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lets take higgins, MJ and cho out of the equation for a second since we all know they are really to blame (or thank depending on your point of view) by putting this team together with the obvious goal of getting the #1 pick.

that being said, silas, the rest of the coaching staff and the players certainly aren't trying to lose games. they are (in theory) trying to win games, regardless of the obvious tank in place.

now bonnell suggests that silas should not be fired as a result of this recent wave of ass kickings. i can agree with that idea. why hire a new coach in the middle of this mess.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... ching.html

however, silas has to take some of the blame for our play. while there arent many coaches in the history of the league that could get wins from this team, especially with the recent injuries, i would have a hard time believing that many coaches could at least get this team to be competitive and/or somewhat exciting to watch. we are neither competitive or exciting.

- the team isn't playing hard
- silas admitted he wasnt calling any plays for his rookie pg early in the year. on what planet does that make sense?
- we've all seen the offensive sets where our center pops out to the high post to catch a pass and then redirect the offense. now this was fine when diaw was the starting center but to continue to run that same set with diop, mullens and biz makes no sense.
- we generally look completely unprepared for each game
- sometimes it feels like silas jr is actually the one doing all the work while the old man just sits around and watches.

i just want to be fair, because i was very critical of LB when the team started losing games by 30+ points, not being about to break 80 and looking like the team was uninterested in competing. of course the expectations were a lot higher for the LB team but the concept is the same. both teams are grossly failing to meet expectations. there is no reason for an NBA team to ever lose consistently by 30+ points over a long stretch.

nobody expects this team to win a bunch of games, but we should expect them to at least be competitive on most nights.

silas is a god awful coach. His quote after the game today is pathetic, making excuses like LB used to do.

"I don't have a full squad," Bobcats coach Paul Silas said. "That's the way I look at it. If I had a full squad and we were losing this way, it would be awful. But you take Aldridge and Wallace off their team and see what kind of team you'd have."

Like Corey Maggette is going to make a damn difference. even if the roster does suck he should take some accountability for the lack of effort and the terrible plays he calls (or doesnt call?? wtf does he think his job is??) not a leader at all

fatlever wrote:i just want to be fair, because i was very critical of LB when the team started losing games by 30+ points, not being about to break 80 and looking like the team was uninterested in competing. of course the expectations were a lot higher for the LB team but the concept is the same. both teams are grossly failing to meet expectations. there is no reason for an NBA team to ever lose consistently by 30+ points over a long stretch.

LB had significantly more talent to work with than Silas does this season. Silas doesn't even have 4 actual NBA players - it doesn't matter what he does. This is essentially a D-league team right now.

Also, who else misses DJ? Its okay to say you miss him.

I don't want Silas fired. I think his granddaddy personality is just what our young kids need. However that being said something has got to change. We can't afford for our young guys to get so used to loosing that they give up playing hard. I would say that first some type of trade has to be made to improve the team for the second half of the season. If that doesn't work Silas has to be replaced if for no other reason than just to shake things up.

DJQuick wrote:I think his granddaddy personality is just what our young kids need.

that is the actual problem IMO

DY_nasty wrote:

fatlever wrote:i just want to be fair, because i was very critical of LB when the team started losing games by 30+ points, not being about to break 80 and looking like the team was uninterested in competing. of course the expectations were a lot higher for the LB team but the concept is the same. both teams are grossly failing to meet expectations. there is no reason for an NBA team to ever lose consistently by 30+ points over a long stretch.

LB had significantly more talent to work with than Silas does this season. Silas doesn't even have 4 actual NBA players - it doesn't matter what he does. This is essentially a D-league team right now.

Also, who else misses DJ? Its okay to say you miss him.

yes, true LB had more talent and he also had higher expectations.

my expectations for this team (going into the season) were to win maybe 1 out of 5. be competitive most nights at home, stealing some victories from some good teams here and there and on the road to be competitive maybe every other night, with the other night maybe losing by 15.

never in my wildest dreams did i think we could suck so bad as to lose by 80 points over a two game span, not breaking 75 in either loss.

we have scored 81pts or less 10 times this year, including 5 of our last 6. 10 losses of more than 15 pts including 5 of the past 6.

thats epic bad.

of course the players are to blame as well. don't think i am not point fingers at them as well. tyrus is a joke. diop is a joke. diaw is a joke. those are 3 veteran players who have been starters or big contributors in the past, all 3 making big money and all 3 are still in their primes. and all 3 came to camp grossly out of shape and not ready to play. only diop has an excuse. kemba, hendo, tryus, mullens, white, dj, biz, diop are all 1st round picks, most lottery. i've seen many rosters in the history of the league who played better with much less talent.

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DJQuick wrote:I think his granddaddy personality is just what our young kids need.

that is the actual problem IMO

his personality was great for this team last year. we needed that break after what happened with LB. we needed someone who could get some confidence back in these players. but at some point silas and his staff has to do some actual coaching. i just wonder how much silas is actually doing on the coaching end this year. i'd bet his son is probably doing 90% of the coaching in the practices.

advanced wrote:silas is a god awful coach. His quote after the game today is pathetic, making excuses like LB used to do.

"I don't have a full squad," Bobcats coach Paul Silas said. "That's the way I look at it. If I had a full squad and we were losing this way, it would be awful. But you take Aldridge and Wallace off their team and see what kind of team you'd have."

