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If we decide to trade the #2 pick for a young(ish) player or a combination of picks, who would you like for us to target?

considering we could package some expiring contracts like diop and carroll with the pick, we should have any problem taking back salary for a pick.

(i am just brainstorming here, not endorsing any of these)

Trading for Picks

#4 and #24 from Cavs

#6 and #11 from Blazers

#7 and #30 (plus more) from Warriors

#1 from Hornets (what would you give up besides #2?)

Trading for Players



derrick williams - safe to say his rookie season was underwhelming. would you prefer williams over the likes of MKG, beal or robinson? seems both beal and MKG would be a better fit for the wolves. is he a small forward or a power forward?

evan turner - turner seems like he would be a great fit with kemba, since turner can act almost like a point forward. the sixers could really use a guy like beal to help spread the floor since iggy and holiday arent really shooters.

tyreke evans - the kings were rumored to be shopping evans. he doesnt seem to fit on that team now that they have cousins. they need to surround cousins with shooters and play inside out. evans needs the ball in his hands all the time to be effective. evans still has franchise type potential, maybe, if he can find the right situation. how would he and kemba co-exist though?

kyle lowry - if the rockets have to choose between lowry and dragic, maybe they decide to move lowry on draft night to clear the way for dragic. lowry is a top 10 pg when healthy and young enough to still improve. i'd hate to waste this pick on another pg, but lowry is a clear upgrade over kemba. kemba probably has enough value to get a decent return in a trade as well.

paul george - this one is way out of left field, but rumors suggest the pacers might be interested in going after eric gordon this summer. do they have minutes for gordon, george and granger? in an perfect world they would probably want to trade granger but i doubt anyone will jump on that contract. the pacers could then add mkg to eventually take over behind granger. gordon and mkg would be a great combo.

derrick favors/enes kanter - (see jefferson) too many bigs, not enough minutes. maybe the jazz figure they wont be able to move jefferson and would rather just part with one of their 2 young bigs. in return they can go with beal or MKG (not likley since they just drafted hayward and burkes and seem high on both). this would be much more likely if this draft had a point guard worthy of a top 5 pick.

steph curry - the warriors see the writing on the wall and decide they cant afford to pin their hopes on curry's ankle. they look to fill his spot with a free agent in the summer. they are scared to give curry big money when his contract is up. the bobcats jump at the chance to land a player who, when healthy is better than anything other than davis in this draft. the added bonus of being able to resign curry makes them gamble on the ankle (after getting inside info from dell that the ankle is good to go). maybe expand the deal to include kemba heading back to GS with their pick coming back to charlotte. something like curry + #7 to charlotte for kemba + #2 to GS.

al jefferson - the jazz have to trade one of jefferson or milsap to make room for favors and kanter. we have never had a true low post option on this team. jefferson also seems to fit well next to biz. downside is his big salary and history of losing. would you take on his salary in exchange for our pick + filler?

andrew bynum - lakers obviously need to go in a different direction, would they be tempted to unload bynum and his contract for someone like robinson, drummond or beal? assuming we absorbed some of his salary or traded back players on a shorter deal they could also get some salary relief. i doubt #2 would be enough, probably have to give more, maybe hendo or kemba.

that's all i can think of right now. what other deals could be on the table? yes, no or maybe on these?

This thread is depressing. None of those names are appealing right now. Everyone is focused on winning the lottery and drafting Anthony Davis. Last thing I want to think about is Al Jefferson. I'd rather just keep the #2 pick, finish with the worst record and try our luck at the wheel next May.

Wonder if the Lakers would be willing to part with Bynum. Bynum is a guy you can build around and they seem to be up and down on him. I realize it will likely take more than the pick itself, but thoughts?

Rich4114 wrote:Wonder if the Lakers would be willing to part with Bynum. Bynum is a guy you can build around and they seem to be up and down on him. I realize it will likely take more than the pick itself, but thoughts?

Oh God, I'm even more depressed. Bynum can never stay healthy. No thanks. He isn't a team leader.




Please God, lets us have Anthony Davis.

Someone on the draft board mentioned a Kyle Lowry and 2 picks in the teens for our pick if it fell in the 2-4 range.

That would have to be tempting.

fatlever wrote:al jefferson - the jazz have to trade one of jefferson or milsap to make room for favors and kanter. we have never had a true low post option on this team. jefferson also seems to fit well next to biz. downside is his big salary and history of losing. would you take on his salary in exchange for our pick + filler?

No chance.

derrick williams - safe to say his rookie season was underwhelming. would you prefer williams over the likes of MKG, beal or robinson? seems both beal and MKG would be a better fit for the wolves. is he a small forward or a power forward?

