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Push the Detonator Already 

Post#1 » by dmutombo321 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:42 pm

To employ an analogy, I feel like the structural engineer who warns that a bridge is destined to collapse because the construction of the bridge is not sound. When the bridge inevitably fails and all the materials, preparation, and initial construction effort have gone to waste, thus setting the construction firm back years, the engineer derives no pleasure from having been prescient.

“Playing the right way” isn’t go to take you very far if you haven’t assembled ample talent through “rebuilding the right way.” I’ve been an advocate of blowing this team up and rebuilding the right way for the past two years. There were only a handful of posters who were of the same opinion

Instead of repeating myself to make my point, I’ll just relist a few of the posts I made below between September 9th and November 16th of last year when we acquired Jackson.

When I've stepped on the soap box on different occasions the past 9 months to bloviate about shortcut trades, this is exactly the sort of thing I've warned against.

If you look up bandaid trade in the dictionary you'll see pictures of >30s players like Brand and Jackson who will help teams in the shortrun, but only so far as making them less mediocre.

And in return for this slight improvement, a team relinquishes future cap flexbility for years and even worse, disqualifies themselves from possibly getting a high draft selection to select a real difference maker.

If Johnson and Browns singular goal is to make the playoffs as a #8 seed only to get swept and forfeit their draft pick , they can congratulate themselves because I think this gets the job done. But if Brown had any plans of having a team with the potential to grow and advance beyond the first round in the next half decade, I think he's just officially shot himself in the foot (he'd already blown a few toes off last year by consenting to take on Diop).


"If we were at a position to win the east and acquiring an aging veteran like Jax could have put us over the top, I’d have been gung ho. But, we’re not that team. Jackson has made us much better but the shortcut moves management has made have plateaued us into a first round caliber playoff team with no prospects of advancing any further for the next few years.

It’s the opportunity cost the short-cut route represents. For better or worse, Diaw, Jackson, Wallace and Diop represent our core for the next 3 years. Because of the money devoted to these players we have no capacity to make any significant FA acquisitions or, more importantly facilitate trades.

Also, by electing to be salary heavy and mediocre (in lieu of being salary light and bad), we miss out on the opportunities to draft the franchise type players like the Derek Roses, Tyreke Evans and Evan Turners.

As they make their playoff push this year, I’ll be pulling for them. But I recognize in the back of my head that in doing so, I’m living for the moment since, because of the shortcut moves they’ve made to taste some immediate success, they’ll be back in the lottery starting from scratch 3-4 years from now."


If this team's sole objective is playoffs or bust this year than this type of trade would do the trick.

Jackson is definitely a go-to scorer. However, it's important to remember that Jackson is turning 32 this season and will be under contract for several more years at astronomical number's until he's 35.

Personally, I would pass and opt to rebuild the right way. Yes, it will take a couple years but teams that try to take shortcuts in rebuilding can never hope to be good - only less mediocre. Just ask the Isiah Thomas run Knicks.

If Charlotte decides to throw caution to the wind with regard to their future and go for broke in their playoff quest, Jackson/Turiaf/Law for Radman/Diaw works salary wise. It'd be even nicer if we could get them to take Diop instead of Vlad but with his contract, that would likely be a deal breaker.

Felton / DJ / Law
Jackson / Hendo / Bell
Wallace / UPS / Graham
Turiaf / UPS
Chandler / Diop

This lineup could probably sneak in at a 7-8 seed but they'll be playing Boston, Orlando or Cleveland and there's no way in hell theyll be winning a series.


Good post glover. Alot of us share your sentiments. I still watch nearly every game but I'm becoming increasing distressed by the direction this franchise is going.

I was a die hard Hornets fan for their entire charlotte campaign. They were fiscally responsible and extremely well managed by their FO. There were a few seasons (one in the JL/Zo era [foiled by Jordan], one in the 54 win Rice Era [stopped by the Knicks] and one in the Mashburn era) when they had legitimate chances to make the NBA finals and actually compete for a championship. All of this, especially their potential to compete with anyone is what made them so compelling.

All of these elements are missing from the Bobcats organization. Long term, there is little to be excited about.

