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Post #1 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 12:33 pm

Even the Blazers are more healthy than us at the moment. The Blazers!!

Makes this one a tough one.

The good news is that Wallace isn`t at risk of being injured this game because when the Blazers play him at PF (like they do) he will only have to play against a cream puff of a PF in Boris Diaw.

bobcats3wallace · Post #2 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 2:16 pm

We absoultely NEED Hendo to pick it up this game. He has to get back on his scoring pace that he was on prior to the trade. We need him close to 15 points, and more importantly we NEED Jack at 20 or more. DJ finally had a good game last night, hopefully that carries over. I expect another decent game from Pryz, and hopefully DJ White gets more minutes. He certainly deserves them. He looks like a solid young prospect that could be a very good future back-up at the 4. Get the kid more minutes, he is more productive than Diaw!

It's not a must win and I don't really expect a win, but a win here would go a long ways. Were still only a game out of the 8th seed. We just need consistency from Jack, Hendo, and DJ. Turns out that one of our most consistent players is Liv. Lately you can count on him getting close to 10 points off the bench. We need that consistancy from our other 3.

Going to be a wierd game with Wallace going against us. Not as wierd as back home, but still wierd. Is Jack supposed to play tonight? If not, i'm calling for a big game from Temple;) haha

EDIT* Just saw that Jack is out for a while...so I guess you can scratch everything I said. haha. This is going to be an ugly finish to the season.

bobcats3wallace · Post #3 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 3:36 pm

I guess the question should be asked, what is worth watching witht his team anymore? We no longer run the floor like we used to. Were not scoring like we used to. I mean heck, were right back at the level we were with LB. All that Silas hub has worn off and were suddenly no different than we were before. This is no slight to Sils because he obviously has leess talent then LB did, but the style of play is just unwatchable. We just cannot score. You look at this team and honestly the best we can hope for is for there NOT to be a blow out. What is there to look forward to? Good games from DJ White? The return of Thomas? Hendo playing good? (That would had been my answer, but even that has worn off). I'll keep watching these guys, but in a matter of a week i've gone from excited for there games to here comes another loss can we at least keep it from a blow out.

captaincrunk · Post #4 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 4:28 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:I guess the question should be asked, what is worth watching witht his team anymore? We no longer run the floor like we used to. Were not scoring like we used to. I mean heck, were right back at the level we were with LB. All that Silas hub has worn off and were suddenly no different than we were before. This is no slight to Sils because he obviously has leess talent then LB did, but the style of play is just unwatchable. We just cannot score. You look at this team and honestly the best we can hope for is for there NOT to be a blow out. What is there to look forward to? Good games from DJ White? The return of Thomas? Hendo playing good? (That would had been my answer, but even that has worn off). I'll keep watching these guys, but in a matter of a week i've gone from excited for there games to here comes another loss can we at least keep it from a blow out.

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ohara · Post #5 » by **ohara** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 5:08 pm

Dj..Hendo...Tiger blood...winning.

W_HAMILTON · Post #6 » by **W_HAMILTON** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 5:56 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:I guess the question should be asked, what is worth watching witht his team anymore? We no longer run the floor like we used to. Were not scoring like we used to.

Uh, weren't you one of the biggest supporters of that trade? What did you expect? Of course this was going to be the result.

I mean heck, were right back at the level we were with LB. All that Silas hub has worn off and were suddenly no different than we were before.

It has nothing to do with Silas. There's only so much you can do with Joel Przybilla and Dominic McGuire. This team has very little talent. With no Jackson and no Thomas, we are sporting arguably the least talented lineup in franchise history. We've essentially lost three starters for nothing now (four if you count Jackson's injury). No coach can overcome that.

bobcats3wallace · Post #7 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 6:40 pm

I was and still am a supporter of the trade. It was a necessary move, but doesn't mean that this current team is worth watching. I supported that trade because of the future.

As far as the style of play. It really hasn't been the same for about a month now. It wasn't the same when Wallace was here. That first couple weeks of Silas the play was fantastic, but after that it had slowly gone back closer and closer to the LB style. Plus if you kept reading my comments, I pointed out that it was not Silas because he obvously had less talent. Gotta keep reading man, can't just pick out and criticise one part out of context and leave out the next that completely agrees with what your saying.

