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The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:18 am
by nickforthreee
This is the guy for Charlotte at #9 and i will explain why after this video:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYKw3F_PxnI[/youtube]
He is a perfect fit for the Hornets for so many reasons.
#1 Spacing the floor. This guy in my opinion has the prettiest jump shot in this years class along w/ maybe Stauskas. The numbers don't scream elite shooter but neither did bradley beals but you could see beal's stroke and know that it was going to be elite one day. I watched almost every Kentucky game this season and the dude is a knock down shooter, he was just forced to take a lot of bad shots in that offense. I see him being a 40%+ 3 point shooter in the NBA which is something the Hornets desperately need to space that floor for Kemba & Al to go to work.
#2 Not afraid to shoot. Watching this team the majority of the time it seems like Kemba & Al are the only ones shooting the ball. I guess you can add McBob to that list as well. Young is a guy who is not afraid to take big shots in big moments, and someone who can really take pressure off these guys because if you want him to get shots up he will and he can do it in a variety of ways, he is an underrated finisher at the rim and is an underrated athlete. Also has a nice midrange game.
#3 Potential. Year one i see him mainly as a shooter but this kid has all the tools to be an All-Star down the road. He has the perfect body and length for the 2/3 swingman and combine that with his athleticism and shooting stroke and he can be a really dangerous guy for other teams to deal with.
WEAKNESSES: Defense & Right Hand.
Definitely is not a finished project, but he is one of the youngest players in this draft. His defense needs to get better but he has all of the tools to be a good defender and also with MKG out there it can help cover up some of his mistakes. He also needs to work on his right hand because he is lefty dominant at this stage.
All in all i think he fits perfectly with what this team needs and to get a potential all-star at #9 would be a great grab for the Hornets in my opinion.
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:47 am
by DY_nasty
He played with Julius Randle. He was only forced to take bad shots that he allowed himself to take by not having any off-ball sense for scoring whatsoever. And if he couldn't take the pressure off of Randle who played bully ball 1 on 3 every night, then how is he going to take the pressure off of any of our guys in the NBA? And there is no way in hell he's shooting 40% in the NBA. Not only do rookies almost never touch that, but with his release? No.
He's not as NBA ready as Nik and he doesn't have the long-term potential of Gary Harris. I'd almost rather have Hood.
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:59 am
by mrknowitall215
This should be Charlotte's #1 target right here. James Young would've been projected as the top wing prospect in 2015's draft class if he had chosen to return, and was Kentucky's most explosive scorer throughout the season
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:58 am
by Liver_Pooty
I wouldn't be upset if we picked him at 9, but I believe there are better players that will be available.
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:06 am
by LofJ
Young is a bit of a project. His ball handling ability is limited and he is not a good defender at this point in time. I think he will become a good defender, but it will take a few years. So if we're swinging for potential Id rather go with Lavine I think, even though he is even less ready to play the 2 next year. After thinking about it some more Stauskas is by far the best fit for the roster. So I'm down to him or Lavine.
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 1:23 pm
by EwingSweatsALot
Unless we can somehow trade up or get a godfather offer for a vet, I want James Young.
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:29 pm
by Snidely FC
One year ago I would have argued vociferously for James Young (or even Zach Lavine). But things have changed since the Al Jeff acquisition, and bringing in Clifford. This team is built to win now. James Young is a talent. But will Clifford play him ten minutes in the first half and then bench him? I see guys like Young and esp Lavine being 5 years from starting, especially with Clifford at the helm. Am I wrong?
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:31 pm
by catch20two
I want James Young. He got size. He's a catch-and-shoot 3 point shooter. He's a aggressive scorer. He has plenty of upside. I don't see why he shouldn't be the target. He's low risk and high reward at #9.