In my eyes, making the playoffs in and of itself isnt all that important. Context is critical: When the Hornets made the post season for the first time, the magic was palpable because it represented only the first step towards a greater goal. They had gradually and methodically been assembling young talent the previous few years and now had the potential to go deep. And they did just that, eliminating Boston and advancing to the Eastern Conference Semifinals.

Contrast that to the Cats: a poorly managed, mediocre team who, if the stars allign for them, might be lucky enough to slip into an 8th seed by default in a top heavy east, only to be embarrassed/swept by Cleveland or Orlando, consequently forfeiting their draft selection in the following year's draft to only regress further into mediocrity the following season.

The sooner they blow everything up for picks a young talent to start over, the better.



The gist of these posts was that the Bobcats are leveraging their future to become slightly better in the short-run at the expense of ever improving enough in the long run to actually have the potential to advance in the playoffs; Instead of being patient, the front office and ownership mortgaged their future for instant playoff gratification.

As predicted, they snuck into the playoffs as a low seed and got manhandled by a team with vastly superior talent. Now that they’ve played their hand, we’re stuck with a mediocre 38-45 win caliber team that has no first round picks for the next two years, no significant salary cap flexibility and no hope of ever advancing past the first round because, quite frankly, they lack the talent.

In the past couple months, they’ve hurt their future prospects even more by trading away yet another future first rounder for Tyrus Thomas, who I fear they may end up overpaying to resign for fear of losing him for nothing.

It will be much harder now than it would have been 18 months ago – when they should have started the process had they been smart – but it is not too late to make the right decision and rebuild.

In the immortal word’s of Apollo Creed’s trainer to Stallone as Apollo is getting pummeled by Drago in the exhibition bout before subsequently drying in the ring: “somebody throw in the damn towel!”
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Post#2 » by thruthefire » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:14 pm

Good post, dmutombo. Outside of trading for Chandler, we've only made moves that help us right now while under LB. Probably not the best way to go when no move we've made has put us in even remote contention for a spot in the Finals.

But why is this cast only a 38 to 45-win caliber team? 44 wins this season, and we added key players while already into the season (Jackson and Thomas) and had key players struggle (Diaw, Chandler, and Augustin). I think we're a 45 to 52-win caliber team, and if so, we should get a fourth, fifth or sixth seed and be able to get out of the first round. Rather than blowing up the team, I'd like to see the FO concentrate on upgrading the 4 and 5 spots.
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Post#3 » by christian72589 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:34 pm

Had you guys had your current team for the entire season, I believe that you would have been far better than the 7th seed. If your front office could get rid of chandler or just in some way get you a decent C, it could put you over the top.

don't stress this last series. I know what it's like to get bounced early (pistons)

P.S. you have the hottest cheerleaders so, whatever right?
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Re: Push the Detonator Already 

Post#4 » by dmutombo321 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:35 pm

thruthefire wrote:
But why is this cast only a 38 to 45-win caliber team? 44 wins this season, and we added key players while already into the season (Jackson and Thomas) and had key players struggle (Diaw, Chandler, and Augustin). I think we're a 45 to 52-win caliber team, and if so, we should get a fourth, fifth or sixth seed and be able to get out of the first round. Rather than blowing up the team, I'd like to see the FO concentrate on upgrading the 4 and 5 spots.


I just dont have as bullish an outlook.

Since we have no draft picks or meaningful cap room, we have no means by which to significantly upgrade our 4-5 spot short of trading Chandler's expiring for a veteran with a long term albatross deal another team wants to clear off its books.

Teams significantly better than us like Cleveland and Orlando will remain significantly better than us.

Meanwhile, while we sit idle since we lack the means to make any signifcant additions via draft or free agency, teams that are in the same fringe tier we are (i.e. Chicago) will have the cap space to add a max free agent. If Milwaukee retains Salmons and gets Bogut back healthy, they're a better squad then we are as they proved steamrolling all comers after the allstar break. And then you have teams like NY who could easily add 15-20 wins with the cap space to add two max free agents.

