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Re: Fun with Stats!!! 

Post#681 » by Braggins » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:33 pm

Every team outside of the top 8 of the standings in the East has a negative net rating except us. Four of the seven teams directly above us in the East standings, including two teams in the top 8, have a worse net rating than us.

Makes me believe even more that tanking this season and getting a new coach could be so beneficial. We are too talented to deserve a top 5-7 pick in the draft, but we are right there in a great position to get it.

A stud prospect, a good coach, and some better play from Batum, could cause this team's outlook to do a complete 180.
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Re: Fun with Stats!!! 

Post#682 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:22 pm

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Post#683 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:53 pm

That @T1m_NBA dude had a piece out recently that said we had the best schemes in the league.

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Post#684 » by 316Hornets » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:58 pm

yosemiteben wrote:That @T1m_NBA dude had a piece out recently that said we had the best schemes in the league.

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Much of his stats are just based on his opinion and I'm going to guess he hasn't watched many Hornets games.
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Post#685 » by yosemiteben » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:03 pm

We have zero players that have played in each of our last 10 games and posted a positive net rating: https://stats.nba.com/players/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&LastNGames=10&TeamID=1610612766
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Post#686 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:33 am

Super self indulgent, but I took a look at stats to see which teams other than the Hornets I might be interested in watching as the year winds down and Cliff keeps Monk nailed to the bench. My criteria: OFRTG (must be top 10), Assist% (tired of no-pass ball), Pace (Hornets aren't terrible here - but fast >slow), 3PA (I like 3s), FEWEST FTA (don't like watching folks at the line all the time - ironically the Hornets are leading the league here). I didn't care about D, ;)

Anyway 3 of the top 5 teams didn't shock me. Warriors, Cavs, & Raptors ... but two did. The Pels & Nuggets both came up as teams that I might want to watch. Now I doubt that the Pels will be as interesting without Cousins, but I'm probably going to try to catch a few of their games now. Ditto for the Nuggets.
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Post#687 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:26 pm

Charlotte Hornets have the 2nd worst bench production in the NBA (29th in NETRTG), only ahead of the Phoenix Suns. Most of that detriment is driven down by them having the 2nd worst offensive rating among benches in the league (29th in OFFRTG), only ahead of the Sixers by a single decimal point at the moment

https://stats.nba.com/teams/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StarterBench=Bench
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Re: Fun with Stats!!! 

Post#688 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:53 am

https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46267592&nid=294

I found various parts of this interesting, but the draft section at the end is what really caught my eye.
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Post#689 » by BlackOutBuzz » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:39 pm

Seems noteworthy.

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Post#690 » by fatlever » Fri Nov 8, 2019 10:36 pm

starting lineup has -26.8 rtg in 71 mins. that needs to change, tank or no tank.

cz, roz, bac combo seems to be root of trouble. -27.5 in 97 min.
meanwhil, dg, bac, pj are +13.1 in 64 min
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Post#691 » by fatlever » Fri Nov 8, 2019 10:43 pm

13th in 3pa
25th in pace

we're actually playing really slow and shooting 3s at league avg rate
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Post#692 » by Rich4114 » Sat Nov 9, 2019 6:54 pm

fatlever wrote:starting lineup has -26.8 rtg in 71 mins. that needs to change, tank or no tank.

cz, roz, bac combo seems to be root of trouble. -27.5 in 97 min.
meanwhil, dg, bac, pj are +13.1 in 64 min


Yeah that’s not just a little low that is several levels lower than any other starting 5 in the league. JB should consider starting with the group he has been closing with. Or experiment by swapping Bacon and/or Cody out with someone else.

My biggest fear is when Batum comes back all of this comes crashing down and we are back to being tank commanders.
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Re: Fun with Stats!!! 

Post#693 » by fatlever » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:12 pm

fatlever wrote:starting lineup has -26.8 rtg in 71 mins. that needs to change, tank or no tank.


-29.6 in 85 min
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Post#694 » by euphorbus » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:33 am

Graham appears in all of the top fifteen three-man lineups so far this year. (Minimum 48 minutes played.) Unreal. But only the top seven are in positive territory for + / - after ten games.

http://bkref.com/tiny/zwlfg

The information comes from Basketball Reference.

Edit: the stats have been updated this morning to include eleven games, so they now differ a bit from the above statements.
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Post#695 » by euphorbus » Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:56 am

After 18 games, only two Hornets have a positive +- per game: Batum (3.0 in 7 games) and Cody Martin (0.8 in 15). Right after them come Monk (-.9) and Biyombo (-1.4).

What is surprising to me is the two guys at the bottom: Rozier (-7.9) and Bridges (-9.0). Truly awful numbers, considering they have played in every game. The two players just above them, Zeller (-6.4) and Bacon (-6.7), are also having abysmal seasons. The same four players, in different order, also round out the bottom in net rating (minimum 6 games played).
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Post#696 » by DY_nasty » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:44 pm

euphorbus wrote:After 18 games, only two Hornets have a positive +- per game: Batum (3.0 in 7 games) and Cody Martin (0.8 in 15). Right after them come Monk (-.9) and Biyombo (-1.4).

What is surprising to me is the two guys at the bottom: Rozier (-7.9) and Bridges (-9.0). Truly awful numbers, considering they have played in every game. The two players just above them, Zeller (-6.4) and Bacon (-6.7), are also having abysmal seasons. The same four players, in different order, also round out the bottom in net rating (minimum 6 games played).

because its a trash stat more times than not
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Post#697 » by DY_nasty » Thu Dec 5, 2019 10:23 pm

http://www.82games.com/1920/1920CHA.HTM

thought it was about time to visit now that some games are under everyone's belt

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Post#698 » by Rich4114 » Sat Dec 7, 2019 6:05 pm

Not all that surprising with the exception of Batum being a lot higher than I would’ve thought and Marvin being a bit lower.

Wth are we going to do with Miles? His season is disappointing to say the least.
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Post#699 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sat Dec 7, 2019 7:44 pm

Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed with both Miles and Bacon ... and they were two of the guys I was most excited about over the summer with all the workout stuff they posted.

I wonder if they were actually a negative influence on each other. Bacon looking to get his and posting stats. Miles with his connections to to LeBron's extended camp.
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Post#700 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sat Dec 7, 2019 8:16 pm

And looked at the two stat links above again. It is interesting how well Batum is doing in both of those.
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