10 day contracts - frustration with front office

Post #1 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:21 am

tonight the wizards got 37 points and 12 rebounds out of two players on 10 day contracts - james singleton and cartier martin.

on the other side of the court, the bobcats played with only 10 players, with 5 out to injury, with an open roster spot created by waiving boris diaw.

both teams have a similar goal, to play towards the future.

considering we have had an open roster spot for almost a month, consider how bad we are, considering we only have 10 healthy players, considering the condensed season which sees us playing 6 games in 8 days, considering this team has lost all motivation and the losing is obviously taking its toll on the team including our rookies, considering all of this, frankly i am a bit disgusted that we are so cheap, so lazy and/or so concerned with finishing last that we can't be bothered with giving a few young players a 10 day contract.

there is zero downside to adding a player to a 10 day contract, other than a small bit of coin lost.

is anyone else frustrated that we haven't tried to bring anyone in to fill diaw's roster spot?

HornetJail · Post #2 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:24 am

I wanted T-Will. Actually anyone, really.

Eoghan · Post #3 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:35 am

fatlever wrote:is anyone else frustrated that we haven't tried to bring anyone in to fill diaw's roster spot?

Yeah, I don't get it. They better have a damn good reason.

Liver_Pooty · Post #4 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:24 am

The reason is simple. Jordan is not going to pay anyone (no matter how little the dollar amount would be) for a 7 win team. Unless Cho tells him a Jeremy Lin is out there good luck.

TheKingofSting · Post #5 » by **TheKingofSting** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:39 am

fatlever wrote:is anyone else frustrated that we haven't tried to bring anyone in to fill diaw's roster spot?

They don't want anyone to come in and Higgins Jr feel threatened.

captaincrunk · Post #6 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:28 am

yeah why bother? we don't want to win any games

Post #7 » by **Diop** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:38 am

Do it for the interest level at least. I can barely stand watching the crap we role out, might as well add some variety.

I would have liked to have given Armon Johnson a go. He would be competing with HIggins though

captaincrunk · Post #8 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:56 am

Sachmo wrote:Do it for the interest level at least. I can barely stand watching the crap we role out, might as well add some variety.

I would have liked to have given Armon Johnson a go. He would be competing with HIggins though

i only watch fun games

Post #9 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:59 am

captaincrunk wrote:yeah why bother? we don't want to win any games

nobody is going to finish with a worse record than us at this point. thats not an excuse. we are so far in the lead for the worst record. so why not bring in a player to get a look. you cant find a jeremy lin if you dont bring them in. this team also needs a little spark. a dleague superstar might just give the team a little life for these last 10 games. also, it might give some of these guys logging 30+ on back to backs a little rest.

why not just forfeit the rest of the games?

Elden Payton · Post #10 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:53 am

Honestly why not?

Terrence Williams would have been worth a look.

Post #11 » by **Diop** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:55 am

He seems to be doing pretty well at the Kings so far.

I would have to think its the character thing that would have stopped Cho from having a look at him.

But character and building a good culture is even more reason to sign some 10 day contracts. Get some D leaguers and play them ahead of the veterans who aren't buying in. Just play the players who are showing the right character.

LamarMatic7 · Post #12 » by **LamarMatic7** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:09 pm

Honestly, I'd love them to bring in someone like Ricky Davis for 10 days. What's the worst thing that could happen? Only a lot of LolCats moments would come out of this, something we need after a very forgettable start to April. I'm pretty sure he would drop 20 in at least one game.

Snidely FC · Post #13 » by **Snidely FC** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:35 pm

I've been lamenting this for a while now, esp when the Cats guaranteed Higgins at the deadline instead of using his spot to tryout new players. It was obvious, for instance, paying attention to the D league this yr, that Gerald Green was a different player than the one who washed out of the NBA and would be worth trying (NJ grabbed him a mth before we waived Boris).