Stephen Jackson, while still a great player/competitor and contributor, is past his prime and will be another year older into his 30s. And we have him under contract at increasingly expensive figures for the next 3 seasons.

I just see a dark cloud on the horizon and think that duplicating another 44 win season will be difficult.

I know I'm coming accross as cynical but i'm just calling a spade a spade.

Rebuilding responsibly a la the present Thunder and the 1990s Hornets is the way to go. Unless you have a chance to become an instant title contender (the 08' Celtics), teams that go for broke to marginally upgrade talent almost always ends up squandering future draft picks, handcuffing themselves financially and wallowing in mediocrity for years.
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Post#5 » by BigSlam » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:08 pm

Thought you would enjoy this doom and gloom dmutombo321!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba,237041
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Post#6 » by GQCoolest » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:17 pm

BigSlam wrote:Thought you would enjoy this doom and gloom dmutombo321!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba,237041


Read that earlier. Such a depressing outlook for the Cats before I saw that dwyer wrote it. Dude is bitter because he predicted us to win 19 games this year and we proved him pretty damn wrong. While I don't have the rosiest of outlooks, it's gonna be way more positive that than.
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Post#7 » by Bassman » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:43 am

Well count me into the DMutumbo camp (as he and I are typically in sync on this team). I really don't think we're being negative...just placing reality above being a fan. Your observations (among mine and others) have proven to be prophetic.

I don't think we have to blow up the entire team, but there are some key players we need to trade while we can (or if we can). I think Jackson will bring more in a trade this off-season than at any other time in the future. Diaw is just not a good player and needs to be 6th man. Both players could be sought after by near-championship teams who want one more key piece to get over the top. We need a strong PF to establish a post game plus rebound with the big boys. We also need a SG who is especially accomplished at that trade (shooting). Then we play our young guys so they get experience, resist trading an expiring contract unless the value back is really good, and allow the chips to fall where they may next season. After that we get cap space, probably return to the lottery for a quality draft pick, maybe sign a quality free agent, and go back to work the following season as a playoff contender again.
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Post#8 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:17 am

The Bobcats franchise absolutely could not stand to rebuild when you guys were suggesting it earlier this season. We had an owner that locals hated, had made awful draft decisions, a question mark at gm, a fanbase of die hards and an arena that was only likely to sell out if Celtics/Lebron/Kobe/Wade fans came in to back the house. Bass specifically I remember refused to buy league pass at the beginning of the season because of how bad the product was or was projected to be... but had no problem making empty suggestions as to what we should do to make the team immediately worse for the chance to one day get better (example: Let's trade Diaw and Jackson to near-championship teams for a strong PF to establish a post game plus rebound with the big boys AND a SG who is especially accomplished at shooting, but let's avoid adding young players or expiring contracts).

Here's what I'll say about rebuilding... now is a great opportunity. This is the best chance we're going to get in the foreseeable future, but I will defend until my modship is revoked that it was an inconceivable option until very recently. What has changed:

-Bobcats are on TV in the Carolinas
-Everybody loves MJ
-LB uncertainty
-Felton UFA
-Sell Out Playoffs to build on
-Playoff Birth
-Playoff sweep

Probably a couple of other things I could think of if I put in a little more time. Here's my expanded thoughts: MJ gets a clean slate to put his mark on the team, he's at the game, he's hyped up about the games. If LB leaves, he gets a pass for a season or two to find the new guy or work through growing pains, may as well bring in some talent to work around. If LB stays, have him commit as long term as he can to teaching the kids, not settling for immediate gratification. See what DJ is capable of as a starter since LB made that call and bring in a couple of cheap, young pg options. Dump guys for draft picks and commit to scouting guys that we believe in long term that are super talented and not just guys that "play the right way".

THIS PART IS CRITICAL: The team doesn't have to win all the time, but THEY MUST BE WATCHABLE. This is a definite flaw of the current team and it's a big thing my friends and I discuss and it's something I've complained about for years. We play an ugly style of basketball because we have to. Additionally, unless you have an illogical/emotional draw to one of our players (outside of Crash) there aren't many guys you could make a great case for if you're trying to tell someone on your favorite player and why they should like them.


