Trade Idea with Knicks

Greenie · Post #1 » by **Greenie** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:05 pm

greenhughes wrote:New York Trades:
STAT
Tony Douglas
Future 2nd rd pick

Charlotte Trades:
DJ Augustin(re-signed for 5mil/yr)
Reggie Williams
Tyrus Thomas
Future 1st rd pick
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New York Lineup:
Chandler
Thomas
Anthony
Shumpert
Lin

Charlotte Lineup:
Stoudemire
Biyombo
Kidd-Gilchrist
Henderson
Walker

Win-Win for both teams.

What do you guys think?

Kabookalu · Post #2 » by **Kabookalu** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:07 pm

Terrible. Might as well draft Robinson who may not be as good as a scorer at this very moment, but will play defense and rebound the ball and is much younger without a crippling contract.

SWedd523 · Post #3 » by **SWedd523** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:07 pm

Greenie · Post #4 » by **Greenie** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:12 pm

Do you guys remember STAT last year with-out Melo when he was the go to guy and was playing Center?

He was in the MVP discussion.

STAT and Melo can't play together.
He would be your #1 option.
Biyombo would guard Centers.
Imagine a P&R between Walker and STAT.

Eoghan · Post #5 » by **Eoghan** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:29 pm

Just say no to trading future firsts for declining stars.

Fred Williamson · Post #6 » by **Fred Williamson** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:30 pm

greenhughes wrote:Do you guys remember STAT last year with-out Melo when he was the go to guy and was playing Center?

He was in the MVP discussion.

STAT and Melo can't play together.
He would be your #1 option.
Biyombo would guard Centers.
Imagine a P&R between Walker and STAT.

last year was quite a while ago. that's like 365 days.

Geaux_Hawks · Post #7 » by **Geaux_Hawks** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:49 pm

For what you would be giving up, why not. It's not like free agents are pouring into Charlotte. With Kidd Gilchrist, Henderson, Biyombo, and Kemba all developing, might as well prove that Amare can't play with Melo and maybe get something out of it. If not, you can still build as you were.

doc.end · Post #8 » by **doc.end** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:50 pm

I am tempeted to say Tyrus Thomas > STAT and insist to be sigged. That's how out of place the scenario is. You haven't done your research at all - rules, picks, positions of players, their value, form, health, insurance,...

Eoghan · Post #9 » by **Eoghan** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:53 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:For what you would be giving up, why not. It's not like free agents are pouring into Charlotte. With Kidd Gilchrist, Henderson, Biyombo, and Kemba all developing, might as well prove that Amare can't play with Melo and maybe get something out of it. If not, you can still build as you were.

If Amare punched a glass pane from being frustrated in NY during a playoff game, he's likely to jump headfirst into a train playing for us.

doc.end · Post #10 » by **doc.end** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:54 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:For what you would be giving up, why not. It's not like free agents are pouring into Charlotte. With Kidd Gilchrist, Henderson, Biyombo, and Kemba all developing, might as well prove that Amare can't play with Melo and maybe get something out of it. If not, you can still build as you were.

doc.end · Post #11 » by **doc.end** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:01 am

BrotherDave wrote:
Geaux_Hawks wrote:For what you would be giving up, why not. It's not like free agents are pouring into Charlotte. With Kidd Gilchrist, Henderson, Biyombo, and Kemba all developing, might as well prove that Amare can't play with Melo and maybe get something out of it. If not, you can still build as you were.

If Amare punched a glass pane from being frustrated in NY during a playoff game, he's likely to jump headfirst into a train playing for us.

I even forget about that. Phew, he is going to have no knees,wear protective glasses, he has one healthy hand and obviously not the sharpest brain. What's next. No wonder there are insurance issues. Oh and he doesn't like Charlotte on top of that.

On another hand (no pun intended) Tyrus Thomas startng for Knicks would be a fine comic gig, a thing to witness and a good story to tell your grandchildren.

