12 pm

If Chris bosh opts out (which I doubt), do you think there will be any chance for us to sign him ?

He would fit us so perfectly.

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Post#945 » by Walt Cronkite » Sun May 25, 2014 2:26 pm

I think Stephenson is going to get overpaid this summer and would prefer it not to be by the Hornets. If it is, please let it be a shorter deal. I don't mind the idea of signing Monroe if it was on a reasonable deal.
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Post#946 » by HornetJail » Sun May 25, 2014 2:32 pm

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JDR720 wrote:a startling lineup of Kemba/Stauskas/MKG/Monroe/Al would score a lot probably but the defense will be really bad, we would have at least 4 average defenders on the bench, Gerald/Biz/Taylor and Zeller so i think it should average out and i would want us to sign another defender maybe Thabo Sefolosha



Yeah probably right, defensively we'd be a lot like the Blazers. We'd be a better team overall and more fun to watch but we couldn't hang with the heavyweights in the West.

That would be terrible. I don't even think we'd be anywhere close to the Blazers. Quite honestly, I think that line-up could be a step back from last season. In terms of fit with Big Al, McRoberts > Monroe. Monroe doesn't make sense for this roster unless they're trying to trade Big Al, which would be stupid.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#947 » by MasterIchiro » Sun May 25, 2014 2:36 pm

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JDR720 wrote:a startling lineup of Kemba/Stauskas/MKG/Monroe/Al would score a lot probably but the defense will be really bad, we would have at least 4 average defenders on the bench, Gerald/Biz/Taylor and Zeller so i think it should average out and i would want us to sign another defender maybe Thabo Sefolosha



Yeah probably right, defensively we'd be a lot like the Blazers. We'd be a better team overall and more fun to watch but we couldn't hang with the heavyweights in the West.

That would be terrible. I don't even think we'd be anywhere close to the Blazers. Quite honestly, I think that line-up could be a step back from last season. In terms of fit with Big Al, McRoberts > Monroe. Monroe doesn't make sense for this roster unless they're trying to trade Big Al, which would be stupid.


McRoberts doesn't belong in a starting lineup. Monroe is a borderline all-star 15-10 guy. If Stauskas is drafted we have no need for ball handling or 3 pt shooting from PF. We need rebounding and inside presence on offense. When Al misses time and we don't have an inside game we become one of the worst teams in the league. Adding Stauskas + Monroe and subtracting Henderson + McRoberts is a huge upgrade.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#948 » by HornetJail » Sun May 25, 2014 2:40 pm

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Yeah probably right, defensively we'd be a lot like the Blazers. We'd be a better team overall and more fun to watch but we couldn't hang with the heavyweights in the West.

That would be terrible. I don't even think we'd be anywhere close to the Blazers. Quite honestly, I think that line-up could be a step back from last season. In terms of fit with Big Al, McRoberts > Monroe. Monroe doesn't make sense for this roster unless they're trying to trade Big Al, which would be stupid.


McRoberts doesn't belong in a starting lineup. Monroe is a borderline all-star 15-10 guy. If Stauskas is drafted we have no need for ball handling or 3 pt shooting from PF. We need rebounding and inside presence on offense. When Al misses time and we don't have an inside game we become one of the worst teams in the league. Adding Stauskas + Monroe and subtracting Henderson + McRoberts is a huge upgrade.

This team needs all the floor spacing it can get. We have a PG that hits like crazy some nights, but can't shoot for crap other nights, a SF with no range, and a C that needs the paint to himself. You better believe the SG and PF positions need to be floor spacers. I would absolutely love a Kemba/Nik/MKG/McBob/Big Al lineup. If we wanted to upgrade PF and we couldn't get ourselves a floor spacer, he better be an excellent defensive player, otherwise this team would be a rich-man's version of the 13-14 Pistons.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#949 » by MasterIchiro » Sun May 25, 2014 2:50 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
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Biz Gilwalker wrote:That would be terrible. I don't even think we'd be anywhere close to the Blazers. Quite honestly, I think that line-up could be a step back from last season. In terms of fit with Big Al, McRoberts > Monroe. Monroe doesn't make sense for this roster unless they're trying to trade Big Al, which would be stupid.


McRoberts doesn't belong in a starting lineup. Monroe is a borderline all-star 15-10 guy. If Stauskas is drafted we have no need for ball handling or 3 pt shooting from PF. We need rebounding and inside presence on offense. When Al misses time and we don't have an inside game we become one of the worst teams in the league. Adding Stauskas + Monroe and subtracting Henderson + McRoberts is a huge upgrade.

This team needs all the floor spacing it can get. We have a PG that hits like crazy some nights, but can't shoot for crap other nights, a SF with no range, and a C that needs the paint to himself. You better believe the SG and PF positions need to be floor spacers. I would absolutely love a Kemba/Nik/MKG/McBob/Big Al lineup. If we wanted to upgrade PF and we couldn't get ourselves a floor spacer, he better be an excellent defensive player, otherwise this team would be a rich-man's version of the 13-14 Pistons.


Ok I hear your point I just feel our guard play is strong enough to be solid today and young enough to become elite in a few years. And I do want to start planning for life after Big Al because that may happen tomorrow. Greg Monroe as a C is a great prospect to groom into Al's role on the team and true maybe its a year too early or 2 at the most but it could be right on time considering Al's the biggest injury risk on the team.