So, in summation. Let's do it. This team can maybe get a little better, but I think it's a unique opportunity to reboot under MJ, so we probably ought to take advantage of all of the uncertainty.
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Post#9 » by fatlever » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:19 am

kelly dwyer, man that was brutal.... but very true. and you know why dwyer is an awesome dude? ... because he's a steely dan nut, thats why. and he's an old school rgm guy.

d123... you are right. its not that anyone really disagreed, i just think that many of us knew this was coming the day we signed lb and we were ok with the short-term goal of the playoffs knowing it would generate the buzz the team needed in charlotte.

but, IF larry sticks around, higgins has to put his foot down and say NO MORE short-sighted deals. time to get a little younger, give some minutes to dj, lexy and hendo, and start deciding what to do with 20 mil in expiring deals.
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Post#10 » by fatlever » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:23 am

walt makes a good point..."making the team more watchable". it really is ugly some nights. i swear there were a few games this season were i almost fell asleep in my seats. i hate watching bad offense. i know defense helps us win and i love our defense, but for the love of god, can we get a few scorers on the team.
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Post#11 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:37 am

I know there were times last year and during the even earlier stream days where I literally fell asleep at my laptop. Please give us someone fun to watch. Incredible at offense, defense, being strong, being dumb, whatever. Just make it entertaining.
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Post#12 » by Paydro70 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:21 am

I completely concur with Walt. As a fan, who wants the championship to be the only goal, I obviously understand the urge to blow up the team and start over. I was in that boat for a while myself.

But the reality is that Charlotte is not so secure a franchise that we can simply ignore immediate financial concerns... and the Bobcats really needed to make the playoffs this year to demonstrate that they are a serious and permanent franchise. There is also the long-standing argument that in order to make it into the category even of "I'll consider their max contract offer," we need to show we are not a terribly-run, lionsesque franchise, which we would probably fairly deserve if we had blown up the team this offseason.

The bottom line is, the money matters, and making the playoffs at the cost of possible title success is the right move if you care about having a team 5 years from now.
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Post#13 » by Battery » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:11 am

Paydro70 wrote:I completely concur with Walt. As a fan, who wants the championship to be the only goal, I obviously understand the urge to blow up the team and start over. I was in that boat for a while myself.

But the reality is that Charlotte is not so secure a franchise that we can simply ignore immediate financial concerns... and the Bobcats really needed to make the playoffs this year to demonstrate that they are a serious and permanent franchise. There is also the long-standing argument that in order to make it into the category even of "I'll consider their max contract offer," we need to show we are not a terribly-run, lionsesque franchise, which we would probably fairly deserve if we had blown up the team this offseason.

The bottom line is, the money matters, and making the playoffs at the cost of possible title success is the right move if you care about having a team 5 years from now.



Well said, Paydro. Completely agree. We did what we had to do in order to make the playoffs this season.

Now begins a completely new season and if Larry leaves I am all for blowing this team up.
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Post#14 » by Rich4114 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:36 am

I can't disagree with anything here and just touching on what Walt mentioned, we HAD to do those things (though short sighted) to make the playoffs and give the Bobcats their own identity separate from the Hornets. I don't think that happened until this team made the playoffs and people got on the bandwagon.

But now, you have to think to yourself "can THIS team win a championship" and the answer is definitely no. In today's NBA with zone defenses and stuff, offense beats defense. Defense will keep you in games, offense will win you the NBA championship - that's how it's evolved and designed.

Now, we have to cut our losses, be patient, and either rebuild through the draft or wait for an opportunity in case a guy like CP3 somehow becomes available.

The most frustrating thing of all though, has to be the few moves which really set this franchise back possibly a decade.

Not trading #5 and #13 for #3, caving in on the Matt Caroll deal which led to the Diop trade, and Adam Morrison.

Even if one of those 3 things go differently for us and we're not in the predicament we are today.

