A future without MJ?

ohara · Post #1 » by **ohara** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:51 am

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... bled=false

Good read. Gives you an idea that he has entrusted Cho to turn this around quickly or MJ might get out. Not so sure a new Owner who is loaded and will spend out the butt would be a bad thing. But I would fear that unless he has ties to the Carolinas, the team could eventually find its way out. Hopefully Cho gets the job done.

And if the Basketball Gods want to help, Davis this 2012 Draft and Muhammad in 2013 Draft would be a bit of welcomed news!

Liver_Pooty · Post #2 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:57 am

I cant really blame Jordan. Hes poor compared to other billionaire owners, and losing $20 million a year has to be botheting him. If he does sell i hope its in writing that the team cant move. Still 4 years away though

Eoghan · Post #3 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:57 am

He wants to turn a profit?

Step 1: Fire Higgins.

JGib23 · Post #4 » by **JGib23** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:59 am

Ny Daily News is a total rag.

It's obvious that he didn't recently tell Cho to rebuild, that decision happened at the trade deadline last season when Crash was traded and driven home even more on Draft night when Jack was traded so we could move up in the draft.

The last paragraph is just stupid... Why would any Bobcat fan want us to suck for 3 or 4 more seasons so that MJ would sell the team? Wouldn't all of us prefer that he became the GOAT as an owner and we win a championship in the next 3 or 4 seasons?

JGib23 · Post #5 » by **JGib23** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 1:04 am

And another thing.... Why would he sell, right when a new national tv contract will increase revenue and the stiffer lux tax penalties will increase the revenue sharing.

This article is dumb on so many levels.

HornetJail · Post #6 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 1:06 am

Getting rid of every Higgins would be the place to start.

Eoghan · Post #7 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 1:19 am

*David Stern reads the paper*

*slams it down on the table*

Curses! Now I'll have to rig the lottery for MJ. New Orleans isn't going to like it. Meh, I'll make Silverman deal with it.

captaincrunk · Post #8 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 1:30 am

BrotherDave wrote:*David Stern reads the paper*

*slams it down on the table*

Curses! Now I'll have to rig the lottery for MJ. New Orleans isn't going to like it. Meh, I'll make Silverman deal with it.

Elden Payton · Post #9 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 2:09 am

Not going to happen.

countryboi · Post #10 » by **countryboi** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 2:17 am

this is crap....jordan has been trying to tear it down and rebuild since the day he cut dampier...and this whole turn a profit idea just not going to happen the best he can hope for is to break even....no one buys a NBA team with the idea of turning a profit its pretty much a rich mans toy

expo · Post #11 » by **expo** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 2:37 am

Meh, I think the value of most franchises increases year to year regardless of not turning a "profit". I also think it is in this aspect that most small market teams are attractive and why people continue to buy them. The idea that having a net profit at the end of the year is the be all and end all seems kind of stupid for a small market owner.

therebirth · Post #12 » by **therebirth** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 5:36 am

LOL at anybody who believes this story. The guy has been hating on mj for a while now.

captaincrunk · Post #13 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 6:27 am

countryboi wrote:this is crap....jordan has been trying to tear it down and rebuild since the day he cut dampier...and this whole turn a profit idea just not going to happen the best he can hope for is to break even....no one buys a NBA team with the idea of turning a profit its pretty much a rich mans toy

lollockout

countryboi · Post #14 » by **countryboi** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 7:30 am

captaincrunk wrote:
countryboi wrote:this is crap....jordan has been trying to tear it down and rebuild since the day he cut dampier...and this whole turn a profit idea just not going to happen the best he can hope for is to break even....no one buys a NBA team with the idea of turning a profit its pretty much a rich mans toy

lollockout

and even with the lockout most teams are still not turning a profit...hell they are not even breaking even

captaincrunk · Post #15 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 8:40 am

countryboi wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
countryboi wrote:this is crap....jordan has been trying to tear it down and rebuild since the day he cut dampier...and this whole turn a profit idea just not going to happen the best he can hope for is to break even....no one buys a NBA team with the idea of turning a profit its pretty much a rich mans toy

lollockout

and even with the lockout most teams are still not turning a profit...hell they are not even breaking even

Doesn't mean they don't want to be. They were willing to put their "toy" on the shelf for an entire year over the money. Don't think it means nothing at all to them.

