Z-Rex: The Cody Zeller Thread

Eoghan · Post #981 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Dec 4, 2013 6:51 pm

Zeller is getting his touches where he likes them, the high post. He just sucks. Zach Lowe pretty much summed it up on the last page.

JMAC3 · Post #982 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Dec 6, 2013 7:23 am

I think we are being a bit too critical on Cody for only being 20 games into the season. He is not putting up great numbers, but he doesn't look horrible. His percentages are down mostly because we are asking him to shoot more jumpers than he is used to and we are not giving him enough low post/pick and roll looks.

The things that make me optimistic about Zeller still are he is a very intelligent player who has a great work ethic. His game at Indiana did not solely consist of catching the ball at the top of the key and taking jumpers and facilitating the offense. I for one am impressed with how well he is transitioning considering he is only playing 15-20 minutes a night.

He is rebounding pretty well and is hitting a good amount of outside jumpers. I think what hurts him is playing with our second unit he doesn't get as many good looks as he would with the starters. That coupled with we do not really have many great passers on our team, easy looks around the basket don't happen very often. And it is not like we run plays for him either so his shots just come at random times.

Here are some offensive highlights so far this year

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyPDVVAA_5o[/youtube]

After watching these you see that the skill set is there, but he is just not as consistent as you want him to be yet. I think confidence is an issue so far as well, once he gets that going he will hit more of those jumpers and finish more and 1's. Until then we just have to find the bright spots in his game. Also, his form on his jumper is very consistent so in a year or 2 that is going to be better as well. He still hustles, hits free throws for a big, rebounds, and makes smart plays. If his strength and jumpshot consistency is all we have to worry about then we should be ecstatic for a rookie.

I still have high hopes for him, but it may not become evident until the end of the year or next season.

catch20two · Post #983 » by **catch20two** » Fri Dec 6, 2013 2:58 pm

If he's not looking horrible for a top 5 pick then he's looking whatever the term is that's a level up from horrible. He's looking bad. He's been missing point blank layups, just throwing it up at the backboard because he's scared of contact and wide open free throw jumpers that should be equivalent to arcade basketball for him as a 7-footer. We have every reason to worry about his prospects as we have hope that he'll get it together.

Radu_Hornets · Post #984 » by **Radu_Hornets** » Fri Dec 6, 2013 3:24 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I think we are being a bit too critical on Cody for only being 20 games into the season. He is not putting up great numbers, but he doesn't look horrible. His percentages are down mostly because we are asking him to shoot more jumpers than he is used to and we are not giving him enough low post/pick and roll looks.

The things that make me optimistic about Zeller still are he is a very intelligent player who has a great work ethic. His game at Indiana did not solely consist of catching the ball at the top of the key and taking jumpers and facilitating the offense. I for one am impressed with how well he is transitioning considering he is only playing 15-20 minutes a night.

He is rebounding pretty well and is hitting a good amount of outside jumpers. I think what hurts him is playing with our second unit he doesn't get as many good looks as he would with the starters. That coupled with we do not really have many great passers on our team, easy looks around the basket don't happen very often. And it is not like we run plays for him either so his shots just come at random times.

Here are some offensive highlights so far this year

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyPDVVAA_5o[/youtube]

After watching these you see that the skill set is there, but he is just not as consistent as you want him to be yet. I think confidence is an issue so far as well, once he gets that going he will hit more of those jumpers and finish more and 1's. Until then we just have to find the bright spots in his game. Also, his form on his jumper is very consistent so in a year or 2 that is going to be better as well. He still hustles, hits free throws for a big, rebounds, and makes smart plays. If his strength and jumpshot consistency is all we have to worry about then we should be ecstatic for a rookie.

I still have high hopes for him, but it may not become evident until the end of the year or next season.

I have two comments about the video:

1) When Kemba (or our other guards, but especially Kemba) will learn to feed more often the bigs as he did with Zeller at 1:10 & 2:40. We're gonna be much better !

2) 0:39 the drive from cody shows that he can almost hang in the air and keep a good balance like a guard which is not very common for a big and that's pretty good.