I do agree, this is probably one of the worst roster in franchise history. However it had to be done. We needed to blow this thing up if we wanted any hope of being more than an 8th seed in the future. It still doesn't mean the sting of loosing and being terrible to watch is any less. I also think that we can play better than we are. DJ and Hendo are capable of scoring, they just havn't been (until DJ las tnight).

Battery · Post #8 » by **Battery** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 6:43 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:I guess the question should be asked, what is worth watching witht his team anymore? We no longer run the floor like we used to. Were not scoring like we used to. I mean heck, were right back at the level we were with LB. All that Silas hub has worn off and were suddenly no different than we were before. This is no slight to Sils because he obviously has leess talent then LB did, but the style of play is just unwatchable. We just cannot score. You look at this team and honestly the best we can hope for is for there NOT to be a blow out. What is there to look forward to? Good games from DJ White? The return of Thomas? Hendo playing good? (That would had been my answer, but even that has worn off). I'll keep watching these guys, but in a matter of a week i've gone from excited for there games to here comes another loss can we at least keep it from a blow out.

You should have paid more attention to the schedule. Sell high. One month to late, MJ ended up crushing your dreams. Such a tease for you youngin's.

W_HAMILTON · Post #9 » by **W_HAMILTON** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 7:59 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:As far as the style of play. It really hasn't been the same for about a month now. It wasn't the same when Wallace was here. That first couple weeks of Silas the play was fantastic, but after that it had slowly gone back closer and closer to the LB style. Plus if you kept reading my comments, I pointed out that it was not Silas because he obvously had less talent. Gotta keep reading man, can't just pick out and criticise one part out of context and leave out the next that completely agrees with what your saying.

I did read it all. The main difference is the talent. The second difference is what Battery points out (but for all the wrong reasons). We were scoring 100+ after Silas took over, but that was against bad teams like WAS and CLE and MIN and against up-tempo teams like PHO and GSW. Pre-trade, our scoring might have been down a bit, but that was because we were playing better teams. Where Battery is wrong is that even though our schedule got tougher, we were still keeping up a .500+ pace, with wins against teams like BOS, ATL, LAL, etc.

We shouldn't have blown that team up. But we did, and this is unappealing brand of basketball is now the result. The pre-trade team might not have been scoring as much, but they would have pulled out some of these wins against better teams. The post-trade team just doesn't have the talent to play exciting basketball or win much against these winning teams.

doc.end · Post #10 » by **doc.end** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 8:23 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:I was and still am a supporter of the trade. It was a necessary move, but doesn't mean that this current team is worth watching. I supported that trade because of the future.

That. If only trade deadline and draft lottery/draft could be like month from each other.

Post #11 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 9:52 pm

W_HAMILTON wrote:The post-trade team just doesn't have the talent to play exciting basketball or win much against these winning teams.

I'm not so sure about that?

DJ can be pretty exciting. Hendo can be pretty exciting. Tyrus can be pretty exciting.

Battery · Post #12 » by **Battery** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 10:12 pm

W_HAMILTON wrote:[Where Battery is wrong is that even though our schedule got tougher, we were still keeping up a .500+ pace, with wins against teams like BOS, ATL, LAL, etc.

To the untrained eye that might be the case. Boston and LA had both come off tough battles the night before against Orlando while we were sitting at home resting. The Atlanta win was a great comeback with an exciting finish so I'll give you that one even though the Hawks choked it away all game long. Fools gold strikes once again.

Jaruff · Post #13 » by **Jaruff** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 11:02 pm

Battery wrote:
W_HAMILTON wrote:[Where Battery is wrong is that even though our schedule got tougher, we were still keeping up a .500+ pace, with wins against teams like BOS, ATL, LAL, etc.

To the untrained eye that might be the case. Boston and LA had both come off tough battles the night before against Orlando while we were sitting at home resting. The Atlanta win was a great comeback with an exciting finish so I'll give you that one even though the Hawks choked it away all game long. Fools gold strikes once again.

C'mon man, have a little hope and change.

bobcats3wallace · Post #14 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Sat Mar 5, 2011 11:04 pm

BigSlam wrote:
W_HAMILTON wrote:The post-trade team just doesn't have the talent to play exciting basketball or win much against these winning teams.

