Rhymes with Nintendo - The Gerald Henderson Thread

[fatlever]

cho needs to stand his ground on this one. im sure they have made hendo an offer. hendo can either accept it, take the QO or bring cho an offers sheet from another team, which we can either match or decline. nothing else needs to be done by the cats. they have all the leverage right now.

plus, anyone who knows anything about hoops can realize that hendo doesnt exactly fit our roster as currently constructed. we need 3pt shooting to compliment jefferson's post game and MKGs lack of shooting.

do not overpay for a guy with no options who doesnt fit the roster and is probably close to his peak as a player and is not good enough to be anything better than a 4th option on a great team.

[LamarMatic7]

cho needs to stand his ground on this one. im sure they have made hendo an offer. hendo can either accept it, take the QO or bring cho an offers sheet from another team, which we can either match or decline. nothing else needs to be done by the cats. they have all the leverage right now.

plus, anyone who knows anything about hoops can realize that hendo doesnt exactly fit our roster as currently constructed. we need 3pt shooting to compliment jefferson's post game and MKGs lack of shooting.

do not overpay for a guy with no options who doesnt fit the roster and is probably close to his peak as a player and is not good enough to be anything better than a 4th option on a great team.

moreover, even though he can be angry at the FO for not taking care of him, he'll still need to bring it on the court since it would be another contract year for him.

[LamarMatic7]

But there has been action on Jennings.

Has there? Jennings seems to be in the same boat as Hendo with no other options that signing the QO from Milwaukee.

[fatlever]

does anyone think hendo will have a better year in 2013-14 than last year if he signs the QO and stays?
- we have added two legit offensive weapons in jefferson and zeller meaning less shots for henderson
- jefferson needs shooters to space the floor and if hendo cant be that guy to make 3s, others will get minutes
- sharing minutes with taylor, mkg, gordon and sessions, with the 1st three most likely to be improved from last season, thus commanding more minutes. (going on a limb and suggesting gordon will play better for clifford, especially with a big on the floor who will command a double)
- hendo has never been one to stay healthy for a season

[mrknowitall215]

does anyone think hendo will have a better year in 2013-14 than last year if he signs the QO and stays?
- we have added two legit offensive weapons in jefferson and zeller meaning less shots for henderson
- jefferson needs shooters to space the floor and if hendo cant be that guy to make 3s, others will get minutes
- sharing minutes with taylor, mkg, gordon and sessions, with the 1st three most likely to be improved from last season, thus commanding more minutes. (going on a limb and suggesting gordon will play better for clifford, especially with a big on the floor who will command a double)
- hendo has never been one to stay healthy for a season

I can't envision Gerald Henderson having a better season statistically than last season as far as raw numbers go now that Charlotte has scoring talent in the frontcourt in Al Jefferson & Cody Zeller, not to mention the inevitable improvements by Kemba Walker & Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. I thought it would've been smart for him to take any deal over $5 million annually for 3 years. I can understand why a 2-year deal would've been too risky for Henderson & his agent to accept, but a 1-year deal is even worst for his situation

[HornetJail]

does anyone think hendo will have a better year in 2013-14 than last year if he signs the QO and stays?
- we have added two legit offensive weapons in jefferson and zeller meaning less shots for henderson
- jefferson needs shooters to space the floor and if hendo cant be that guy to make 3s, others will get minutes
- sharing minutes with taylor, mkg, gordon and sessions, with the 1st three most likely to be improved from last season, thus commanding more minutes. (going on a limb and suggesting gordon will play better for clifford, especially with a big on the floor who will command a double)
- hendo has never been one to stay healthy for a season

He'll be noticed a little more next season if we are an improved team over last year. Nobody looked twice at him this season because he was putting up big numbers on a bad team.

Hendo's value is probably as high as it's going to be unless he makes a drastic improvement in his shooting ability. MKG, Taylor, and Kemba all have a summer to work on their games and all look to make big strides this year. Hendo will have to take a reduced role, particularly with Jefferson coming in, that bumps him down to third option at best. Henderson would be better off taking a 6-7M deal for the next 3 years than taking his QO.

[fatlever]

i'm guessing the bobcats havent offered anything in the 7 mil for 3 years range though.

[Marvel]

He's not worth $8mil-what Mayo got. That's the number i think he's got in his head. Either that or his agent's a moron. $7 seems about right, he's currently not worth more than that. He needs to play more than half a good season if he wants $8mil money or more and he needs to stay healthy.

I think he'll end up taking the QO, but if he's smart he should settle on a 3 year $6.5 mil contract, build a reputation and get your big payday later on.

[fatlever]

and what if cho has put out 3 deals on the table and isnt going to budge
1) 4 years, 20 mil
2) 3 years, 16.5 mil
3) 2 years, 12 mil

more years, less per year or more per year, less money

what would you do if you were hendo?

[JDuaneWayne]

and what if cho has put out 3 deals on the table and isnt going to budge
1) 4 years, 20 mil
2) 3 years, 16.5 mil
3) 2 years, 12 mil

more years, less per year or more per year, less money

what would you do if you were hendo?