Oh well, it is what it is. But things can change quickly in this league and you never know when it might bounce our way.
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Post#15 » by Jaruff » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:24 am

I was a die hard Hornets fan for their entire charlotte campaign. They were fiscally responsible and extremely well managed by their FO. There were a few seasons (one in the JL/Zo era [foiled by Jordan], one in the 54 win Rice Era [stopped by the Knicks] and one in the Mashburn era) when they had legitimate chances to make the NBA finals and actually compete for a championship. All of this, especially their potential to compete with anyone is what made them so compelling.


This is what I'm talking about. The Hornets never signed premiere free agents. They drafted well and made responsible trades, even when it involved star-caliber players. Each time, they improved. Trading Mourning for Rice, Rice for Campbell and Jones, and then Jones and Anthony Mason for Mashburn and PJ Brown. They also traded draft picks when it made sense, such as when Kobe was traded for Vlade Divac.

The Bobcats haven't done this. I will give them credit for dealing Brandon Wright for Jason Richardson, but beyond that, I don't see a trade that has been benefited the team in the long run.

@Rich - I agree that the playoffs injected some spirit into team, but at what price? Those extra fans are nice, but as soon as the team puts together another streak of 30-35 win seasons, most of them will quit watching. Even when the Hornets were bad, they usually had entertaining players to keep the fans happy. This team has one entertaining player: Gerald Wallace.
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Post#16 » by BigSlam » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:44 pm

Battery wrote:Now begins a completely new season and if Larry leaves I am all for blowing this team up.

I think you make a good point here Battery - and it's key.

IMO it's pointless to under take any sort of "blowup and rebuild" while Larry is here. We've already done that over the past 12 months and look where it got us. It cost us draft picks, cap flexibility and longevity. Or roster is now old, over paid and built just the way Larry likes it.

I can't see any secondary blow up and rebuild going any other way. It's the way Larry has done it time and time again. Larry has too much influence over MJ and Higgins etc to make a radical and clean start.

That being the case, I would just leave the roster as is, play the kids (DJ, Hendo, UPS, T2, Lexy) a LOT next season, allow Larry to bow out at the end of next season, bring in a new coach as soon as the season ends then attack the summer of 2011 with the 20 mil or so of cap space and start fresh then.

I'm not sure I see the point of doing it now with Larry still here.
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Post#17 » by GQCoolest » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:54 pm

The last thing we can afford to do is fizzle out the way the Pistons have done. Granted they have handed out some horrible contracts and made unwise signings (Gordon, Villanueva, Hamilton, to a lesser extent Maxiell). But they have tried to perservere with an aging Larry Brown built lineup without Larry Brown.

There is nothing worse than keeping an aging core knowing that the best you will do is 47 wins, the 6 seed, and a second round exit if you're lucky.
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Post#18 » by Battery » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:12 pm

BigSlam wrote:
Battery wrote:Now begins a completely new season and if Larry leaves I am all for blowing this team up.

I think you make a good point here Battery - and it's key.

IMO it's pointless to under take any sort of "blowup and rebuild" while Larry is here. We've already done that over the past 12 months and look where it got us. It cost us draft picks, cap flexibility and longevity. Or roster is now old, over paid and built just the way Larry likes it.

I can't see any secondary blow up and rebuild going any other way. It's the way Larry has done it time and time again. Larry has too much influence over MJ and Higgins etc to make a radical and clean start.

That being the case, I would just leave the roster as is, play the kids (DJ, Hendo, UPS, T2, Lexy) a LOT next season, allow Larry to bow out at the end of next season, bring in a new coach as soon as the season ends then attack the summer of 2011 with the 20 mil or so of cap space and start fresh then.

I'm not sure I see the point of doing it now with Larry still here.


However, I am now leaning towards pushing LB out the door. Hated the way the playoffs ended and, with this present cast of characters, it's doubtful this team goes very far. We need upgrades at PG and PF and a good shooter off the bench. Otherwise just blow it up and trade away Jax and Crash while they still have good value.
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Post#19 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:15 pm

Jaruff wrote:This is what I'm talking about. The Hornets never signed premiere free agents. They drafted well and made responsible trades, even when it involved star-caliber players. Each time, they improved. Trading Mourning for Rice, Rice for Campbell and Jones, and then Jones and Anthony Mason for Mashburn and PJ Brown. They also traded draft picks when it made sense, such as when Kobe was traded for Vlade Divac.

