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I dont know if this should go in another existing thread or not and if so please move it....but all this stuff coming out about this complicated multi-team deal and now a mystery 4th team being involved, is it just me or does this not sound like something Cho would be or should be involved in...

This latest rumor depending on who you believe is either they are looking for a team to take Brooks or take on some other salary for a 1st but this seems to be exactly what we have been saying organization wise for the last few months....if they need to "park" a short term contract here and we get another asset then thats our current M.O. and if they are looking for a team to give up a 1st for Brooks then i would think we should atleast have interest since we own both a Portland pick and a Detroit pick, i would personally move the Por pick first cause i think the Det pick has a bettter chance of being a lottery pick....

But if we could or are involved in this thang and pick up a player like Brooks then i think its something we have to look at. He can steal minutes at PG and fits the mold of that bigger combo guard we've been looking for and his gets buckets, Gordon can also play some PG then we can rescind the QO to Augustin and have a rotation of Kemba/BG, Hendo/Brooks...

Just my opinion but this sticks out to me as being taylor made for the 'Cats way of thinking right now either way by gaining Brooks or a 1st we continue to add assets and maybe...doubt it but maybe the contracts of a Diop or Carroll have value in this deal cuz they are about to expire...

They are saying they will need a 4th team to concluse this deal. Cavs will not pay Humphries the money he wants. I know people are talking about Blair from San Antonio as he may become available. But I'd much rather have Humphries. If we can somehow get Humphries and Brooks out of this, it would be terrific.

The Clippers are now the 4th team in the proposed deal, where they take on Marshon Brooks in an exchange for a 1st rd pick.

Wish we could have gotten in on this. A first from the Clippers would only be a few spots higher than a 2nd from us.

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
The level of protection on the pick is a negotiating point. Other teams -- Charlotte, Utah, Minnesota -- may have more valuable extra picks.

There's that and then there is another report by David Aldridge that the Nets are still talking to multiple teams about them taking on Humphries instead of Cleveland. It's obvious Humphries wants a 4 year deal.

Would you do a 4 year deal with Humphries at 28 million, plus the rest of the trade? So....

4 years 28 million for Humphries + QRich + Sundiata Gaines + 1st + 3 million cash? Idk.

Qrich has this year and then next year has a player option for just over 2 million. It's not a terrible price for him, but how does he fit in? We already have Hendo/Gordon/Williams/Carroll/MKG/Taylor at the same position he plays. Can we afford to have 7 SG/SF on the roster? Perhaps you could look at trading Reggie Williams, but then that's another step. Gaines is another short PG (which he is a UFA I think, so I guess we could just not sign him). The 1st is likely to be one of NJ's, so later first. Obviously the big get here would be Humphries for about 7 million per. Not a terrible price, if that's what you could get him for.

To do this you would have to renounce DJ and UPS and you would basically have no more cap space at all left. Not sure Hump + Qrich could even fit in the cap space we would have. Probably a long shot were involved, but if we were you would almost have to refocus some pieces from our end. You would like to include DJ and Williams, if you could. Perhaps DJ to Orlando as well (I know they just signed Jameer, but he is 30) and Williams to Nets? Idk.

If we are giving away one of our picks we own, then the list for me could only include Brooks, Humphries, Earl Clark(orl) and maybe a S&T'd Daniel Orton a young center who still had potential coming our way, anything other than one(Brooks) or a combo of those players i dont know if i would...thats just for me

If we are receiving a pick then again i think you have to say we are atleast 3 yrs away from being hopefully a regular playoff team... hopefully, I would take anything that comes off the books (and doesnt kill future cap flexibility) in that 3yr range but obviously we cant fill all the roster spots and give us no room to make any other moves if needed.

That gives us more picks to play w/ we still have MC & Diop about to come off the books and BG the year after and we still have the amnesty card if needed....i think thats puttin us in a good spot for the future, i mean lets be honest if this Howard to Brooklyn thing goes down its probably more about the draft picks BRK can offer than the players they can, say if Howard didnt give specific demands on where he wanted to go i know other teams would jump to the top of the board but is a package of Brooks, Humphries & Lopez that better than a package of say Hendo, Biz, Tyrus if it wasnt for the 3 or 4 picks being added??

Dont have any confidence we may become involved. Nope.

Via Chad Ford/ESPN (via Twitter)

The Clippers have emerged as the fourth team involved in Dwight Howard trade negotiations with the Magic, Nets and Cavaliers.

Los Angeles would provide an additional first round pick in exchange for MarShon Brooks.

