Predict the Bobcat that will have a breakout season?
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Predict the Bobcat that will have a breakout season?
My guess will be Tyrus Thomas... DJ Augustin will also show that he can be a starter in this league (if we don't get CP3(or bust) ) and I think Henderson will show that he will be our SG of the future.... But I think the young player that will break out this season will be TT, hes gonna show hes well worth his contract... Who do yall think will hit their stride this season?
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i hate to be such a negative person on this one, but i would be shocked to see any of our players "breakout". crash is really the only player in bobcats history who has improved greatly while playing as a bobcat. none of our draft picks have ever really had a leap from one year to the next.
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Stun that is a great question and a difficult one at that. But right now TT is the only that is pretty much guaranteed to be with us this season. DJ is a lost cause so forget him. Henderson we really don't know what his deal is yet so if he is here and makes the rotation, then that is a positive first step.
TT, I'm not sold on him right now. I never would have made a 5 year commitment to him at this stage in his career, but understand why we did. He is an asset and has trade value so if he doesn't have a "breakout" season he can still be moved because he is young and athletic. I am praying LB can work some magic with him and as of now TT has said and done all the right things in preparation for this season. He wants to be here and most importantly he wants to be coached. So I will say he will have a "breakout" season because I trust LB. And it's time the basketball Gods show us some love. We've suffered enough!

TT, I'm not sold on him right now. I never would have made a 5 year commitment to him at this stage in his career, but understand why we did. He is an asset and has trade value so if he doesn't have a "breakout" season he can still be moved because he is young and athletic. I am praying LB can work some magic with him and as of now TT has said and done all the right things in preparation for this season. He wants to be here and most importantly he wants to be coached. So I will say he will have a "breakout" season because I trust LB. And it's time the basketball Gods show us some love. We've suffered enough!

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My God he looks so depressed. The uniform looks nice though.
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if dj can return to his rookie season form, would that be considered a "breakout"? 

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fatlever wrote:if dj can return to his rookie season form, would that be considered a "breakout"?
It's pretty sad that Shaun Livingston is probably ahead of him on the depth chart right now. Hopefully Livingstons passion is contagious and rubs off on him because DJ was a freaking horror show last season. He did not show up to training camp ready to play. With all of the money he stands to gain in the future, you would think he would have at the very least showed up in shape. Some people just do not realize how lucky they are. If I owned the Bobcats I would have shipped his ass out before last season began. Boris too, that fat blimp.
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I think Tyrus knowing his role, being developed by LB, and getting 30 plus minutes a game should do wonders to his game. I expect about 17 ppg 10 rebounds and 2 blocks per. Livingston may be a good choice too if he stays healthy and can play solid defense. I do expect Livingston to take DJ's job as a starter or the backup pg.
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Is Livingston DJ's BK to Felton's Knight???? (rubbing hands together)
How long until there's 21321369187 DJ threads with everyone bashing DJ while Slam and Walt blindly defend him? lol
How long until there's 21321369187 DJ threads with everyone bashing DJ while Slam and Walt blindly defend him? lol
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btw to answer the question, I don't think anyone will really break-out. I think we may see Henderson get regular playing time and improve but my definition of break-out is a significant improvement and one of the leaders on the team in terms of scoring/assists/rebounding, etc.
We will continue to be lowest in the league in scoring and pace, we will be good defensively but not as good last season with our PG downgrade, and we will likely not make the playoffs with the roster as is since every other team in our area improved. Not to be a debbie downer, but I'm just trying to be realistic.
Still lots of time left between now and October to make something happen, but maybe it's not such a bad thing for us to try and have one more shot at the lottery.
We will continue to be lowest in the league in scoring and pace, we will be good defensively but not as good last season with our PG downgrade, and we will likely not make the playoffs with the roster as is since every other team in our area improved. Not to be a debbie downer, but I'm just trying to be realistic.
Still lots of time left between now and October to make something happen, but maybe it's not such a bad thing for us to try and have one more shot at the lottery.
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I still blame DJ for losing game 4 in the playoffs. He absolutley shot us out of the game when we had the momentum. Even Kevin Mchale commented on his quick shooting, it was bad, and not the good bad either. Ever since I saw DJ get destroyed by Rose in the NCAA tourney I been off the bandwagon. His problem is he's just too small. And he doesn't do any one thing well enough to say he can be a starter in this league.
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I do think DJ looks worse than he is. I think in LB's system you either handle it or you don't. He appears to be the latter. I remember at the beginning of last season when both of our PG's looked horrible. Felton was quickly able to turn it around and work within LB's system and he ends up with his most efficient year ever. DJ, it just didn't happen. Maybe he can turn it around this season, but I think he'd look much better for a different coach than he does for us.
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Rich4114 wrote:How long until there's 21321369187 DJ threads with everyone bashing DJ while Slam and Walt blindly defend him? lol
I figure I have about three more years of making up excuses like him being played out of position, having to play under different coaches, not being able to play up tempo, playing under the hardest coach when it comes to PG's, him not being Derrick Rose so stop comparing him to Derrick Rose and him having to shoulder the load for the entire team before I'll have to cut the cord.
if dj can return to his rookie season form, would that be considered a "breakout"?
If he can pick it up from there, continue to build on what he was doing over the final dozen games or so of the last regular season and pretty much every time he has started as a Bobcat in the past two years then I will be ok.
He still has a LOAD of things to work on though, nothing that shouldn't be too hard to fix.
I do agree with everyone else though - I don't see any Bobcat making a play for MiP this season. I think there will just be incremental improvements with some.
Maybe the question shouldn't be: who will be the Bobcat that will have a breakout season?
Maybe it should be: which of the current Bobcats roster have almost reached or have already maxed out their potential?
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Breakout: Livingston.
Maxed Potential: Most of the roster, especially DJ and Henderson.
Possible Most Improved Player: Carroll.
Makes me wish we would talk Brevin Knight into doing another stint here.
Maxed Potential: Most of the roster, especially DJ and Henderson.
Possible Most Improved Player: Carroll.
Makes me wish we would talk Brevin Knight into doing another stint here.
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Jaruff wrote:Breakout: Livingston.
Maxed Potential: Most of the roster, especially DJ and Henderson.
Possible Most Improved Player: Carroll.
Makes me wish we would talk Brevin Knight into doing another stint here.