One guy I championed earlier this season and still like is Elijah Milsap:

"Millsap (6-6, 215, Alabama-Birmingham) led the D-Fenders to a 3-0 record last week, helping to etch the D-Fenders in the NBA D-League record books, as the team finished the 2011-12 regular season with a 38-12 record, the best in NBA D-League history. During the week, Millsap averaged 22.3 points, 11.3 rebounds and 3.0 assists. He shot 42 percent from the field and 56 percent from three-point range. He began the week with a season-high 32 points on April 4 in a 111-98 win over the Reno Bighorns, before finishing with two double-doubles to end the regular season on April 6 and 7. In 41 games, 33 starts, for the D-Fenders this season, Millsap is averaging 19.4 points, 6.3 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 1.9 steals and 33.0 minutes. The 2012 NBA D-League All-Star has scored in double-figures 38 times, recorded five double-doubles and two triple-doubles."

The point is there is no shortage of interesting players to take a look at. 10 Days. Yeah, there's a reason these guys are in the D League, but it's not like you're committing to anything. Give us something to watch!

Here is a link to the D League "Hot Prospect" page. Click on the weekly links to read about top prospects.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/prospec ... 01112.html

ohara · Post #14 » by **ohara** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:49 pm

Only 3 weeks left. We want the best odds for the #1 pick, so winning is not a prioity. And MJ does not want to spend any more money. No reason to expect we would sign anyone at this stage. We dont care about getting better at this moment. That is the sad reality of the Bobcats at this time. Just give us Davis, and we can see if Kemba and Biyombo improve. Hope Mullens continues his vast improvement, and hope Hendo can play respectable ball, We will have cap room, so mayble with Davis and our other young ones, we sign a FA who can help us challenge for a Playoff spot.

dmutombo321 · Post #15 » by **dmutombo321** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:00 pm

They missed the boat on T-Will. After the showing he's had in Sac, he'll get a multi-year offer from someone this off-season.

Post #16 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:22 pm

ohara wrote:Only 3 weeks left. We want the best odds for the #1 pick, so winning is not a prioity. And MJ does not want to spend any more money. No reason to expect we would sign anyone at this stage. We dont care about getting better at this moment. That is the sad reality of the Bobcats at this time. Just give us Davis, and we can see if Kemba and Biyombo improve. Hope Mullens continues his vast improvement, and hope Hendo can play respectable ball, We will have cap room, so mayble with Davis and our other young ones, we sign a FA who can help us challenge for a Playoff spot.

we have the worst record wrapped up (not mathematically, but outside of a miracle, we arent passing anyone in the standings). losing to gain odds is no longer a concern.

we are down to 10 healthy players - several of which are not even NBA bench quality (carroll, tyrus, higgins). we are putting a tremendous strain on the few healthy players - hendo, kemba, biz, mully, ups and white - especially with the condensed schedule. biz has clearly hit the rookie wall and could use less minutes over the remainder of the season.

i just think that the benefits outweigh the costs at this point. a small investment in a 10 day contract could prove very beneficial in the long term development of this team, preventing injuries or wear and tear.

and what does losing by 30 to the wizards at home do to the psyche of these young players? they need help, just to even be remotely competitive these last 3 weeks.

or else, why bother playing

also, for those of us spending money on season tickets, i think the front office at least owes it to us to at least attempt to put a half way competitive team on the floor.

what we have now is not acceptable, even for a last place team trying to tank for #1 pick. its not good enough.

dmutombo321 · Post #17 » by **dmutombo321** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:25 pm

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TheKingofSting · Post #18 » by **TheKingofSting** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:31 pm

Eh, seriously, MJ should have forked over a little of his gambling money for a player or two on a 10 day (at least one). fats is right on the account that we are stuck in last place which means we are doomed to pick 4th so unless Cho has a trade down for 2 picks rabbit to pull out of his hat, the entire plan of this season might have blown up in our faces.

captaincrunk · Post #19 » by **captaincrunk** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:57 am

I just don't care anymore. I didn't even watch the wizards game. Neither did any of our players, clearly.

Snidely FC · Post #20 » by **Snidely FC** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:37 am

BTW the minimum salary a 10-day contract can offer is the # of days in the contract (10) divided by the # of days in the regular season (about 120 this yr) multiplied by the minimum annual salary ($490,189 this yr). Note that 10-day does not mean 10 games.

So, about $40K to try somebody out for 10 days. If MJ can't afford that he should sell the team.