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Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:54 pm
by BobsBuddy
:o :roll: :-? :-? After seeing these guys play.. Whats your opinion as to their future with the Bobcats?

Cunningham-Silas played him a little at 3 last night and he had 10 points. At 6'8" 230lb he is very long, has good mid range possiblity and can go to the rim. His offense seems to be better than defense and haven't seen him shoot from the foul line. Seems very athletic. Silas should play him more to back up Jax to get a good evaulation before end of season. This guy could develop into a solid 3/4 backup and is a Keeper Dmac is expendable

White-At 6'9" 250lbs this guy has a good mid range jump shot, can rebound, plays defense and is a low post player. Silas should keep giving him at least 10 minutes a night and evaluate through end of season.
He could be TT's backup next season freeing us up to trade Diaw in off season. Keeper

Przybilla-- He will serve the purpose of a Rent-a-Center for the rest of this season but his Salary needs to be used to sign a FA like Spencer Haws to start and resign Kuwamee as a backup. We are stuck with Diop but Silas actually might get some production out of him next season giving us 3 centers--Joel goes

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:21 pm
by Fred Williamson
benchwarmers, 8th/9th men off the bench at best. I wouldn't mind if we cut all three of them and sign D-league scrubs to fill their roles.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:44 pm
by BigSlam
I like White more than I like Cunningham (White seems to have more dimensions to his game - he has the mid range J but he also rebounds and blocks shots).

Pryzbilla is a scrub.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:21 pm
by hotrod
I like White the best. That guy is automatic 15ft to 17ft. He puts a ton of rotation on his shots. He was really battling Boozer last night too. Actually right now I would rather play him instead of night & day Diaw.

Cunningham is ok. Surprised to see Korver blocking his shots though.

Pryzbilla is 6 fouls and a 1 blocked shot guy.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:59 pm
by dmutombo321
They've found a competant back up 4 in White. If we can find a center who can score in the post, White is the type who can really punish the opposition for double teams.

Cunningham was impressive last night. I like him as a primary back up 3 and third option at the 4.

Agree the Pryz is done. Not that Charlotte acquired him for anything more than his expiring contract anyway.

Also agree that Hawes should be a FA center target unless something crazy happens and we can draft Kanter. I mentioned Hawes a couple months ago and caught a bunch of flack. But people need to be realistic and realize that with the Bobcats limited financial situation, Hawes is the best 5 prospect likely to be available in the $5 million neighborhood. And he's still 22 years old. He'll never be an allstar but with 35 mpg he can give 13/8/1.5.

If Charlotte continues to lose games and get leap frogged by teams like Milwaukee and the Clippers, and end up drawing a pick as high as 8, its possible someone like Terrence Jones or Kanter could slip to them.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:39 pm
by 99problems
Committing 5 million dollars a year to Spencer Hawes would just be stupid. Whether he's worth that money or not as a player, that makes no sense for the franchise until they are ready to start building UPWARDS.

Charlotte is 2 years away from signing a free agent that could be a rotational guy on a legit playoff team. Everything until then should be cheap. Then once you've drafted some young talent, you see what positional needs you have and sign that mid level type of guy to get the full potential out of his contract in what should be the true "getting better, going upwards, team has some potential" years.

Basically, until Diaw, Jackson, and Diop are gone - and you've taken drafted 4 first rounders...thats when you look to sign somebody to be a part of core of your future. Not now when the team is going to be staticly bad for the next couple of years

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:47 pm
by countryboi
cunningham is ok i dont like his size and quickness at all....we dont even have a position for him.......DJ white i like alot he should be playing at least 20 mins........now that Przybilla is freaking useless he is a stiff luckily he is not hear cause he is a good basketball player

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:01 pm
by Stun704
I believe Cunningham and White need to be apart of our long term future, the Blazers fans were right, Cunningham won't lose games on the court, and he seems to always do the right thing with the ball in his hands. we need that type of player.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:49 pm
by bobcats3wallace
Stun704 wrote:I believe Cunningham and White need to be apart of our long term future, the Blazers fans were right, Cunningham won't lose games on the court, and he seems to always do the right thing with the ball in his hands. we need that type of player.


Agreed. Cunningham has good bball IQ and uses proper technique on almost everything he does. He really boxes out on every rebound, you don't see that much now-a-days. He has a solid mid-range game as well. The thing that will be crucial to him sticking around is his ability to play SF. He played SF very well last night. He is like a D. Brown in the sense he is an awkward tweener. However he is clearly leaps and bounds better than D. Brown. I think he can proove to be a very capable and solid back-up as a guy who plays primarily at the 3 but can slide ot the 4. His mid-range shot can proove to be lethal, much the same as White's.

I really like Whites potential. I think he coudl be a really solid bench guy for us for years to come. The comment that we should cut all of them is simply ridiculous...bitter much? Anyway, both these guys can be a part of our bench as we build forward. I like the prospects of a Thomas/White PF rotation. We defiantly won that Nazr trade.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:25 pm
by Eoghan
White is a solid rotation guy, good midrange game. I'd like to see his back to the basket game some more though.

Cunningham, I've only seen in the one game and one game doesn't mean jack u know what. His athleticism seems a little limited for the 3 and he's a little slight to play a lot of 4. If he could develop a mean trey he could be a Ryan Andersen kind of player and that would be nice.

