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2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#1 » by BigSlam » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:44 pm

So, where are we at?

PG: DJA - Kemba
SG: Hendo - Hammer
SF: Mags
PF: Diaw - T2 - DJW
C: Biz - Gana - Mexicat

Look about right?

So we have 4 roster spots we could fill and a glaring hole at the 3 spot. I guess one of the vacant roster spots could be used on Dante to back up Mags. The only way I see Kwaman here next season is if he comes back on the (very) cheap.

I was looking at the FA lists and there really isn't anything that appealing to round out the roster - so I assume it will be done thruogh trade?
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#2 » by Fred Williamson » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:52 pm

I can see us picking up UPS again, or maybe trading DJ for a SF and then sign a veteran backup PG on a short term contract
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#3 » by Walt Cronkite » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:09 pm

Really liking the way these Chotime Bobcats are shaping up.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#4 » by bobcats3wallace » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:14 pm

I would be very surprised if we didn't hear that we offered the QO to Cunningham within the next few days. I would like to have him back. I liked what I saw from him at the 3 off the bench last year and he COULD be a bench piece for the future.

I think that Kwame is going to have to take a low $ 2 year deal. MAYBE 2 million per. Honestly though, I think i'm fine with just signing a guy for the minimum and rolling with Bismack. I would also be more than happy to give Diop some PT as he continued to improve relative to where he was when he first came here. When will he be healthy?

I think what is interesting is when you start to look at how Cho did it in Seattle/OKC and how he is doing it here. i think he probably feels we have our version of Westbrook in Kemba. Not necessarily in playing styles but in the sense that Kemba will score for you, he could be a budding star, and he ahs that killer instinct. I know that Cho wasn't involved in Perkins, but I think Bismack will be better than Perkins. Great defense, decent offense. Then we have our defensive stopper at SG with Hendo, who can obviously score more than Stephelosha. May eventually get to be a very decent scoring G. We then have a capable PF in Thomas who you would think could produce about what Ibaka did in terms of offense and rebounding. Could also get some blocked shots. Obviously that leaves one BIG hole, SF and a star. Well, for those that like to look forward, we could find that "star" next year. Wouldn't Harrison Barnes look pretty damn good to kind of "finish out" the OKC model? Potentially Kemba/Hendo/Barnes/Thomas/Bismack and then you have money to spend on some vets on the bench? Obviously that is pretty far out, but if something even similar to that happens this team could very well be on the up and up in a matter of 2 years. Maybe I have my homer glasses on, but I just see a lot of similarities in the moves Cho is making now and even to the way he is setting up this team. Our defense should be pretty damn good with Hendo, Thomas, and Bismack. Let alone the fact that Kemba is a decent defender, probably superior to DJ. Needless to say, i'm excited about the future and even next year to see these guys perform.

As far as next years roster goes, I would be very surprised if Diaw wasn't dealt for more depth at the 3 and future draft consideration. Even if that means we do have to take on some salary, Cho has always felt getting draft picks and getting high draft picks is worth adding some salary. I trust him.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#5 » by bobcats3wallace » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:16 pm

Walt Cronkite wrote:Really liking the way these Chotime Bobcats are shaping up.


Yep. Do any of us think Higgins would had been able to pull of a trade to bring us Bismack at 7 and Kemba at 9 while actually decreasing our total pay roll? I say HELL NO.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#6 » by ohara » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:17 pm

I think Kwame will be resigned. He knows Biyombo is raw on offense and Kwame will still start. But that allows us to play Biyombo for 1-16 min/game as a Rookie, and to learn. Will be good for both of them. Diop is for when we get in foul trouble or someone needs a night off. Mexicat may be gone in a trade at some point or come off the bench late in games or in blowouts.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#7 » by bobcats3wallace » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:33 pm

ohara wrote:I think Kwame will be resigned. He knows Biyombo is raw on offense and Kwame will still start. But that allows us to play Biyombo for 1-16 min/game as a Rookie, and to learn. Will be good for both of them. Diop is for when we get in foul trouble or someone needs a night off. Mexicat may be gone in a trade at some point or come off the bench late in games or in blowouts.


I think Biyombo would learn more from actually playing, like Henderson. Let the man play and learn through experience.
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Post#8 » by Elden Payton » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:41 pm

I'm hoping Biyombo gets 20-26 mpg as a rook pending foul trouble, I consider it a given that Kemba will play 30+ & that DJ is as good as gone & the same goes for Diaw..I expect Kwame to be back & play 30+ aswell.

Kemba 30+
Hendo 30+
Maggette 30+ (lol)
TT 30+ (backing up SF aswell)
Kwame 30+ BB 20-26(backing up PF aswell)

depth pending further trades.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#9 » by SWedd523 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:47 pm

Sik Infant wrote:I'm hoping Biyombo gets 20-26 mpg as a rook pending foul trouble, I consider it a given that Kemba will play 30+ & that DJ is as good as gone & the same goes for Diaw..I expect Kwame to be back & play 30+ aswell.

