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jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:46 pm
by fatlever
chadfordinsider Chad Ford
Corrected deal: Bucks get Beno, Stephen Jackson, Shaun Livingston & 19. Bobcats get pick 7 & Maggette. Kings get 10 & John Salmons.



discuss the trade here.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:47 pm
by vorbis
really not going to count on any one "confirmation" until the fax is in at the league office. so much misinformation out there about this deal.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:47 pm
by fatlever
i love this deal for the bucks. i think jax, bogut and jennings + all the defenders and role players they have make a fine team.

sad to see jax go to be honest. i thought he was due for a monster year.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:50 pm
by fatlever
maggette salary info

2011-12 = 10.2 mil
2012-13 = 10.9 mil

shockingly overpaid.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:51 pm
by MoGrAdY
Bucks got a terrible deal. Bobcats win, by far. Kings made a deal.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:52 pm
by vorbis
MoGrAdY wrote:Bucks got a terrible deal. Bobcats win, by far. Kings made a deal.


even if it's not ultimately true, i just want to frame this so i can pretend that it happens sometimes.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:59 pm
by ohara
I'm OK with it. Just have to make the right picks at #7 and #9 to finish off the deal for a success.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:00 pm
by freakon0mics
This might be official now. Sportscenter just now reporting it.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:05 pm
by Liver_Pooty
Fantastic trade for Charlotte. Cho is indeed rebuilding the team in the mold of the Thunder. Everyone doesn't need to look too far into Maggette, he was thrown in there to make the salaries match up, and although he is grossly overpaid he looks like Rambo with his shirt off and can contribute.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:05 pm
by raleigh
ohara wrote:I'm OK with it. Just have to make the right picks at #7 and #9 to finish off the deal for a success.


I feel the same way. Hard to fault picking up a #7 pick without taking on any extra salary or trading any long-term pieces.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:06 pm
by freakon0mics
With Jax now gone, this leaves more scoring opportunites for Augustin and Hendo now.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:06 pm
by doc.end
Do you think we would pick VeselĂ˝ if he slips from 6th? Over Tristan? I know I'd do but Cho?

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:08 pm
by fatlever
maggette will be in heaven being the #1 option on a bad team. he'll put up 20ppg, with half of it coming on free throws.

and he'll average 0.1 assists per game.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:08 pm
by hondaaccord
Rich Cho doing his thing. Hopefully you guys will suck the next two years and will continue to get high draft picks.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:09 pm
by fatlever
freakon0mics wrote:With Jax now gone, this leaves more scoring opportunites for Augustin and Hendo now.


nope... all shots go to maggette. he gets to shoot every time he touches the ball. ;)

maggette's dream come true.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:09 pm
by Paydro70
I freaked out when this was first reported, because Ford thought we gave up #9. This is the first deal ever that it at least appears, on its face, that we won. It is roughly salary-neutral and provides a pretty decent return for jackson. Magette has his share of problems, but one thing he can actually do is score, so it may not even hurt us THAT much competitively. Obviously the big worry is about the leadership for all these young guys... still, hard not to see this as a net win for us.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:10 pm
by fatlever
thanks for all the good times jax. i was finally turning into a big fan.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:10 pm
by raleigh
fatlever wrote:maggette will be in heaven being the #1 option on a bad team. he'll put up 20ppg, with half of it coming on free throws.

and he'll average 0.1 assists per game.


See below.

hondaaccord wrote:Rich Cho doing his thing. Hopefully you guys will suck the next two years and will continue to get high draft picks.


See above.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:11 pm
by The Skyhook
This makes me think you guys will end up taking Bismack Biyombo with one of the picks.

Re: jackson, livingston & #19 for maggette & #7

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:11 pm
by SamBone
could they now trade 7 and 9 to move up?