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Still, McGuire brings many similar skills to the court. Brown said McGuire can be the Bobcats' best on-ball defender, guarding three or four positions, and he's the team's best rebounder behind Wallace.

-- The hating on Dominic McGuire would be funny if it wasn’t so misguided and mean. Of course he isn’t a shooter, and probably takes too many shots. But does anyone understand how hard it is to grab 17 rebounds in an NBA game?

I keep reading comments that he’s stealing minutes from Tyrus Thomas and that Thomas is so dramatically better a shooter. McGuire played 40 minutes Friday because Gerald Wallace is out, Jackson missed the second quarter and Gerald Henderson was limited by more pain in his left knee.

As to Thomas’ shooting, did anyone notice Thomas was 2-of-9 Friday? I love Thomas’ potential, but his flaws (rash decision-making/too excitable/quick to foul) get dismissed as if they don’t exist.

I’m not a McGuire apologist. I’m saying judge everyone by comparable standards. When Thomas or Derrick Brown or Gerald Henderson screw up, it's youth in a learning experience. When McGuire does something poorly, it's a career-defining indictment. You'd think McGuire is 35, jumping on one leg, and desperate to get one more paycheck. Sheesh.

fatlever wrote:its nice to have utility player like mcguire on the bench...........

Battery wrote:I gave McGuire a silver hammer........

Battery wrote:I gave McGuire a silver hammer for performing his role well on Saturday. Some people think it's all about scoring.

fatlever wrote:anytime you are playing 4 on 5 on offense due to one player being a nightmare on offense, some of the other 4 players better be great on offense to make up for it. sadly, we exactly 0 great offensive players. playing mcguire 40 minutes, isnt too far away from playing diop 40 minutes. even if diop was as good a rebounder as mcguire (its sad that he's not - and the are both decent defenders) you still could never get away with playing him 40 minutes due to the giant black hole he creates on offense.

fatlever wrote:anytime you are playing 4 on 5 on offense due to one player being a nightmare on offense, some of the other 4 players better be great on offense to make up for it. sadly, we exactly 0 great offensive players. playing mcguire 40 minutes, isnt too far away from playing diop 40 minutes. even if diop was as good a rebounder as mcguire (its sad that he's not - and the are both decent defenders) you still could never get away with playing him 40 minutes due to the giant black hole he creates on offense.

captaincrunk wrote:

fatlever wrote:anytime you are playing 4 on 5 on offense due to one player being a nightmare on offense, some of the other 4 players better be great on offense to make up for it. sadly, we exactly 0 great offensive players. playing mcguire 40 minutes, isnt too far away from playing diop 40 minutes. even if diop was as good a rebounder as mcguire (its sad that he's not - and the are both decent defenders) you still could never get away with playing him 40 minutes due to the giant black hole he creates on offense.

Exactly. That's why guys like ron artest get playing time despite not scoring much with his minutes this season (though his minutes are down too). They don't really need him on offense. We couldn't score if it was 7 on five when we were on offense

Battery wrote:

fatlever wrote:anytime you are playing 4 on 5 on offense due to one player being a nightmare on offense, some of the other 4 players better be great on offense to make up for it. sadly, we exactly 0 great offensive players. playing mcguire 40 minutes, isnt too far away from playing diop 40 minutes. even if diop was as good a rebounder as mcguire (its sad that he's not - and the are both decent defenders) you still could never get away with playing him 40 minutes due to the giant black hole he creates on offense.

But McGuire only played 40 minutes on Saturday because of matchups and Crash being out. Not only that we were in this game down 3 with 1:38 left so you can make the case it was our defense AND energy on that end which kept us in the game. S-Jax shot 3-14 and DJ was 1-7 from 3. If those two make just one or two more shots we could have won or gone into OT. McGuire at least scored 4 points in the final minute while everyone else did nothing except for a meaningless basket by DJ with 10 seconds left when the game was already decided.

And this was against a good team on their home court, lets not forget that. We could have easily been blown out, but we fought back because we played good defense in this game.

Battery wrote:

fatlever wrote:anytime you are playing 4 on 5 on offense due to one player being a nightmare on offense, some of the other 4 players better be great on offense to make up for it. sadly, we exactly 0 great offensive players. playing mcguire 40 minutes, isnt too far away from playing diop 40 minutes. even if diop was as good a rebounder as mcguire (its sad that he's not - and the are both decent defenders) you still could never get away with playing him 40 minutes due to the giant black hole he creates on offense.

But McGuire only played 40 minutes on Saturday because of matchups and Crash being out. Not only that we were in this game down 3 with 1:38 left so you can make the case it was our defense AND energy on that end which kept us in the game. S-Jax shot 3-14 and DJ was 1-7 from 3. If those two make just one or two more shots we could have won or gone into OT. McGuire at least scored 4 points in the final minute while everyone else did nothing except for a meaningless basket by DJ with 10 seconds left when the game was already decided.

And this was against a good team on their home court, lets not forget that. We could have easily been blown out, but we fought back because we played good defense in this game.

Stun704 wrote:Can anyone tell me how a player can score 0 points in 21 Minutes and still be in the starting line up?