Kemba 30+
Hendo 30+
Maggette 30+ (lol)
TT 30+ (backing up SF aswell)
Kwame 30+ BB 20-26(backing up PF aswell)

depth pending further trades.

I agree. I think BB has the mental fortitude to work through his inevitable foul issues.

Throw them to the dogs, that's the only way we'll be able to see how good they are.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#10 » by doc.end » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:27 pm

I agree I think it is like:

DJ - Kemba
Carroll
Bad Porn
Diaw - Thomas - White - Mexicat
Smack

with Hernderson and Diop on injury list;

so I guess lots of mall ball anyway but resigned Kwame, Cunningham or other SF and need to bring a SG or tall PG to have more options than Kemba - DJ backckourt or Hammer starting till Hendo is back.

Even with healthy Diop we need Kwame cause Bismack will surely have foult troubles often in the beginning till he adjust to how NBA is played and called.

i would go with Kwame doing his thing in first quarter, backed up by Bismack, letting him start in second half and switching to Kwame and small ball to extent relying on Bismack's foult troubles.
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Final Roster Spots 

Post#11 » by Snidely FC » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:17 pm

So there are 11 players under contract for next year, leaving 4 roster spots.

Augustin
Biyombo
Carroll
Diaw
Diop
Hendo
Maggette
Najera
Thomas
Walker
White

Would like to see the next two spots go to Kwame and Cunningham.

So that leaves two spots.

Would like to see the Cats go after Sam Young and Reggie Williams.
Young started by year's end for the Grizz, and is an Restricted Free Agent, but in addition to still having Mayo, their last 2 draft picks are SG Xavier Henry and Josh Selby, and they have their hands full trying to resign Marc Gasol. I say make a play for him. Similar deal with the GSW. Williams is a 42% 3 pt shooter, but they just drafted Klay Thompson and Jenkins, giving them scorers all over the place. Young and Williams both have the size to swing from SG to SF. Neither should break the bank.

Any other ideas for the final roster spots?
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Post#12 » by doc.end » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:26 pm

FA minicamp starts (I think) today with many bodies attending, that might give as a bit of a clue for bench players. I'm going to find a link...

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http://sportsclt.com/2011/06/26/bobcats ... mini-camp/
Participants will include last year Bobcats Garrett Temple and former Bobcat Alan Anderson. Garrett Temple is not guaranteed a spot on the roster next year and will be left to battle for a spot with other participants including; Jawad Williams, Adam Koch, Stephane Lasme, Lance Allred, Patrick O’Bryant, Thomas Coleman, Gary Flowers, Orien Greene, Brandon Heath, Cedric Jackson, Russell Robinson, Elijah Millsap, Tony Gaffney, Jermaine Taylor, DeMarre Carroll, and Ronald Dupree.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#13 » by BigSlam » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:28 pm

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Post#14 » by Jaruff » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:09 pm

Jermaine Taylor would be a nice fit. He played well for Sacramento last year in limited time.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#15 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:32 pm

How about playing T-Time at the center position for some minutes if Kwame doesn't resign for a decent sum of money? I think it wouldn't be that bad in today's NBA. I go with a front-court of Diaw and Tyrus all the time during the last 5-7 minutes of a game in 2K11 (lol).
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Post#16 » by Kembastockton » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:40 pm

Tyrus usually does gets some minutes at center.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#17 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:09 pm

DJQuick wrote:Tyrus usually does gets some minutes at center.

Yeah, my bad, didn't completely sum up. He rarely has started, so how about starting him at center and ending games with him as a center. With Gana getting some minutes from the bench and I guess Biyombo will be tried out at the 5 also. He would need to bulk up a little though.
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Re: Final Roster Spots 

Post#18 » by Eoghan » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:32 pm

PG: Augustin/Walker
SG: Hendo/Carroll
SF: Maggette/Cunningham(?)/McGuire(?)/UPS(?)/(other FA?)
PF: Thomas/Diaw/White/Najera
C: Kwame(?)/Biyombo/Diaw/Diop


The frontcourt is a hot mess, only Kwame (if he resigns) and Diop are natural Centers. Hopefully Bizzy Bone can play there but time will tell. When Charlotte goes small, Diaw logged a lot of minutes at C.

Either way, they need to try and trade Najera/White/Diaw for a C and sign a FA SF or vice versa.

As much as I love Diaw, he's the most attractive trade chip and really the only one that you could trade in a 2 for 1 scenario and have those players be decent. Either way, probably be best to wait until mid-season when his value is highest and most attractive to teams making a playoff push, plus it will aid our tanking efforts to be horrible the first half of the season.
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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#19 » by TheKingofSting » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:59 pm

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Re: 2011/2012 Bobcats Depth Chart 

Post#20 » by TheKingofSting » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:17 pm

ohara wrote:I think Kwame will be resigned. He knows Biyombo is raw on offense and Kwame will still start. But that allows us to play Biyombo for 1-16 min/game as a Rookie, and to learn. Will be good for both of them. Diop is for when we get in foul trouble or someone needs a night off. Mexicat may be gone in a trade at some pointor come off the bench late in games or in blowouts.


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