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:35 pm
by countryboi
now this is the player i like he was Kentucky best player even with Randle dominating the ball and the Harrison twins jacking up poor shots. the kid can shot and put it on the he is tall but quick enough to guard some shooting guards
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:01 pm
by LofJ
countryboi wrote:now this is the player i like he was Kentucky best player even with Randle dominating the ball and the Harrison twins jacking up poor shots. the kid can shot and put it on the he is tall but quick enough to guard some shooting guards
Young jacked up a lot more bad shots than Aaron Harrison did. If anything Aaron should have shot more and Young less (Andrew is guilty as charged though). He also can't handle the ball. He's a straight line driver and catch and shoot player at the moment.
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:06 pm
by mrknowitall215
Snidely FC wrote:One year ago I would have argued vociferously for James Young (or even Zach Lavine). But things have changed since the Al Jeff acquisition, and bringing in Clifford. This team is built to win now. James Young is a talent. But will Clifford play him ten minutes in the first half and then bench him? I see guys like Young and esp Lavine being 5 years from starting, especially with Clifford at the helm. Am I wrong?
Charlotte want a shooting guard for the future? that can shoot? that can take matters into his own hands when the team need scoring? that'll be All-Star caliber? that has above average size for the position, therefore he won't be a liability on neither side of the ball? James Young is the guy, he's the one. This is basically a gift wrapped present to Charlotte at #9
I'd recommend anyone who's uncertain of Young to do some research and watch video of his capable skill sets. Young is the ideal prototype of a All-Star caliber shooting guard with his size, ability to put the ball on the floor, and shoot from beyond the arc whether it's off the dribble or catch-and-shoot
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:16 pm
by LofJ
Young can't put the ball on the floor, where is everyone getting that from? You guys are falling in love with the idea of an athletic do it all 2 and projecting that onto Young. Read Draft Express' scouting report on him if you're willing to look past your biases.
http://search.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Young-6462/
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:23 pm
by mrknowitall215
LofJ wrote:Young can't put the ball on the floor, where is everyone getting that from? You guys are falling in love with the idea of an athletic do it all 2 and projecting that onto Young. Read Draft Express' scouting report on him if you're willing to look past your biases.
http://search.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Young-6462/
Young isn't going to be moonlighting as a point guard, but when I state that he can put the ball on the floor I'm referring to the fact that he isn't strictly a perimeter oriented catch-and-shoot player and that he can take a defender off the dribble. Young has shown that ability on plenty of occasions
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:29 pm
by LofJ
mrknowitall215 wrote:LofJ wrote:Young can't put the ball on the floor, where is everyone getting that from? You guys are falling in love with the idea of an athletic do it all 2 and projecting that onto Young. Read Draft Express' scouting report on him if you're willing to look past your biases.
http://search.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Young-6462/
Young isn't going to be moonlighting as a point guard, but when I state that he can put the ball on the floor I'm referring to the fact that he isn't strictly a perimeter oriented catch-and-shoot player and that he can take a defender off the dribble. Young has shown that ability on plenty of occasions
He can take it to the hoop when he's given an opening, but he can't create off the dribble. If he could he wouldn't have settled for so many contested jumpers (the most in the NCAA according to Draft Express). His best attributes are his length, athleticism, and offensive aggressiveness. The rest of his game has a long way to go.
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:31 pm
by mrknowitall215
LofJ wrote:mrknowitall215 wrote:LofJ wrote:Young can't put the ball on the floor, where is everyone getting that from? You guys are falling in love with the idea of an athletic do it all 2 and projecting that onto Young. Read Draft Express' scouting report on him if you're willing to look past your biases.
http://search.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Young-6462/
Young isn't going to be moonlighting as a point guard, but when I state that he can put the ball on the floor I'm referring to the fact that he isn't strictly a perimeter oriented catch-and-shoot player and that he can take a defender off the dribble. Young has shown that ability on plenty of occasions
He can take it to the hoop when he's given an opening, but he can't create off the dribble. If he could he wouldn't have settled for so many contested jumpers (the most in the NCAA according to Draft Express).