I personally would sign the 2 year deal at this point in my career. Not much risk and potentially huge reward. He improves his game and he makes 4-5x the 8 mil he is missing out on. Plus he doesn't seem like a guy who waste his money so regardless he SHOULD be financially set for life with potential for one really nice pay day.

[mrknowitall215]

and what if cho has put out 3 deals on the table and isnt going to budge
1) 4 years, 20 mil
2) 3 years, 16.5 mil
3) 2 years, 12 mil

more years, less per year or more per year, less money

what would you do if you were hendo?

If I was Gerald Henderson, I would take the 3-year deal, because it would give me more security. A 1 or 2 year deal would feel too much like a tryout where I would have to prove myself too often. A 3-year deal will give me faith that either the Bobcats/Hornets want me in their future, and if not, they'll be able to trade me to a contender that'll value my services since I'm on a reasonable deal. It's all in the blankets

[HornetJail]

3-year deal and try to get a player option on the third year.

[Diop]

I think I could live reasonably comfy with 16.5 mill, might have to limit the wife's spending, but I should survive.

That would probably be my choice.

[ohara]

I go with 4 years and $20 mil. Show me the money. Want that security. And Hendo at $5 mil per is still a solid contract and can be traded if need arises. Good for both sides I think.

[Elden Payton]

I go with 4 years and $20 mil. Show me the money. Want that security. And Hendo at $5 mil per is still a solid contract and can be traded if need arises. Good for both sides I think.

I'm with Ohara on this one.

Hendo should look at his pal She-J and what turning down longterm guaranteed money for the unknown does to (league) average players.

I really like Hendo but I don't think he's worth Mayo type money at 8m per.

[BigSlam]

and what if cho has put out 3 deals on the table and isnt going to budge
1) 4 years, 20 mil
2) 3 years, 16.5 mil
3) 2 years, 12 mil

more years, less per year or more per year, less money

what would you do if you were hendo?

We still might not have a starting SG on the roster (BG or JT) so if Hendo was back he would be a lock to start.

Because of that if I am Hendo, I take the QO, try and carry my form over from the last 20 games of last season to this season and go into free agency next summer looking to get paid.

Hendo is much better and more confident than someone like Augustin so I don't think he would get burnt in the same way.

[lmcguir5]

and what if cho has put out 3 deals on the table and isnt going to budge
1) 4 years, 20 mil
2) 3 years, 16.5 mil
3) 2 years, 12 mil

more years, less per year or more per year, less money

what would you do if you were hendo?

We still might not have a starting SG on the roster (BG or JT) so if Hendo was back he would be a lock to start.

Because of that if I am Hendo, I take the QO, try and carry my form over from the last 20 games of last season to this season and go into free agency next summer looking to get paid.

Hendo is much better and more confident than someone like Augustin so I don't think he would get burnt in the same way.

The counter-argument I post to that is that with the Bobcats, Henderson knows that he is the starting two guard. While its nice to have contract security, guys also want to play in this league. Henderson might get paid, but then be relegated to a Tyreke Evans role and I wouldn't forsee him wanting to accept that role.

The last 20 games of last season we're eye-opening for Hendo and the league. I would hate for him to cash in on that by taking a job as a sixth man when he could clearly start.

[ohara]

I dont see Hendo having a continuation of how he finished strong last season. I think with Kemba having Zeller and Jefferson to dish to, and MKG driving to take advantage of their presence, Hendo will be less likely to get a bunch of scoring opportunities. Think he will be solid, but no more so than Taylor at the position. I think Hendo's defense is a quality teams would like. But if he signs the QO, dont see him getting over $6 per on the open market, and that wont be a long deal, maybe only 2 years. So I think for security, he takes the 4 year and $20 mil in this hypo.

[hhvo]

We still might not have a starting SG on the roster (BG or JT) so if Hendo was back he would be a lock to start.

Because of that if I am Hendo, I take the QO, try and carry my form over from the last 20 games of last season to this season and go into free agency next summer looking to get paid.

Hendo is much better and more confident than someone like Augustin so I don't think he would get burnt in the same way.

Say Hendo takes the QO, what's to say the Charlotte won't take a strategic approach that would decease Hendo's value next season. Maybe developing Taylor at the 2 and giving him more mins or playing Ben more to get his trade value up. Essentially, putting the team in a good position and possibly getting Hendo on a lower contract due to his mkt value.

Players who take the QO tend to not get a better deal the following season. I.e. Felton and Augustin

[RichBoy923]

We still might not have a starting SG on the roster (BG or JT) so if Hendo was back he would be a lock to start.

Because of that if I am Hendo, I take the QO, try and carry my form over from the last 20 games of last season to this season and go into free agency next summer looking to get paid.

Hendo is much better and more confident than someone like Augustin so I don't think he would get burnt in the same way.

Say Hendo takes the QO, what's to say the Charlotte won't take a strategic approach that would decease Hendo's value next season. Maybe developing Taylor at the 2 and giving him more mins or playing Ben more to get his trade value up. Essentially, putting the team in a good position and possibly getting Hendo on a lower contract due to his mkt value.

Players who take the QO tend to not get a better deal the following season. I.e. Felton and Augustin

If that was the case (which I think would be absurd), then Hendo would go elsewhere. I don't think teams think like that.