Eh I really, really don't like 3-4 tweeners. I can't think of any that have worked out in recent memory. Thad Young? Beasley?

evan turner - turner seems like he would be a great fit with kemba, since turner can act almost like a point forward. the sixers could really use a guy like beal to help spread the floor since iggy and holiday arent really shooters.

I'd consider this one. I've been really down on Turner, but he has impressed me much more than 6'10 Paul George has this year/playoffs.

tyreke evans - the kings were rumored to be shopping evans. he doesnt seem to fit on that team now that they have cousins. they need to surround cousins with shooters and play inside out. evans needs the ball in his hands all the time to be effective. evans still has franchise type potential, maybe, if he can find the right situation. how would he and kemba co-exist though?

I can't figure him out. Has he regressed thanks to injuries? because the other teams have tape on him now? Or because he doesn't have the BBIQ to improve on his natural talent? He's skilled, and "worth" a top 4 pick, but I just don't think I could justify it to myself. I wouldn't be mad, but I wouldn't actively look to make the trade.

kyle lowry - if the rockets have to choose between lowry and dragic, maybe they decide to move lowry on draft night to clear the way for dragic. lowry is a top 10 pg when healthy and young enough to still improve. i'd hate to waste this pick on another pg, but lowry is a clear upgrade over kemba. kemba probably has enough value to get a decent return in a trade as well.

Isn't he up for a new contract? Or is that Dragic? If he's signed long-term, I'd pull the trigger on this one.

paul george - this one is way out of left field, but rumors suggest the pacers might be interested in going after eric gordon this summer. do they have minutes for gordon, george and granger? in an perfect world they would probably want to trade granger but i doubt anyone will jump on that contract. the pacers could then add mkg to eventually take over behind granger. gordon and mkg would be a great combo.

I'd rather have Beal/Lamb/Robinson/Gilchrist.

ed davis - this is a reach, since i figure even the 4th pick has much more value than davis. this would have to be part of a bigger deal, maybe for the raptors to switch picks with us.

Not a chance in hell unless they switch picks with us AND take a bad contract.

derrick favors/enes kanter - (see jefferson) too many bigs, not enough minutes. maybe the jazz figure they wont be able to move jefferson and would rather just part with one of their 2 young bigs. in return they can go with beal or MKG (not likley since they just drafted hayward and burkes and seem high on both). this would be much more likely if this draft had a point guard worthy of a top 5 pick.

Not really a fan of these guys

steph curry - the warriors see the writing on the wall and decide they cant afford to pin their hopes on curry's ankle. they look to fill his spot with a free agent in the summer. they are scared to give curry big money when his contract is up. the bobcats jump at the chance to land a player who, when healthy is better than anything other than davis in this draft. the added bonus of being able to resign curry makes them gamble on the ankle (after getting inside info from dell that the ankle is good to go). maybe expand the deal to include kemba heading back to GS with their pick coming back to charlotte. something like curry + #7 to charlotte for kemba + #2 to GS.

Before his injuries, I'd be all over trading for him. But this is his second year in a row with the same injuries and it doesn't seem to be getting better. I'd probably stay away

I'd give the #2-4 for DeMarcus Cousins in a heartbeat. Would go Favors for a small favor from Utah. Maybe a second rounder or we do a Mags/Harris swap to save some money.

something like curry + #7 to charlotte for kemba + #2 to GS.

Get Golden State to throw in my man Charles Jenkins and I love this deal if Curry accepts a sixth-man role. He's too fragile to play 35-40 minutes a night. We have a chance to get Lamb at #7 or we can try to trade down even further.

Sachmo wrote:Someone on the draft board mentioned a Kyle Lowry and 2 picks in the teens for our pick if it fell in the 2-4 range.

That would have to be tempting.

Houston has 14 and 16. That and Lowry is pretty tempting. Quincy Miller should be available in that range. Add a guard or forward with the other pick for depth and there you go.

SWedd523 wrote:I can't figure him out. Has he regressed thanks to injuries? because the other teams have tape on him now? Or because he doesn't have the BBIQ to improve on his natural talent? He's skilled, and "worth" a top 4 pick, but I just don't think I could justify it to myself. I wouldn't be mad, but I wouldn't actively look to make the trade.

He's having to play with a bunch of ball-dominate guards. It's just a poor fit.

I'd like to have him here. Would prefer Cousins though.

Agree with Jaruff on Cousins.

As far as Evans goes I think he has been mismanaged in Sacramento. Not wise to jerk around a young playet from PG to SG then SF.