Fred Williamson · Post #16 » by **Fred Williamson** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 8:57 am

bobcats haters on the GB are going to have a field day with this

Fred Williamson · Post #17 » by **Fred Williamson** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 9:03 am

Fred Williamson wrote:bobcats haters on the GB are going to have a field day with this

oh, there's already a 7+ pages thread about it

Nanogeek · Post #18 » by **Nanogeek** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:24 pm

Bobcats don't really need MJ. He's done nothing to show he is a particularly valuable owner. No players are deciding to come here because of him. He hasn't shown any shrewdness except perhaps in getting Cho. It doesn't take much skill to strip down a team as has been done. Throwing Chandler away for nothing didn't take much skill. I read this story about him wanting to sell if the team doesn't turn around and I don't see why I care much.

Fred Williamson · Post #19 » by **Fred Williamson** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 1:01 pm

Nanogeek wrote:Bobcats don't really need MJ. He's done nothing to show he is a particularly valuable owner. No players are deciding to come here because of him. He hasn't shown any shrewdness except perhaps in getting Cho. It doesn't take much skill to strip down a team as has been done. Throwing Chandler away for nothing didn't take much skill. I read this story about him wanting to sell if the team doesn't turn around and I don't see why I care much.

he has done "nothing"? are you serious? Look at the attendance in the arena, the advertisment deals, etc. Apart from that, this is what? his second year as an owner? Do you people expect him to build a championchip contender within 2 years? Come on man, you can't be that stupid.

And how can you throw away something that had nothing of value to begin with. Chandler didn't want to play here, pretended to be "injured", and was outplayed by Theo Ratliff and Nazr Mohammed.

Nanogeek · Post #20 » by **Nanogeek** » Sun Apr 1, 2012 1:40 pm

Fred Williamson wrote:
Nanogeek wrote:Bobcats don't really need MJ. He's done nothing to show he is a particularly valuable owner. No players are deciding to come here because of him. He hasn't shown any shrewdness except perhaps in getting Cho. It doesn't take much skill to strip down a team as has been done. Throwing Chandler away for nothing didn't take much skill. I read this story about him wanting to sell if the team doesn't turn around and I don't see why I care much.

he has done "nothing"? are you serious?

I didn't say he has done nothing. I said "he's done nothing to show he is a particularly valuable owner."

Look at the attendance in the arena, the advertisment deals, etc.

Advertising? Do you think advertising was some sort of stroke of genius? "Hey guys, because I'm a marketing genius I've decided we should advertise to increase customers!" Like I said, "he's done nothing to show he is a particularly valuable owner." The fact the first thing you come up with is marketing 101 just supports my point.

Apart from that, this is what? his second year as an owner? Do you people expect him to build a championchip contender within 2 years? Come on man, you can't be that stupid.

Its ironic you are talking about stupidity when you can't seem to parse English properly. What he has done so far could have been done by any owner. Anyone can give away players. Anyone can trade talent away for crap. I'll repeat it again since the statement seem to befuddle you the first time.... "He's done nothing to show he is a particularly valuable owner."

And how can you throw away something that had nothing of value to begin with. Chandler didn't want to play here, pretended to be "injured", and was outplayed by Theo Ratliff and Nazr Mohammed.

Fine. But a shrewd manager would have realized he would be of value to a contender and extracted something of value from them. Instead he extracted nothing from Dallas and actually extracted negative value in my opinion since if we had kept Chandler on the books we'd be rid of his salary by now. Because of MJ's "genius" we've still got Matt Carroll on the books through 2013 and Najera through this year.

Read what I post and then respond to that - it works better that way.