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A place to keep track of the pick owed to us by the Blazers.

: • Portland trades a 2013 first round pick (top 12 protected in 2013-2015, unprotected 2016) to Charlotte as part of the Gerald Wallace/Joel Przybilla trade.

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Reverse Standings as of 3-19-2013
1. Charlotte 15 wins
2. Orlando 18
3. Cleveland 22
4. New Orleans 22
5. Detroit 23
6. Phoenix 23
7. Sacramento 23
8. Washington 23
9. Minnesota 23
10. Philadelphia 26
11. Toronto 26
12. Portland 31
------------------------ protection cut off
13. Dallas 32
14. Utah 34
------------------------ playoffs
15. Milwaukee 33
16. Lakers 36
17. Houston 36
18. Boston 36
19. Chicago 36

3-19-2013, we would NOT get the portland pick. it will be a race between portland, dallas and utah to see which two of those three teams finish in spots 13 and 14. we need portland to finish ahead of either dallas or utah.

if you want us to get the pick this year, root for portland and against dallas and utah
if you do not want us to get the pick this year, root for dallas and utah and against portland

I'd actually rather not have it this year to be honest.

Would much rather have it in 2014 but I also want the Lakers to miss the playoffs. I'm torn.

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Would much rather have it in 2014 but I also want the Lakers to miss the playoffs. I'm torn.

this is how a feel but i dont want the pick more than i want to Lakers to miss the playoffs

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Would much rather have it in 2014 but I also want the Lakers to miss the playoffs. I'm torn.

We can get it next year and watch the Lakers get swept in the first round. Win/win/win

(last time I checked) Per Hollinger play off projection (perhaps best thing available to estimate final records, by default) Dallas and Toronto should end up with better record than Blazers, i.e. 11th and keeping their pick. Pretty much it looks like that as long as they don't keep both Mavs and Raps (and all others) below them, they keep the pick. Let's assume Lakers, Bucks are out of picture, at least for now.

Funny how ESPN still calls them Hollinger's regarding his current occupation, it is even more bizzare in case of 'his' power rankings.

I want to package the POR pick with something and draft up to take Cauley-Stein or Len. I'm also curious to see if Biz plus the POR pick gets us anywhere in the general vicinity of a team set to take Noel. That's probably a pipe dream, but I hope the others are attainable.

BlackOutBobcat wrote:

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Would much rather have it in 2014 but I also want the Lakers to miss the playoffs. I'm torn.

We can get it next year and watch the Lakers get swept in the first round. Win/win/win

Lakers can still miss the playoffs and Blazers keep their pick (actually it is the probable situation kind of). If someone needs another reason to root against Lakers, if you like Suns more than Cavs (same conference as us), Lakers making or not making playoffs will decide who get their pick (1-14 Suns; 15-30 Cavs, Suns getting Heat pick instead). Depending on lottery results, if may be a good year to trade down and Phoeniux having something like 5th and 14th pick could be a good trading partner maybe.

MasterIchiro wrote:I want to package the POR pick with something and draft up to take Cauley-Stein or Len. I'm also curious to see if Biz plus the POR pick gets us anywhere in the general vicinity of a team set to take Noel. That's probably a pipe dream, but I hope the others are attainable.

I am not sure I want us to trade up in this draft. Although it may be much easier/cheaper than in other years.

Would rather trade down. The draft isn't terribly shallow, just not much at the top. I'd rather trade into the 2014 draft, trade down for a solid talent and a lower pick, or just trade for a great young player.



If OKC came to us on draft day and offered us Jeremy Lamb and the Toronto pick for our pick, I'd take it. Would you?

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
If OKC came to us on draft day and offered us Jeremy Lamb and the Toronto pick for our pick, I'd take it. Would you?

I'd take that trade if I'm Minnesota and I'm drafting 8th. The Toronto pick could turn out to be 12 or 13.

Could we QO Hendo and package him with the POR pick for the Minnesota pick?

I don't think I would...you're talking about dropping 10 or so spots from Shabazz/Noel/McLemore range to Plumlee/Olynyck air. Whether or not you think Lamb is better than the SGs in this class (which is a fair argument IMO), from a value standpoint I feel like we'd need another asset to do it OR they'd have to take a contract off our hands.

I would honestly trade the #1 pick for Lamb (arguably good as any guard in this draft) and a #9 - #12 pick in a heartbeat. Hell I'd take back Perkins' contract if that's what it took to get it done. I've watched Lamb play garbage minutes in OKC blowouts, he's legit and deserves minutes. Eventually they'll deal him unless they decide to let Martin walk (which I doubt).

You wouldn't need the #1 overall pick to land Lamb though. You could do it for far less than that.

Biz Gilwalker wrote:I would honestly trade the #1 pick for Lamb (arguably good as any guard in this draft) and a #9 - #12 pick in a heartbeat. Hell I'd take back Perkins' contract if that's what it took to get it done. I've watched Lamb play garbage minutes in OKC blowouts, he's legit and deserves minutes. Eventually they'll deal him unless they decide to let Martin walk (which I doubt).

yea i am going to pass on that idea. the potential of the first pick is much better than lamb will ever be.

OK rank the potential of these guards:
beal
waiters
ross
lamb
mclemore
shabazz
oladipo
smart

We DONOT WANT PORTLAND'S PICK IN 2013...This upcoming draft Has Shabaaz and McLemore and tht's it.
Next year has the franchise players and will be deeper.. GO LAL, GO MAVs beat Portland.

fatlever wrote:OK rank the potential of these guards:
beal
waiters
ross
lamb
mclemore
shabazz
oladipo
smart

1-McLemore
2-Beal
3-Shabazz
4-Smart
5-Lamb
6-Ross
7-Oladipo
8-Waiters

fatlever wrote:OK rank the potential of these guards:
beal
waiters
ross
lamb
mclemore
shabazz
oladipo
smart

1. Shabazz
2. McLemore
3a. Beal
3b. Ross
3c. Lamb
6. Oladipo
7. Waiters
8. Smart (Not even sure Rivers isn't better honestly)

1. Shabazz
2. Lamb
3. Beal
4. McLemore
5a. Ross
5b. Waiters
7. Oladipo
8. Smart


I would trade our pick for Lamb if we don't get the #1. I'd try and get Tyrus added in for the trouble but I really think Lamb has as much potential as any other young guard in the NBA or upcoming draft.