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2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:16 pm
by dukeknicksirish
I know the season isn't officially over, but the Bobcats really need to start looking forward toward how they will be next season. The question will begin with-
1.Do you pick up DJ Augistin's $4.4 million? This is something i am not sure about. The development of Kemba Walker is the holding point. Is he a PG or SG? If Jordan wants Waker to develop into a PG, then I say keep him and let him battle and fight for the starting position. Better prize, more practice and dedication will be put in.
2.Do you pick up DJ White's $1.1 million? YES. DJ has potential to be a very good back-up PF and he will come cheap as well.
3.Do you resign Derrick Brown? Yes. Good talent for under $1 million this season. He might ask for more than $1 million this year, but if it's under $2 million, i say you keep him.
4.Will they draft Anthony Davis? I say yes, he is the most complete player in the draft. I see no flaws in his game. Anthony and Bismack have the potential to be one of the best 4-5 defensive combo in the game. Both long and have the ability to defend and block shots, making an offense question on if they should drive the lane.
So lets say that the Bobcats keep Augistin, Brown and White and draft Davis:
5.Biyombo/Mullins
4.Davis/Tyrus/Najera
3.Magette/Brown/Henderson
2.Henderson/Williams/Carroll
1.Augistin/Wakler/Higgins
This seems like a good/young up-n-coming team that has potential due to the veteran role of Magette and the good quality youth and talent of Biyombo,Davis,Walker,Mullins, and White.
How do you see the Bobcats next year, and do you resign the players under restriction? Thoughts would be appreciated.
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:56 pm
by fatlever
augustin will probably get an offer sheet from someone this summer. i dont think its much of a secret that he would prefer to play elsewhere so i figure his agent will work hard to find a deal with another team this summer. the question is, at what point do you let him go for nothing?
white is nothing better than a 10th -15th man. it would be a mistake to sign him to anything more than his tender.
brown - see white. i like brown, but i wouldnt be upset if he was gone either.
davis - i refuse to even get the least bit excited about him. there is a 75% chance that he will not be a bobcat.
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:04 pm
by SWedd523
ballwhore said he's going to sign with Portland
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:28 pm
by Kembastockton
1. Brush him off.
2. UPS is aquality kid who wants to be here. Sign him up.
3. Sign him cheap if he wants to sign if not brush him off.
4. If we get the number one pick I hope so. There is no guaruntee. We could very well get anywhere from 2-4. I wouldn't cry about walking away with Kidd Gilchrist or Barnes either.
Don't forget we have the first pick of the second round as well. Might be a steal available. Fab Melo has probably taken a hit.
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:04 pm
by TheKingofSting
1. I give it a .1 % chance.
2. **** no
3. I'd like to think we'd keep UPS.
4. Probably won't have that chance unless we trade up in the draft but picking anywhere 2-4 this year could get us a star type player anyway.
5. Cut Little Higgins
6. Draft the leader in 3 pt shooting in college John Jenkins in the 2nd round.
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:12 pm
by doc.end
White's QO is actually 3,001,751.
1/ no-brainer; matching an offer sheet maybe a hard decision though
2/ I would say yes; not matching a multi-year deal though
3/ no-brainer, UPS has great advanced stats, he is under the radar injection of rebounds and high FG%, sometimes points in double digits; he likes it in Charlotte, won't ask for something ridiculous, he is an ideal bench player to have, no matter how your team looks like.
4/we should look at it after lottery and when the pool of this year crop is known; some may return to school, someone can get injured... so far Davis is considered to be consensus first option, hard to argue with that
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:49 pm
by Eoghan
1. This is a toss up. Honestly, I don't see any team throwing a ridiculous offer at him that we won't match but you never know, the Knicks wanted Felton way worse than we did.
2. HELL NO. He sucks.
3. Yeah, solid bench guy. Not untouchable by any means but he likes being here and plays hard.
4. Only if we can. Only if we can.
dukeknicksirish wrote:
So lets say that the Bobcats keep Augistin, Brown and White and draft Davis:
5.Biyombo/Mullins
4.Davis/Tyrus/Najera
3.Magette/Brown/Henderson
2.Henderson/Williams/Carroll
1.Augistin/Wakler/Higgins
This seems like a good/young up-n-coming team that has potential due to the veteran role of Magette and the good quality youth and talent of Biyombo,Davis,Walker,Mullins, and White.
How do you see the Bobcats next year, and do you resign the players under restriction? Thoughts would be appreciated.
That's barely a better team than we have now. Doubt Najera will be back, Thomas will be strongly evaluated for the rest of the season to decide if it's worth amnestying him (I doubt they'll amnesty him though). All Maggette is good for is going to the foul line. DJA can shoot but can't play defense, Kemba can defend/rebound but can't shoot. [insert other Bobcats here] is inconsistent.
My pipe dream is:
Draft Davis (Thomas Robinson consolation prize) and suck not quite as hard for 2012-2013. Wheel and deal expiring contracts for draft picks and just rape the 2013 draft. Add FA up-and-coming star attracted to nucleus. Become dynasty.
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:27 pm
by HornetJail
I say keep Augustin, unless other teams offer a lot for him.
Yes to UPS, maybe to White.
If Davis is there, yes.
We have to go hard after Batum or a similar player.
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:18 pm
by doc.end
I don't think we should sign Batum or somebody of his tier unless it would be a ridiculous bargain. The no Diaw trade means we will be (well) under the cap even after (re-)signing players to comlete 14-15 men roster and that's why we didn't upload roughly 8 millions of Petro/Farma contracts. We are going to have over 20 millions in expiring in Maggette, Carroll, Diop alone. Everybody else except rookies and newly signed players w AND THOMAS will expire too. That means we will have grat trade pieces for whoever would need to get our of luxury tax area, make a room for a run for star FA, to dump a contract/injured and/or to loan a player for a play off run (Maggette-lol, players like Mullens, R.Williams, Augustin? whoever we would let go for a right price).
By trading or straight taking on those contracts (like Pacers did with Barbosa without any contract in retun cause they were well under the cap) we would get whatever we want from what would be reasonably on the table (an maybe a bit more), we may even unload Thomas instead using amnesty clause to save even more money to let Jordan to be able to pay for a competitive hopefully one day contenting team and for picks. And whoever we like from 2013 FA crop we would have room for in addition to trading those aforementioned expirings for players under contract we like. Just suck one more year, draft at good place and roll some dices one year later because we would have to make moves because of the minimum salary cap regardless.
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:20 pm
by doc.end
This probably belongs somewhere else but I wonder what we could do with our 3.5M TPE (expires on draft day or so) if anything.
Re: 2012 Bobcats
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:00 pm
by captaincrunk
doc.end wrote:This probably belongs somewhere else but I wonder what we could do with our 3.5M TPE (expires on draft day or so) if anything.
Lots of >3.5 million dollar contracts out there we could take as part of larger trades.