I do think the Hornets in order to rekindle their relationship with Charlotte fans have to spend that cap space before the gates open and Kemba walks out in the new uni.

Since Stauskas is my guy, I'm not interested in spending money on a guard as much as I was before we won pick 9 and started looking at all these prospects.

So for the cap space expenditure, which I would bet good money is going to happen before the gates open, not during or after the first season, I'd think the only target remaining is Luol Deng. Since he's not as young as Monroe, I like him less.

But that's what we're facing - Deng or Monroe.

Hayward is ideal but I feel Utah will match.

And with Stauskas here, Hayward pushes MKG out of the lineup.

Kemba + Stauskas will create plenty of spacing for a team so strong in the paint that draws defense in with 2 giants who score and rebound.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#950 » by JDR720 » Sun May 25, 2014 3:20 pm

whatever SG we draft will have to beat out Gerald for the starting role, Clifford wont just hand it to them
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Post#951 » by JDR720 » Sun May 25, 2014 3:27 pm

I can see us go after Kris Humphries, we wanted him a while ago via trade, he is a very good midrange shooter also (46.6%)
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Post#952 » by fatlever » Sun May 25, 2014 4:07 pm

JDR720 wrote:whatever SG we draft will have to beat out Gerald for the starting role, Clifford wont just hand it to them


if hendo is on the roster next year and we dont sign a free agent shooting guard (hayward, lance) or trade for a vet shooting guard (afflalo), he will be the starter. hendo is not going to lose his starting job to a rookie. you can take that to the bank.
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Post#953 » by fatlever » Sun May 25, 2014 5:48 pm

how much money did evan turner lose due to the trade to indiana? 10mil? 20mil? if he stays in philly, puts up big stats thru the end of the season and then goes on vacation for 3 months, he probably gets 4/28 easy. now he'll be lucky to get half that.
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Post#954 » by BeesWax » Sun May 25, 2014 6:25 pm

fatlever wrote:how much money did evan turner lose due to the trade to indiana? 10mil? 20mil? if he stays in philly, puts up big stats thru the end of the season and then goes on vacation for 3 months, he probably gets 4/28 easy. now he'll be lucky to get half that.

I know. He really got hurt with this move.
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Post#955 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun May 25, 2014 8:29 pm

jdm3 wrote:
fatlever wrote:how much money did evan turner lose due to the trade to indiana? 10mil? 20mil? if he stays in philly, puts up big stats thru the end of the season and then goes on vacation for 3 months, he probably gets 4/28 easy. now he'll be lucky to get half that.

I know. He really got hurt with this move.

am I a bad person for having a bit of joy seeing Turner get exposed and costing himself money?
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Post#956 » by BeesWax » Sun May 25, 2014 10:38 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
fatlever wrote:how much money did evan turner lose due to the trade to indiana? 10mil? 20mil? if he stays in philly, puts up big stats thru the end of the season and then goes on vacation for 3 months, he probably gets 4/28 easy. now he'll be lucky to get half that.

I know. He really got hurt with this move.

am I a bad person for having a bit of joy seeing Turner get exposed and costing himself money?

I hope not because that would make me a bad person too.
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Post#957 » by TheKingofSting2 » Sun May 25, 2014 10:54 pm

JDR720 wrote:a startling lineup of Kemba/Stauskas/MKG/Monroe/Al would score a lot probably but the defense will be really bad, we would have at least 4 average defenders on the bench, Gerald/Biz/Taylor and Zeller so i think it should average out and i would want us to sign another defender maybe Thabo Sefolosha


I see that as a Top 4 seed in the East but I would like to have Lance Stephenson and bring Stauskas off of the bench.
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Post#958 » by BeesWax » Sun May 25, 2014 11:35 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
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Yeah probably right, defensively we'd be a lot like the Blazers. We'd be a better team overall and more fun to watch but we couldn't hang with the heavyweights in the West.

That would be terrible. I don't even think we'd be anywhere close to the Blazers. Quite honestly, I think that line-up could be a step back from last season. In terms of fit with Big Al, McRoberts > Monroe. Monroe doesn't make sense for this roster unless they're trying to trade Big Al, which would be stupid.


McRoberts doesn't belong in a starting lineup. Monroe is a borderline all-star 15-10 guy. If Stauskas is drafted we have no need for ball handling or 3 pt shooting from PF. We need rebounding and inside presence on offense. When Al misses time and we don't have an inside game we become one of the worst teams in the league. Adding Stauskas + Monroe and subtracting Henderson + McRoberts is a huge upgrade.

McRobert belongs in the starting lineup as a PF more than Monroe and more than Zeller in terms of team fit. If we could use Henderson and Zeller to get ahold of Hayward and clear enough space to go after Monroe too I would be a little better with it.

Kemba - Hayward - MKG - Monroe - Al
Napier/Vasquez - Nik - Hayward - McRoberts - Monroe

8 man rotation like what is used around playoff time and fill in the rest of the bench with what we have like Taylor, Neal and Biz and we have a solid group.
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Post#959 » by Tarheel11981 » Sun May 25, 2014 11:44 pm

I would think the Pacers would do everything in their power to keep Lance in uniform. It would probably take a max deal or close to it. Are folks good with that?
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Post#960 » by JDR720 » Sun May 25, 2014 11:45 pm

Tarheel11981 wrote:I would think the Pacers would do everything in their power to keep Lance in uniform. It would probably take a max deal or close to it. Are folks good with that?

max deal? Lance Stephenson? nope no way

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