The Bobcats, Jazz and Wolves also could be in play for Brooks, reports Ken Berger.

ohara wrote:Dont have any confidence we may become involved. Nope.

LOl...me either buuuttt, hindsight being 20/20, would it have not been a better deal to keep Maggette and get a younger, bigger guard in Brooks on a rookie contract?? even if say we had to give up that POR pick

misterglover wrote:

ohara wrote:Dont have any confidence we may become involved. Nope.

LOl...me either buuuttt, hindsight being 20/20, would it have not been a better deal to keep Maggette and get a younger, bigger guard in Brooks on a rookie contract?? even if say we had to give up that POR pick

I would rather Ben Gordon and a likely lottery pick than keep Maggette and giving up a pick for Brooks.

I'm all in favor for giving up a pick to get Brooks but nothing more than something with top 10 protection.

I would suggest the Portland pick but it sounds like other teams already have better offers

bobcats3wallace wrote:I would rather Ben Gordon and a likely lottery pick than keep Maggette and giving up a pick for Brooks.

Why?? so you would rather pass on getting a cheap, younger, better player and have $10 mil come off the books at the end of this year to have 2 yrs of BG @ 13mil and a protected pick that is probably gonna be mid/late lottery and probably a few yrs away from being used?? I dont get that one

Brooks really isn't that good... I would trade him maybe for a pick in the range where he was drafted, but that's it...

^ Brooks is not a top 10 talent but he's certainly proven to be alot better than the pick in the late 20's where he was selected.

If that draft were done over today, he would be a 10-15 pick.

misterglover wrote:

bobcats3wallace wrote:I would rather Ben Gordon and a likely lottery pick than keep Maggette and giving up a pick for Brooks.

Why?? so you would rather pass on getting a cheap, younger, better player and have $10 mil come off the books at the end of this year to have 2 yrs of BG @ 13mil and a protected pick that is probably gonna be mid/late lottery and probably a few yrs away from being used?? I dont get that one

First all, money coming off the books really doesn't make a difference for us. There will not be a target next off season that we could attract, nor that would be worth that kind of money. We are still going to be bad. So the extra year of salary makes absolutely no difference. Brooks is nothing beyond this world. He is a solid young player, but keep in mind he was also on a terrible team last year. It's easier to put up good numbers on a bad team than continue that on a good team. Plus, I would rather have a mid/later lottery pick than Brooks. Not only that, I would rather Gordon, RIGHT NOW, than Brooks. Obviously Brooks is younger and has potential while Gordon is on the decline, but I don't see Brooks being anything more than an average to good NBA player. I would rather Henderson to Brooks in terms of long-term potential. I just don't see all the hype in Brooks. He's a good young player, nothing more. I would rather the lottery pick over Brooks and would much rather Gordon over Maggette.

dmutombo321 wrote:^ Brooks is not a top 10 talent but he's certainly proven to be alot better than the pick in the late 20's where he was selected.

If that draft were done over today, he would be a 10-15 pick.

He seems kind of flat though, like he's pretty much where he'll be, and that's not a starter. I'd rather take a chance in the draft while we can.

dmutombo321 wrote:^ Brooks is not a top 10 talent but he's certainly proven to be alot better than the pick in the late 20's where he was selected.

If that draft were done over today, he would be a 10-15 pick.

He might had been 10-15. For sure great than in the 20's. Still though, I would like a future 10-15 pick plus Gordon over Maggette.

I agree with MKG2. He's so up and down and I don't see him being much more than he already is.

I like Brooks. He scores in double digits consistently and we need scoring. I see him as a better pure SG than Hendo. Hendo plays more like a slashing SF. However, Hendo still is a part of this team's future, so I don't see why we would take Brooks. Brooks is not suited to be a PG, and we already have Ben Gordon coming off the bench at SG.

We're still in the accumulating assets stage. If we can nab Brooks for say a top 10 or top 13 protected type pick (which in that range we likely wouldnt be confering for years), I'd let he and Hendo duke it out to determine who the better SG is, then deal the lesser of the two during the season. I think a scorer like Brooks would be a good contrast to MKG.

dmutombo321 wrote:We're still in the accumulating assets stage. If we can nab Brooks for say a top 10 or top 13 protected type pick (which in that range we likely wouldnt be confering for years), I'd let he and Hendo duke it out to determine who the better SG is, then deal the lesser of the two during the season. I think a scorer like Brooks would be a good contrast to MKG.

we can't use our own pick, it would have to be portland's or detroit's...