To all of what you just posted excluding the Livingston part.
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Livingston will suprise many folks. He's my breakout choice too.
My picks:
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
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Carroll's an obvious choice for MIP. Last year, he played 25 games, 5mpg, and averaged a hair under 2ppg. Unless we sign Hughes, Murray, or someone else, he will get minutes this season. I'm sure DJ will pick up a lot of backup SG minutes but if he struggles, Carroll will be there.
Carroll playing for this team in 15-20mpg can put up the stats to be considered for the award. That's what the voters look for. Another player I would throw in there is McGuire IF Crash gets hurt.
I'm just not that high on DJ or Henderson. IMO, DJ's an undersized SG trying to play point. Henderson could be good, but he's never going to develop with Jax here.
Carroll playing for this team in 15-20mpg can put up the stats to be considered for the award. That's what the voters look for. Another player I would throw in there is McGuire IF Crash gets hurt.
I'm just not that high on DJ or Henderson. IMO, DJ's an undersized SG trying to play point. Henderson could be good, but he's never going to develop with Jax here.
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Jaruff wrote:Carroll's an obvious choice for MIP. Last year, he played 25 games, 5mpg, and averaged a hair under 2ppg. Unless we sign Hughes, Murray, or someone else, he will get minutes this season. I'm sure DJ will pick up a lot of backup SG minutes but if he struggles, Carroll will be there.
Carroll playing for this team in 15-20mpg can put up the stats to be considered for the award. That's what the voters look for. Another player I would throw in there is McGuire IF Crash gets hurt.
I'm just not that high on DJ or Henderson. IMO, DJ's an undersized SG trying to play point. Henderson could be good, but he's never going to develop with Jax here.
It's posts like these that make me believe you just started watching the NBA this summer. Matt Carroll as MIP??? Carroll playing 15-20 mpg???
If Matt Carroll is playing 15-20 mpg then we are a top 5 lottery team.
Seriously....Matt Carroll?



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I'm telling you, don't be surprised if Carroll puts up 15-20mpg this year. Unless we sign someone else, who's going to be the backup 2? Hendo? Hah. Carroll will get his share of minutes this year. I will promptly stand corrected if he doesn't.
Now that's a bit of an overstatement. When Carroll is getting his minutes, he contributes. Is he great? No. Is he an average role player that fills a need? Yes. Even if Carroll started, we would not be a Top 5 lottery team.
If Matt Carroll is playing 15-20 mpg then we are a top 5 lottery team.
Now that's a bit of an overstatement. When Carroll is getting his minutes, he contributes. Is he great? No. Is he an average role player that fills a need? Yes. Even if Carroll started, we would not be a Top 5 lottery team.
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If Carroll gets more PT then Hendo this year then we need to forfeit out draft rights for the rest of our time as an NBA Franchise.

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