I'm not so sure about that?

DJ can be pretty exciting. Hendo can be pretty exciting. Tyrus can be pretty exciting.

Yeah, i agree. They showed it against Sac town that they can be productive and be exciting. They just cannot do it on a consisent basis. Henderson showed he can be a scorer, and so has DJ. They just don't do it every night, which is what makes this team bad. It's not that we don't have the talent to necessarily stay within this race (obvioulsy prior to Jack going down), we just can't do anything with consistency.

W_HAMILTON · Post #15 » by **W_HAMILTON** » Sun Mar 6, 2011 12:00 am

You keep going back and forth. You said we didn't have the talent, now you say we do.

Augustin can put up 20, but his role is probably best as like a 3rd or 4th option rather than a 2nd and sometimes 1st option. Henderson looks like he is developing into a nice player, but right now he would have been best used as a 6th/7th man coming off the bench to provide defensive intensity and possibly a little scoring spark as he continued to grow.

W_HAMILTON · Post #16 » by **W_HAMILTON** » Sun Mar 6, 2011 12:11 am

As for back-to-backs, I don't want to hear a damn thing about that because we were one game away from having (yet again) the most b2bs in the entire league, whereas a team like the Lakers have the fewest. If you are a championship contender and we are so bad, you shouldn't lose to us, and you damn sure shouldn't lose even more face by making up excuses for losing to us.

bobcats3wallace · Post #17 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Sun Mar 6, 2011 12:16 am

W_HAMILTON wrote:You keep going back and forth. You said we didn't have the talent, now you say we do.

Augustin can put up 20, but his role is probably best as like a 3rd or 4th option rather than a 2nd and sometimes 1st option. Henderson looks like he is developing into a nice player, but right now he would have been best used as a 6th/7th man coming off the bench to provide defensive intensity and possibly a little scoring spark as he continued to grow.

We don't have the game talent now because of the inconsistancies. However when looking at each individual player, there is talent to be had and they have showed it in flashes. You can' do anything unless your consistent, no matter how talented you are. That's our problem.

As for Henderson, he looked liek a starter. He still may be a starter. The best way to find out is to throw him out there and see what he does. You don't know what you have until you give them a chance to show you.

Battery · Post #18 » by **Battery** » Sun Mar 6, 2011 12:22 am

W_HAMILTON wrote:As for back-to-backs, I don't want to hear a damn thing about that because we were one game away from having (yet again) the most b2bs in the entire league, whereas a team like the Lakers have the fewest. If you are a championship contender and we are so bad, you shouldn't lose to us, and you damn sure shouldn't lose even more face by making up excuses for losing to us.

I'm just stating the reality of the situation. When you play a tough hard fought playoff type game the night before against Orlando AND you're an older team like the Celtics and Lakers are, even a rested Cavs team would give them trouble playing at home.

And it's the regular season, opposing teams rarely bring their A game when they play us. Now that we're getting down towards the end of the season, you will see teams step up their defensive intensity as they make a push towards the playoffs. Expect to get mauled a lot along the way.

W_HAMILTON · Post #19 » by **W_HAMILTON** » Sun Mar 6, 2011 12:32 am

bobcats3wallace wrote:We don't have the game talent now because of the inconsistancies.

They have "inconsistencies" because we are asking them to play above themselves because we don't have the talent to allow them to play the roles they should be playing right now.

As for Henderson, he looked liek a starter. He still may be a starter. The best way to find out is to throw him out there and see what he does. You don't know what you have until you give them a chance to show you.

No, the best way was for him to continue to develop off the bench until we were sure he was ready to start. As a starter, his defense has lacked the same sort of intensity he showed off the bench, and his 10-15pt performances (which were a great addition coming off the bench) aren't enough out of our starting SG if we expect to win.

bobcats3wallace · Post #20 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Sun Mar 6, 2011 12:35 am

Your comparing a large sample size to a very small sample size when talking about Henderson on the bench vs as a starter. He struggled when he first came off the bench too, then came around. We have no idea yet what he can do as a starter, give the kid a chance. It's a difference in opinion I guess. I think the best way to find what you have in a guy is to play him. What better way to play him then to make him a starter? None, IMO. He showed that he has the skills to be a starter in this league, so you give him a chance.