Ghostface is definitely running on one good knee, he's Montross slow right now and that's not normal, I've seen Pryz play for years. Even though, he's still a wily old vet and doesn't make mistakes. If he can come back healthy next year and be resigned for cheap, I'd definitely hold on to him.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:50 pm
by dmutombo321
99problems wrote:Committing 5 million dollars a year to Spencer Hawes would just be stupid. Whether he's worth that money or not as a player, that makes no sense for the franchise until they are ready to start building UPWARDS.

Charlotte is 2 years away from signing a free agent that could be a rotational guy on a legit playoff team. Everything until then should be cheap. Then once you've drafted some young talent, you see what positional needs you have and sign that mid level type of guy to get the full potential out of his contract in what should be the true "getting better, going upwards, team has some potential" years.

Basically, until Diaw, Jackson, and Diop are gone - and you've taken drafted 4 first rounders...thats when you look to sign somebody to be a part of core of your future. Not now when the team is going to be staticly bad for the next couple of years


Assuming Charlotte completely collapses and draws a 7-8 pick, if they play their cards right, they may be able to start building upwards sooner rather than later. I generally agree they absolutely should not be signing any overpriced, aging veterans to long term contracts. But someone like Hawes, who is only 22, is young enough to basically be akin to us getting another draft pick. Aside from Kanter, he would be capable of providing more production at the 5 than any other center available in this upcoming draft. If we can move Jack and/or Diaw in the summer, that should provide for some additional cost savings to sign a mid/major FA in summer of '13. Its looking like we'll be stuck with Diop on the books until the bitter end.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:21 pm
by BigSlam
bobcats3wallace wrote:Agreed. Cunningham has good bball IQ and uses proper technique on almost everything he does. He really boxes out on every rebound, you don't see that much now-a-days.

Really?

I thought he was horrible on D last night. Really, really bad allowing many open uncontested shots as well as missing his rotations badly.

I also think he has been unseen when it comes to rebounding or anything in the paint, including boxing out.

No doubt he has a very nice mid range J though.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:09 pm
by Marvel
Hawes blows donkey balls. HELL NO.

I'm not going to echo what's already been said about the new young guys and Prz. I agree with the evaluations of each, including Prz.....talk about TC 2.0, a foul a minute.

I like West more than Cunningham, for the reasons mentioned. He just brings more to the table than DC. I think DC 's defensive flaws might be a result of having to adjust to defending the perimeter, as opposed to the paint. Although it's only been....well really one game that we've seen DC play, i would like to see Silas play him around 10-15 mins a game and totally send Brick to oblivion. Maybe he just needs time to adjust.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:59 pm
by bobcats3wallace
BigSlam wrote:
bobcats3wallace wrote:Agreed. Cunningham has good bball IQ and uses proper technique on almost everything he does. He really boxes out on every rebound, you don't see that much now-a-days.

Really?

I thought he was horrible on D last night. Really, really bad allowing many open uncontested shots as well as missing his rotations badly.

I also think he has been unseen when it comes to rebounding or anything in the paint, including boxing out.

No doubt he has a very nice mid range J though.


Cunningham held Deng scoreless. Mcguire came back in to start the second half and suddenly Deng scores 7 points. Cunningham comes back in and Deng goes quiet again. I thought his defense was solid. He's that pesky type player where he sticks around and in there for the rebounds. I like guys like that on my bench. You can always find a way to use a guy like him.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:16 pm
by Marvel
I would LOVE to see White develop a face up game, like Baby's in Boston.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:39 am
by Rich4114
Pretty sure none of these guys will lead us to the promise land. Weren't they just the least valuable pieces OKC and POR had so they could trade them to us?

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:02 am
by Jaruff
Rich4114 wrote:Pretty sure none of these guys will lead us to the promise land. Weren't they just the least valuable pieces OKC and POR had so they could trade them to us?


No, OKC could have always sent us Byron Mullins.

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:31 am
by Stun704
Rich4114 wrote:Pretty sure none of these guys will lead us to the promise land. Weren't they just the least valuable pieces OKC and POR had so they could trade them to us?

Who said they will lead? they'll develop into solid bench players

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:37 am
by BobsBuddy
:roll: :( :( :roll: I agree with DC and DJW being 8-9 bench players this season but next year they move up in minutes as I believe we will trade Diaw or Jax in off season. I see us not making the playoffs and drafting at around 8- 10. Our first need is a young large post up Center who scores. Portlands pick is going to be around 20-23 where we can again pickup another wing for 2-3. Maybe we package Diaw with that pick to move into the mid teens?
2012 starting lineup
DJA,Liv, Temple or Draft pick?
Hendo, Carroll
Jax DC Draft pick?
TT DJW Najera
Kwamee Draft pick and Diop

Re: Cunningham, White,Przybilla? Your Evaluation

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:24 am
by doc.end
99problems wrote:
Basically, until Diaw, Jackson, and Diop are gone - and you've taken drafted 4 first rounders...

Further trades aside, it's 4 first rounders only if no protections would take place. We are sure to have at least two our own picks and most probably we will get NOH pick in those three years. It is probably anytthing in 3-5 picks range (NOH miss playoffs, won a top 3 pick in a lottery, keeps pick this year, probably not next year then; we may be bad enough to keep our pick next year and even in 2013; we never know how Portland will do in 2013 with all those health questions marks + something unexected may happen).