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Sam Vincent, he still mad.
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:37 am
by Eoghan
Anyone read ol' Bonnell's article on Sam Vincent the other day?
http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2012/04/on-sam-vincent-michael-jordan-and-credibility.htmlI had to post this part:
Vincent was fired as Bobcats coach in April 2008, after a single 32-50 season. Clearly, he’s still bitter about that because a few weeks ago he sent me an unsolicited email full of sarcasm. He claimed my negativity got him fired and that if he still coached the Bobcats, they would be winning 50 games this season.
50 games!!! Surely not with this roster!?! Now that is delusional.
Re: Sam Vincent, he still mad.
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:01 am
by vorbis
i sure did. nice to know that fine ham biscuit wasn't a fluke in his tenure at charlotte. he is a real deal stupid turd.
Re: Sam Vincent, he still mad.
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:00 pm
by Jeff23
As a huge Sam Vincent fan, this saddens me to death. I will forever have a place in my heart for him for letting my man Matt Carroll play how Matt plays.
Re: Sam Vincent, he still mad.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:26 am
by therebirth
The Bulls are in Charlotte this week to face what is becoming one of the worst seasons ever. The worst ever season was the 1972-73 Philadelphia 76ers are 9-73, a percentage of .110. The Bobcats are 7-52 for .118, and if they lose out, which is quite possible the way they have been blown out for the last few weeks, they’ll be 7-59 and a winning percentage of slightly less than those infamous 76ers. Plus, it would be a 23-game losing streak to end the season. The symmetry has been painfully obvious in being Michael Jordan’s number, and there’s been debate of late about Jordan’s competency as an executive. Former Bobcats coach Sam Vincent got caught up in it with a Washington Post story quoted questioning Jordan’s work ethic. I caught up with Vincent, who now is a chapter director for the retired players’ association, and he was a bit embarrassed. He said he was misunderstood in his comments and they really didn’t reflect his opinions regarding Jordan and the Bobcats. Actually, Vincent said if the context were better he would have explained he thinks Jordan is actually doing things the right way now and he believes there are big things ahead for the Bobcats.
“I’d like to set the record straight and admit I didn’t do the best job expressing myself,” said Vincent. “I don’t know if there was an agenda regarding Michael, but I feel my answers were used out of context. Yes, there were times Michael was criticized for not being involved.
“But I will tell you this,” Vincent continued, “There is going to be a very fortunate man coaching the Bobcats soon. I love what Michael is doing and the patience he is showing in building what I think will be a winner. I will always appreciate the experience I gained while working with the Bobcats organization and the insights MJ shared with me during my season as head coach. He was always there when I had a question or concern.
“The route MJ is taking isn’t popular, but it’s the right thing,” said Vincent. “He had a team built around good, but not great players in Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace, and had a ceiling of just making the playoffs. That’s nice for an ongoing story during the season, but it’s dishonest with your fans. MJ is about winning and winning big. He’s been adding talented, young players through the draft and is in position to land a high level player in a good draft this season. He hasn’t been impatient and gone recklessly into free agency for a quick fix player and he has a nice management team in place now. He’s positioned himself well under the salary cap and players will want to play in Charlotte.
“I know people like to beat up Michael about some of his picks,” said Vincent. “But a big part of being a great executive is being lucky, and Michael hasn’t been. They say he picked Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison. OK, look at those drafts. After Kwame was Tyson Chandler, who took before four or five teams to get it. Then Pau Gasol, who was good, but then Eddy Curry. And how about when he picked Morrison. Andrea Bargnani was No. 1, and then the Bulls could have had LaMarcus Aldridge but traded him for Tyrus Thomas. What about right after Michael the Hawks picking Shelden Williams? Would Oklahoma City have Durant if they were No. 1. Or Greg Oden? Should the Bulls have Derrick Rose with the ninth best odds in the lottery? What about the Spurs and Tim Duncan? Where would they be if the Celtics, who had the best odds, got Duncan and where would Rick Pitino be if he got Duncan instead of Chauncey Billups? So Michael is hardly alone in not being fortunate. But I think he’s due. I loved living in Charlotte. It’s a great sports town and a great basketball area. I think we will look back some day and wonder why we questioned what Michael could do. Though we did before as a player and I think he showed us pretty well. After all, when we played in the McDonald’s game, it was me who was the star and he was the guy we were wondering how good he could be.”
Can you say retract
Re: Sam Vincent, he still mad.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:30 am
by vorbis
you know, as panic ass-covering goes, i'd say he didn't miss a spot. i'll give him that.
Re: Sam Vincent, he still mad.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:03 pm
by penquin11
Vincent may have been a dumbass coach- but I don't trust the media enough to lay all the blame on him. The media is pretty damn evil now adays- and his "ass-covering" seems almost too good to be entirely panic ass covering- I think he said some things that he didn't intend to or said things that he ought not to have- but I doubt he took it to the degree that the original report claimed.
Re: Sam Vincent, he still mad.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:03 pm
by bobcats3wallace
Second report from Vincent is very true and very insightful. He's not cut out to be an NBA Head Coach, but I do appreciate his kind words and insights. Like penguin11 said, while some might be to cover up what he might had said in anger, he went into far too much detail for me to believe the whole thing was about covering up what he said previously. Lets hope Vincent is right in all accounts in the future.
Re: Sam Vincent, he still mad.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:33 am
by captaincrunk
bonnell being a twat, or vincent being a twat? Probably a little of both, yes?
Re: Sam Vincent, he still mad.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:26 am
by Elden Payton
bobcats3wallace wrote:Second report from Vincent is very true and very insightful. He's not cut out to be an NBA Head Coach, but I do appreciate his kind words and insights. Like penguin11 said, while some might be to cover up what he might had said in anger, he went into far too much detail for me to believe the whole thing was about covering up what he said previously. Lets hope Vincent is right in all accounts in the future.
While I was reading Vincents retract this is exactly what I was thinking.