Greenie · Post #12 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:04 am

doc.end wrote:I am tempeted to say Tyrus Thomas > STAT and insist to be sigged. That's how out of place the scenario is. You haven't done your research at all - rules, picks, positions of players, their value, form, health, insurance,...

What are you talking about? STAT and his knees are fine. He's frustrated with not getting the ball (his hand).

Would you trade Thomas and Williams for STAT? That's the base of the trade.
Augustin is a free agent
Take the pick out if you want.

STAT can still be a very good #1, he just does not play well with Melo.
What scorer do you have on your team, and what scorer are you getting in this draft?

JMAC3 · Post #13 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:10 am

greenhughes wrote:
doc.end wrote:I am tempeted to say Tyrus Thomas > STAT and insist to be sigged. That's how out of place the scenario is. You haven't done your research at all - rules, picks, positions of players, their value, form, health, insurance,...

What are you talking about? STAT and his knees are fine. He's frustrated with not getting the ball (his hand).

Would you trade Thomas and Williams for STAT? That's the base of the trade.
Augustin is a free agent
Take the pick out if you want.

STAT can still be a very good #1, he just does not play well with Melo.
What scorer do you have on your team, and what scorer are you getting in this draft?

If he is so great, you should be able to get more from another team... Why is that all you want back if he is so awesome... Why not trade him to Houston for a PG or to a late lottery team...

You clearly are defending how awesome he is, but yet basically giving him away...

Can't play with Melo.... Nobody can play with Melo get used to it... He is a ball hog and has no playmaking ability...

Greenie · Post #14 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:20 am

JMAC3 wrote:
greenhughes wrote:
doc.end wrote:I am tempeted to say Tyrus Thomas > STAT and insist to be sigged. That's how out of place the scenario is. You haven't done your research at all - rules, picks, positions of players, their value, form, health, insurance,...

What are you talking about? STAT and his knees are fine. He's frustrated with not getting the ball (his hand).

Would you trade Thomas and Williams for STAT? That's the base of the trade.
Augustin is a free agent
Take the pick out if you want.

STAT can still be a very good #1, he just does not play well with Melo.
What scorer do you have on your team, and what scorer are you getting in this draft?

If he is so great, you should be able to get more from another team... Why is that all you want back if he is so awesome... Why not trade him to Houston for a PG or to a late lottery team...

You clearly are defending how awesome he is, but yet basically giving him away...

Can't play with Melo.... Nobody can play with Melo get used to it... He is a ball hog and has no playmaking ability...

Why are you so mad?
Do you need a hug :kiss

The players I put in the trade don't need the ball to be effective, they play better off-ball. That would be ideal for Melo.

doc.end · Post #15 » by **doc.end** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:28 am

Amare is untradeable. Unless very dumb GM happens. We both know it.

Jaruff · Post #16 » by **Jaruff** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:33 am

doc.end wrote:Amare is untradeable. Unless very dumb GM happens. We both know it.

Not true at all.

They just need to throw in Linsanity to make it happen. :nod:

Greenie · Post #17 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:36 am

Jaruff wrote:
doc.end wrote:Amare is untradeable. Unless very dumb GM happens. We both know it.

Not true at all.

They just need to throw in Linsanity to make it happen.

and I would give him up but Dolan won't

Post #18 » by **BigSlam** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:38 am

If his contract wasn't so laughable then it would be something to consider but as it stands it's a massive
pass.

Plus Amare is a bum.

SWedd523 · Post #19 » by **SWedd523** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:40 am

Still no

Greenie · Post #20 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:47 am

BigSlam wrote:If his contract wasn't so laughable then it would be something to consider but as it stands it's a massive
pass.

Plus Amare is a bum.

no he's not

A 6'11'' scoring big is hard to find. The Knicks just happen to have a ball hogging SF that won't share the ball(I say that with love). STAT will be traded I just don't know where. It makes sense for you guys because you lost out on Anthony Davis. STAT and Biyombo would be a really nice starting front court (one is all offense and one is all defense). You guys also have a PG that STAT could run a P&R with in Kemba. That lineup would be formidable.