2012 Bobcats vs 2014 76ers

stanley14 · Post #1 » by **stanley14** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:00 pm

Who do guys think are worse and why?

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Liver_Pooty · Post #2 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:05 pm

stanley14 wrote:Who do guys think are worse and why?

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Probably the sixers. We were absolutely terrible, but the lockout on top of basically no training camp didn't help.

Post #3 » by **JDR720** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:18 pm

the 76ers, we had some reasons for being terrible, no training camp, no time to practice, lockout season....when your best player is Thaddeus Young you have some problems

catch20two · Post #4 » by **catch20two** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:23 pm

I think the Sixers are worst just by looking at the overall roster but that don't mean that they'll play like it. As much as I hope the Sixers break the Bobcats record for worst winning percentage I doubt it will happen. They have core pieces from their playoff runs in Thaddeus Young, Evan Turner, and Spencer Hawes that might help them get over that hump but we'll see.

HornetJail · Post #5 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:26 pm

Skills-wise, the 76ers are a much worse team. Likely to miss Noel and J-Rich for the year and Arnett Moultrie out long-term as well, they only have 4 healthy NBA caliber players on the roster (Thad, Turner, Hawes, and MCW) and the rest would rot on the bench, Kwame or Lavoy Allen might actually be the 5th best player on that team).

Jury's out on whether they have a real coach, but it doesn't get much worse than Silas. 76ers have training camp, summer league, more than 4 weeks to get ready for the season... our record won't get broken unless they really go all-out tank mode (trading Young, Turner, and Hawes- which could actually happen) and field a starting five of rookies.

My prediction is 11 wins.

catch20two · Post #6 » by **catch20two** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:28 pm

Don't look now but the Sixers have a 20-point lead on the Heat.

Liver_Pooty · Post #7 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:36 pm

catch20two wrote:Don't look now but the Sixers have a 20-point lead on the Heat.

I remember when we had the Heat beat like the 2nd game of the year or so in our 7 win season. We choked it away while Wade and Lebron looked at Cam Newton and did the superman pose.

I could have punched a hole in my monitor.

catch20two · Post #8 » by **catch20two** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:40 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:Don't look now but the Sixers have a 20-point lead on the Heat.

I remember when we had the Heat beat like the 2nd game of the year or so in our 7 win season. We choked it away while Wade and Lebron looked at Cam Newton and did the superman pose.

I could have punched a hole in my monitor.

I remember that game. Wade hit that ridiculous game-winner.

HornetJail · Post #9 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:42 pm

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:Don't look now but the Sixers have a 20-point lead on the Heat.

I remember when we had the Heat beat like the 2nd game of the year or so in our 7 win season. We choked it away while Wade and Lebron looked at Cam Newton and did the superman pose.

I could have punched a hole in my monitor.

I remember that game. Wade hit that ridiculous game-winner.

Obligatory "**** Dwyane Wade" comment

Eoghan · Post #10 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:59 pm

The Sixers don't seem to have as much dead weight on the roster like we did though, like Tyrus and DJ White and other complete scrubs. At least they're mostly young already. The Sixers just have terrible shooting. Will be interesting to see how bad the Sixers are this season. I have a feeling that not being coached by Paul Silas will give them an edge.

Liver_Pooty · Post #11 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:10 am

BrotherDave wrote:The Sixers don't seem to have as much dead weight on the roster like we did though, like Tyrus and DJ White and other complete scrubs. At least they're mostly young already. The Sixers just have terrible shooting. Will be interesting to see how bad the Sixers are this season. I have a feeling that not being coached by Paul Silas will give them an edge.

Eh Silas is a pretty solid coach, but he just wasn't prepared for the roster overturn and the youth we were going to have. Hes way too oldschool for all that.

HornetJail · Post #12 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:17 am

Sixers up on the heat 109-108 with 2 to go

Badd_Intentions · Post #13 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:26 am

This can now be closed

Post #14 » by **fatlever** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:21 am

i think the sixers just answered this question with their win tonight - bobcats 11-12 team is worse.

HornetJail · Post #15 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:48 am

We won our opening night game in 11-12 and were a Wade layup away from being 3-1 to start that year too. Just saying............

Post #16 » by **fatlever** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:51 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:We won our opening night game in 11-12 and were a Wade layup away from being 3-1 to start that year too. Just saying............

hawes, young and turner might have been our 3 best players if they were on that 7-win bobcats team.

Liver_Pooty · Post #17 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:57 am

fatlever wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:We won our opening night game in 11-12 and were a Wade layup away from being 3-1 to start that year too. Just saying............

hawes, young and turner might have been our 3 best players if they were on that 7-win bobcats team.

Agreed. Id take MCW over a rookie Walker and Augustin based off tonight alone. Turner is a lot better than Maggette, Derrick Brown or whomever we started at SF, and Young is of course better than Mullens or Diaw was.

HornetJail · Post #18 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:08 am

I'd take Henderson over Hawes. Turner and Thad are probably the best two.

But seriously, either Turner or Spencer Hawes would be the best shooter on that team healthy (minus J-Rich, who's hurt).

At least our team could score from outside of 15 feet at all.

LamarMatic7 · Post #19 » by **LamarMatic7** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:36 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:At least our team could score from outside of 15 feet at all.

umm.. not really. Rookie Kemba, DJ Augustin, Maggette and Hendo aren't exactly big threats that far from the basket.

Post #20 » by **JDR720** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:09 pm

This is Charlottes 2011-2012 Roster (includes signings throughout season and any trade)

D.J. Augustin PG 6-0 180
Bismack Biyombo C 6-9 229
Derrick Brown SF 6-7 225
Matt Carroll SG 6-6 212
Boris Diaw PF 6-8 215
DeSagana Diop C 7-0 300
Gerald Henderson SG 6-5 215
Cory Higgins PG 6-5 180
Corey Maggette SF 6-6 218
Jamario Moon SF 6-8 205
Byron Mullens C 7-0 275
Eduardo Najera PF 6-8 240
Tyrus Thomas PF 6-9 215
Kemba Walker PG 6-1 172
D.J. White PF 6-9 251
Reggie Williams SG 6-6 210