Like Corey Maggette is going to make a damn difference. even if the roster does suck he should take some accountability for the lack of effort and the terrible plays he calls (or doesnt call?? wtf does he think his job is??) not a leader at all

this quote is what made me upset last night. its like he wasnt even mad at the way the team played. he just was like "well, what am i supposed to do, i dont have corey maggette?" and to try to compare his situation to the blazers losing aldridge is ridiculous. and then to wake up to read about how bonnell gives silas a complete pass just put me over the edge.

the lakers scrubs outscored our scrubs 33-15 in the 4th quarter. the lakers bench is awful, yet they still smashed us. in terms of the talent on the floor, that was a fairly even fight.

100% of the blame cant fall on only the players and the front office. silas has to take some blame. thats all i am suggesting.

if anything it shows how annoying LB was that Silas will apparently get a free pass for life just for succeeding him

I would rather have Steven Silas as coach. Even as interim this season if he would take it. Or we can hope Kahn would fire Adelman somehow or other good proven coach would become available. No, no that one, no. I don't see a reason for Paul Silas being our coach next year.

fatlever wrote:- sometimes it feels like silas jr is actually the one doing all the work while the old man just sits around and watches.

I agree with this particular point you made and I definitely don't like it. I get that Silas is the laid-back type of coach, yet it seems like he's too peaceful. Shouldn't a coach be more upset when his team gets blown out almost every night, despite the fact that it shouldn't be competing? Come on! You just have to have some competitive juices. You can't take all this losing so lightly.

But what I see is that before every game the announcers do the typical starting five and team introductions and when it comes to Paul Silas, the coach of the Bobcats, the cameras zoom in on him and show him laughing on the sideline and holding his belly as if he were Father Christmas.

Toughen up!!! You have to chew out the team once in a while, especially if it's such a bad season. Even though they might seem like some nice guys who simply aren't able to win while being so out-played, let's remember that they still are arrogant, over-paid basketball players who may easily slide into depression/arrogance/apathy etc. whatever is the case..., when not being barked at.

Any coach of this team has a number of things going against him.

2 rookies that we want to blood.
4 other new players to the team this season.
No summer league.
No real training camp.
A weak roster.
A condensed season with games jammed in every other night.
No practice time.
Significant injuries to key players.

The results are what they are.

Who is actually available? No Vincent, no larry Brown, Bickerstaff had a job luckily. IS there a good coach out there?

Sad thing is to play Bismack heavy minutes, we would have to let Cho coach this team. Alsop what is funny is how few security morons can influence development of unique big man talents (that's nothing against Werdann) and franchise fate a bit - well a bit enough to make a difference.

jerry sloan. he is a good motivator AND a good teacher. problem is hes old and probably wouldnt come here and would be expensive as hell. not sure he'd be interested in a project team. then again he had a problem with divas so who knows

again, i am not advocating that silas gets fired, unless it was to simply promote silas jr to the head spot. bringing in a new coach now would be counterproductive, cost money and who would want to come knowing we are tanking.

but i refuse to give silas a 100% pass on this season.

every team is dealing with no training camp, injuries and no practice time, so i dont really see that excuse being limited to only us.

Bring Larry Brown back. He can teach Kemba the spin move.

fatlever wrote:again, i am not advocating that silas gets fired, unless it was to simply promote silas jr to the head spot.

He's already there on the bench and can't do anything. Why would it change if he was head coach?

but i refuse to give silas a 100% pass on this season.

every team is dealing with no training camp, injuries and no practice time, so i dont really see that excuse being limited to only us.

And all the rosters as bad as ours and some that are actually better (Wizards, Raptors, Pistons, Hornets) are all doing just as bad. It's not like we are the only team sucking. Our roster really isn't that good, especially not with the injuries we have had.

Having a SL and a training camp etc wont really effect the really good teams because, well, they are really good.

The thing some team with better rosters are doing not much better makes me optimistic we wouldn't get too much better to lose our precisious first spot in draft pre-lottery if we get a new coach and our plays would actually make sense not just ba accident. Because I wouldn't want to have thsi season wasted y losing no.1 spot after we went lolcats encore for so long.

BigSlam wrote:Any coach of this team has a number of things going against him.

2 rookies that we want to blood.
4 other new players to the team this season.
No summer league.
No real training camp.
A weak roster.
A condensed season with games jammed in every other night.
No practice time.
Significant injuries to key players.

The results are what they are.

I agree with this. This is what you get when you factor all these points into account with a team like this.

Make no mistake about it, DJ, Maggs, Reggie(if he started the season healthy) out with injuries have hurt this team's offense, which is why you're getting pathetic scoring performances from the Cats regularly now.

I would also like to mention having a considerably weak a$s frontcourt hasn't helped our D either.

Don't lose your mind over this, it's not worth it. It would be a diferent story if we actually had a competitive team, but reality is, we don't.

But what I see is that before every game the announcers do the typical starting five and team introductions and when it comes to Paul Silas, the coach of the Bobcats, the cameras zoom in on him and show him laughing on the sideline and holding his belly as if he were Father Christmas.

I noticed that. Maybe he's buying into the whole Lolcats culture.