Snidely FC · Post #985 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Dec 6, 2013 3:28 pm

He's often on the floor with Sessions. There's a reason Session's thread is named Passing Is For Starters.

countryboi · Post #986 » by **countryboi** » Fri Dec 6, 2013 4:10 pm

Zeller could save himself alot of missed layups if he would just go up strong and dunk the damn ball. He plays basketball like he is worried he is going to offend someone

mrknowitall215 · Post #987 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Dec 6, 2013 4:27 pm

Cody Zeller is simply looking ineffective in the paint as well as everywhere else. I read a lot of complaints about the guards not getting Zeller the ball under the rim, but he's only shooting 40% at the rim, averaging a little over 3 attempts in the paint per game

To give you guys a comparison to marginalize how porous Zeller has been at scoring at the rim, as much as we criticized Bismack Biyombo's struggles to finish at the rim early in his career, he's never shot below 47% in the paint

Eoghan · Post #988 » by **Eoghan** » Fri Dec 6, 2013 5:51 pm

^liver pooty just fainted after reading that.

mrknowitall215 · Post #989 » by **mrknowitall215** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:12 am

Zeller sure needs to get bigger, stronger

I get why fans want to see the No. 4 overall pick play. But the gap in production at power forward between starter Josh McRoberts and rookie Cody Zeller is wide right now.

Zeller had five points, three rebounds and one assist, and shot 2-of-5. Also, those numbers don’t describe what in some ways is Zeller’s biggest liability: At this point he gets thrown around physically on defense like he’s filled with hay. He needs to get a lot stronger.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... onger.html

Rick Bonnell don't cut the rookie no slack

:rofl2:

Liver_Pooty · Post #990 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:26 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Zeller sure needs to get bigger, stronger

I get why fans want to see the No. 4 overall pick play. But the gap in production at power forward between starter Josh McRoberts and rookie Cody Zeller is wide right now.

Zeller had five points, three rebounds and one assist, and shot 2-of-5. Also, those numbers don’t describe what in some ways is Zeller’s biggest liability: At this point he gets thrown around physically on defense like he’s filled with hay. He needs to get a lot stronger.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... onger.html

Rick Bonnell don't cut the rookie no slack

Bonnell repeats himself every other game.

Elden Payton · Post #991 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:54 am

I'm really glad we traded that bum Kemba Walker after his rookie season.

Post #992 » by **JDR720** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:36 pm

Sik Infant wrote:I'm really glad we traded that bum Kemba Walker after his rookie season.

im glad we traded MKG also, he is locking down stars for that other team

mrknowitall215 · Post #993 » by **mrknowitall215** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:52 pm

'BrotherDave' approved

ImAustin · Post #994 » by **ImAustin** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:16 pm

has zeller stopped shooting that annoying ass jumper from 20 feet yet? missed a few games

Radu_Hornets · Post #995 » by **Radu_Hornets** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:28 pm

ImAustin wrote:has zeller stopped shooting that annoying ass jumper from 20 feet yet? missed a few games

He took only one that game I think and scored it.

Elden Payton · Post #996 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:41 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote::offtopic:

'BrotherDave' approved

This is quite clearly a foul.

Hip check with too much body and Bogut actually slapped his right hand.

Eoghan · Post #997 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:09 am

That's a clean block on Cody "Floor Burns" Zeller. Bogut got a little hands on with his offhand but there isn't hardly any body there, the hand is generally considered part of the ball and Bogut went pretty straight up.

Eoghan · Post #998 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:15 am

Sik Infant wrote:I'm really glad we traded that bum Kemba Walker after his rookie season.

Cody makes 1.3 million more than Kemba does this season, and only one million less than MKG.

We're paying $ 3,857,040 for 5 ppg, 4 rpg, and 7.9 PER. There is no way you can spin that into something positive. He's looking like a bad pick right now.

Post #999 » by **JDR720** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:20 am

BrotherDave wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:I'm really glad we traded that bum Kemba Walker after his rookie season.

Cody makes 1.3 million more than Kemba does this season, and only one million less than MKG.

We're paying $ 3,857,040 for 5 ppg, 4 rpg, and 7.9 PER. There is no way you can spin that into something positive. He's looking like a bad pick right now.

its been 21 games, and its not like any of the other picks are doing so hot besides MCW and Oladipo

Post #1000 » by **JDR720** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:21 am

BrotherDave wrote:That's a clean block on Cody "Floor Burns" Zeller. Bogut got a little hands on with his offhand but there isn't hardly any body there, the hand is generally considered part of the ball and Bogut went pretty straight up.

would've been a foul if it wasn't Cody, Sess gets breathed on he gets fouls