His best atributes are his length, athleticism, and offensive aggressiveness. The rest of his game has a long way to go.
That's exactly what Charlotte need
...and I beg to differ that he can't create his own shot off the dribble
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:37 pm
by LofJ
mrknowitall215 wrote:LofJ wrote:mrknowitall215 wrote:
Young isn't going to be moonlighting as a point guard, but when I state that he can put the ball on the floor I'm referring to the fact that he isn't strictly a perimeter oriented catch-and-shoot player and that he can take a defender off the dribble. Young has shown that ability on plenty of occasions
He can take it to the hoop when he's given an opening, but he can't create off the dribble. If he could he wouldn't have settled for so many contested jumpers (the most in the NCAA according to Draft Express).
His best atributes are his length, athleticism, and offensive aggressiveness. The rest of his game has a long way to go.
That's exactly what Charlotte need
...and I beg to differ that he can't create his own shot off the dribble
I agree we do need that, but if Young could create off the dribble then why didn't he do it more last year? Why did he settle for so many contested jumpers? He played like Nick Young if anything last year, are you sure he can learn to play efficent basketball?
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:47 pm
by mrknowitall215
LofJ wrote:mrknowitall215 wrote:LofJ wrote:
He can take it to the hoop when he's given an opening, but he can't create off the dribble. If he could he wouldn't have settled for so many contested jumpers (the most in the NCAA according to Draft Express). His best atributes are his length, athleticism, and offensive aggressiveness. The rest of his game has a long way to go.
That's exactly what Charlotte need
...and I beg to differ that he can't create his own shot off the dribble
I agree we do need that, but if Young could create off the dribble then why didn't he do it more last year? Why did he settle for so many contested jumpers? He played like Nick Young if anything last year, are you sure he can learn to play efficent basketball?
I wouldn't consider it 'settling' for contested jumpers. Young just wasn't reluctant to catch-and-shoot within the NCAA's zone defensive schemes. As far as his inefficiency, I don't think he'll ever become a 50% plus from the field type of scorer like LeBron James, Kevin Durant, or Dwyane Wade, but he'll be a middling efficiency scorer a la Paul George & Klay Thompson
Critics tend to ridicule Young as inefficient this past season at Kentucky, but he had a TS% of .536 (.535 TS% is average NBA efficiency)
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:10 pm
by LofJ
mrknowitall215 wrote:LofJ wrote:mrknowitall215 wrote:
That's exactly what Charlotte need
...and I beg to differ that he can't create his own shot off the dribble
I agree we do need that, but if Young could create off the dribble then why didn't he do it more last year? Why did he settle for so many contested jumpers? He played like Nick Young if anything last year, are you sure he can learn to play efficent basketball?
I wouldn't consider it 'settling' for contested jumpers. Young just wasn't reluctant to catch-and-shoot within the NCAA's zone defensive schemes. As far as his inefficiency, I don't think he'll ever become a 50% plus from the field type of scorer like LeBron James, Kevin Durant, or Dwyane Wade, but he'll be a middling efficiency scorer a la Paul George & Klay Thompson
Critics tend to ridicule Young as inefficient this past season at Kentucky, but he had a TS% of .536 (.535 TS% is average NBA efficiency)
Is the average NCAA TS% even lower than that? If not how does middling in the NCAA correspond to middling efficiency in the NBA?
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:17 pm
by mrknowitall215
LofJ wrote:Is the average NCAA TS% even lower than that? If not how does middling in the NCAA correspond to middling efficiency in the NBA?
I'm not exactly sure how NCAA percentages translate to NBA percentages. Certain players excel in the NBA's more wide open style of play while others struggle with the length and strength of the pros
Re: The James Young Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:23 pm
by LofJ
That's interesting. For comparisons sake both McDermott and Stauskas had a TS% over .600 this year (.644 and .641 respectively).