The Bobcats haven't done this. I will give them credit for dealing Brandon Wright for Jason Richardson, but beyond that, I don't see a trade that has been benefited the team in the long run.


J-Rich/Dudley/2nd for Diaw/Stephen Jackson?

[/quote]@Rich - I agree that the playoffs injected some spirit into team, but at what price? Those extra fans are nice, but as soon as the team puts together another streak of 30-35 win seasons, most of them will quit watching. Even when the Hornets were bad, they usually had entertaining players to keep the fans happy. This team has one entertaining player: Gerald Wallace.[/quote]

I know this isn't to me, but, this was kinda my point in my long post in this thread... we do have the opportunity to rebuild the right way but it's BECAUSE of this exposure to the casual fan. The FO must reduce ticket prices and still put a team on the floor that is fun to watch, but if you do that you can be successful with reduced wins.

We absolutely had to make the playoffs at almost any cost. The Diop contract hurts, but we can dump most of the other ones for something.
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Post#20 » by dmutombo321 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:30 pm

Walt Cronkite wrote:
Here's what I'll say about rebuilding... now is a great opportunity. This is the best chance we're going to get in the foreseeable future, but I will defend until my modship is revoked that it was an inconceivable option until very recently. What has changed:

-Bobcats are on TV in the Carolinas
-Everybody loves MJ
-LB uncertainty
-Felton UFA
-Sell Out Playoffs to build on
-Playoff Birth
-Playoff sweep




Making the playoffs was a good thing but a lot of the fan interest the berth initially generated was dramatically tempered by their embarassingly lopsided defeats at the hands of a vastly better team. Although I recognized that it was highly unlikely, I was really hoping that they could achieve at least one home win to send the new fans home happy.

I was talking with some casual fairweather fans from the office who attended their first Bobcats game during the Orlando series. Not knowing much about the team, they remarked how they were clearly out of their league against Orlando but that with a high draft pick and a big name free agent addition, they may be able to make some headway next year. I just let the conversation end there since I didnt want to explain that the team they saw is more or less the exact same roster they'll probably see next year.

As Jaruff pointed out, "the playoffs injected some spirit into team, but at what price? Those extra fans are nice, but as soon as the team puts together another streak of 30-35 win seasons, most of them will quit watching."

Yes, fan support would have deteriorated further in the interim but, I would have much rather postponed the playoff birth a year or two and debuted in the post season with a young/talented roster led by an emerging star like Evan Turner that had legitimate chance to advance and build on the experience the following season by returning to the playoffs and going even deeper.

But, the past is the past and its what they do from here on forward that matters.

Walt Cronkite wrote:
Probably a couple of other things I could think of if I put in a little more time. Here's my expanded thoughts: MJ gets a clean slate to put his mark on the team, he's at the game, he's hyped up about the games. If LB leaves, he gets a pass for a season or two to find the new guy or work through growing pains, may as well bring in some talent to work around. If LB stays, have him commit as long term as he can to teaching the kids, not settling for immediate gratification. See what DJ is capable of as a starter since LB made that call and bring in a couple of cheap, young pg options. Dump guys for draft picks and commit to scouting guys that we believe in long term that are super talented and not just guys that "play the right way".


So, in summation. Let's do it. This team can maybe get a little better, but I think it's a unique opportunity to reboot under MJ, so we probably ought to take advantage of all of the uncertainty.


I'm pretty much in total agreement with your blueprint, particularly the final sentence in your first paragraph.

I fear that given his competitive nature and the financial implications involved with a requisite losing season or two, MJ may not have the stomach veer from the "win now at the expense of the future" track to rebuild the team responsibly. But, if the FO does see the light and decide to do the right thing, they MUST, as several people have aluded, keep the decision making shackles on LB.

As I've said many times before, I love LB as a coach but have zero confidence in him at all as a talent evaluator. When LB makes decision, you get solid back-up caliber players like DJ taken over 19-9 guys like lopez and you get expensive, cap killing project players like Diop. Let Higgens craft the roster and have Brown -if he stays- limit his duty to coaching and teaching the young talent.

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