What I'd want in exchange for the #2 pick:

-Lowry + 14th- both 1sts (14 and 16) would be ideal, but I can't see HOU parting with both picks and Lowry)
-Cousins (we would have to throw more in though)
-Evan Turner, #15, #54 for both CHA picks
-Paul George
-Both of Portland's picks (#6 and #11)
-Both of NO's picks (#4 and #10) and Okafor for #2, #31, Kemba, Maggette
-Gallinari and #20
-Derrick Williams and #18
-Dudley, Lopez, #13, future 1st

the only one worse than turner on that list is ed davis

captaincrunk wrote:the only one worse than turner on that list is ed davis

a lot of scrubs have been listed in this thread except for Cousins, point blank period we should keep our pick unless its landing someone whos under 21 with massive potential, the derrick williams, gordon haywards, evan turners, need not apply, they're 3rd options at best. and crunks finally out of the pin

1) Cousins
2) Bynum
3) John Wall

Stun704 wrote:

captaincrunk wrote:the only one worse than turner on that list is ed davis

a lot of scrubs have been listed in this thread except for Cousins, point blank period we should keep our pick unless its landing someone whos under 21 with massive potential, the derrick williams, gordon haywards, evan turners, need not apply, they're 3rd options at best. and crunks finally out of the pin

1) Cousins
2) Bynum
3) John Wall

I think the word you're looking for is "pen". As in penitentiary. I don't know what it would mean to be in a "pin".

Tyreke, Jefferson, Lowry, George, Gallo, Derrick Williams, etc are not scrubs. And they all have decent size. Unlike and Robinson.

captaincrunk wrote:

Stun704 wrote:

captaincrunk wrote:the only one worse than turner on that list is ed davis

a lot of scrubs have been listed in this thread except for Cousins, point blank period we should keep our pick unless its landing someone whos under 21 with massive potential, the derrick williams, gordon haywards, evan turners, need not apply, they're 3rd options at best. and crunks finally out of the pin

1) Cousins
2) Bynum
3) John Wall

I think the word you're looking for is "pen". As in penitentiary. I don't know what it would mean to be in a "pin".

Tyreke, Jefferson, Lowry, George, Gallo, Derrick Williams, etc are not scrubs. And they all have decent size. Unlike and Robinson.

it was a joke chill out

none of those players are worth a #2 pick nor were any of em taken #2 in their respective draft, other then Williams, who is a tweener, whom doesn't have a natural position, atleast Robinson does, and i'm not sure I would take him at #2, #3 sure, but as a prospect, Drummond has a higher ceiling then all of those players listed. Jefferson is old and would cause us to be mediocre.

Only "realistic' players i'd trade the #2-4 are

1) Bynum
2) Cousins
3) Wall
4) Curry + 2 future first rounders
5) trade down

fats never mentioned Cousins so why is everybody talking about him? Bunch of numbskulls

Cousins would be the only viable option for that pick so far on that list. Sorry but Anthony Davis cant put up the numbers that Cousins can. But the Lowry trade sounds very good. Esp if they agree to take a bad contract like Tyrus and give us one pick in the teens and both 2nds. I might do it in a heartbeat....Davis is the best player in the draft but he is def not the only allstar caliber player. Some which trickle all the way down to the mid second rd...

SWedd523 wrote:fats never mentioned Cousins so why is everybody talking about him? Bunch of numbskulls

i didnt include cousins because i figured the kings would consider his value higher than #2 now that he seems to be getting along with the coach. for me cousins or MKG/beal/robinson, its cousins and its not even close, even with the maturity problems.

@ char 77 - gallinari is a good one. i didnt think of him. he should be on the list. he is in the same value range, imo, as guys like turner, williams, george, lowry etc...

@ swedd - dragic is the one up for a new contract. lowry has 2 years left at 12 mil.

@ swedd - so ed davis + #8 for #4 is a no way deal? i dont really have an opinion on this one. i didnt see enough of davis last year to really gauge where he is at in terms of development. but lets say we liked lamb over beal and thought we could get him at 8, why not?

@ stun - i think bynum, cousins, wall would all have value higher than a #2 - #4 pick in this draft.

An extended James Harden.

i think some might be undervaluing a guy like turner. he showed some spurts of what he can do this year. the guy is a good defender, a great rebounder and can play 1, 2 or 3. he needs to have the ball in his hands. put him on a team where he isnt competing with guys like iggy, holiday and williams for that creative role and i think he would shine. i think his value is every bit as high as someone like beal or robinson. he'll never be a #1 scoring option, but i doubt we'd find that in 2-4 anyway. i think i would take turner over beal and robinson and drummond, maybe not over MKG.

lets look at this a different way

which team says no to these trades? us or them? both say no? both say yes?

#2 for:
1. kanter
2. favors
3. turner
4. cousins
5. evans
6. curry
7. lowry
8. gallinari
9. george
10. der williams