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Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1441 » by amcoolio » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:32 pm

Its so hard to say, he hasn't played in two years.

Average defense, sub-average offense, sub-average athleticism, excellent intangibles

MKG will always be a "what might have been" like Greg Oden
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1442 » by fatlever » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:40 pm

Mavericksfan wrote:Anyone care to give a detailed scouting report?

Offense: 4 - decent in transition, good offensive rebounder in traffic, the rest is below avg to bad

Defense: 7 - can guard 1-4, great instincts, gets bullied down low

Athleticism: 5 - very one-handed, not really explosive

Intangibles: 8 - his best asset

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1443 » by BlackOutBuzz » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:18 pm

Easy to forget that rookie of the month award right at the start of the year, playing center in the Rising Stars game, and ending up on the All-Rookie 2nd team (have we had anyone make that team since?). I didn't like the pick initially, but he really grew on me through his tenacity and fearless style of play.

Was certainly time to move on, but I really don't get the vitriol. Even without a jumpshot, he was undeniably an impact player who's willingness to literally risk limb for this team likely had an adverse effect on his career trajectory.

So best of luck to him, hopefully Dallas makes some noise in the west playoffs.



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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1444 » by 316Hornets » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:51 pm

Mavericksfan wrote:Anyone care to give a detailed scouting report?

Offense: 3; He has like one go to mid range shot that he hits a very high percentage. Everywhere else, he is very below average. Sometimes looks lost on offense like he is just watching the game instead of a part of it.

Defense: 5; With other solid defenders on the court, MKG can hold his own. Asking him to cover multiple people and constantly switch frustrates him and he gets lost. Pretty good rebounder and active on boxing out.

Athleticism: 5; He has the ability to guard 3-5 with his wingspan and body size. Decent ability to fight through traffic.

Intangibles: 5; From all signs, he is a great teammate and unselfish. Whatever role you give him, he doesn't argue against it. Really encouraged the young guys last season when we played him.

Overall: Not worth the contract we gave him, but provides enough value and experience to be worth adding. I don't think you'll be disappointed in about 10 energy minutes a night, but not overly impressed either.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1445 » by tondi123 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:38 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
tondi123 wrote:Best of luck MKG. We will always have that one summer league game where you looked like a #2 pick.


Dude looked like a prime Clyde Drexler that game.

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1446 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:21 am

thanks to lamar

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1447 » by JDR720 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:49 am

He just could never recover from the injuries he has had, I also think he is a bit mentally fragile. MKG at times was our best player, he just couldn't overcome his flaws.

As for the scouting report

Offense- 3, he is good at transition offence and rebounding. Thats all
Defense- 7, He used to be a 9 or even 10, but he doesn't play all-out like he used to.
Athlete- 5, he is pretty fast vertically and has quick feet on defense, but he isn't a leaper or that explosive
Intangibles- 7, never causes problems and by all accounts a great teammate. He isn't a leader though, he is pretty passive/quiet.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1448 » by Chapelchilla » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:00 pm

The back to back shoulder injuries destroyed him physically and the family issue seemed to do the same mentally. Not sure if he can get that turned around elsewhere. Good luck to him though, he was never a bad guy.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1449 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:34 pm

for comp

marvin

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defense: 6 (although clifford says prob 9, as marv was apparently brilliant at reading the game)
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You have got to be kidding 

Post#1450 » by Najee12 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:20 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
tondi123 wrote:Best of luck MKG. We will always have that one summer league game where you looked like a #2 pick.


Dude looked like a prime Clyde Drexler that game.


You either never saw Clyde Drexler play or you're a poor judge of talent (which would be consistent with this board overrating a player seen as having Tony Allen-level upside).
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Re: You have got to be kidding 

Post#1451 » by DY_nasty » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:04 am

Najee12 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
tondi123 wrote:Best of luck MKG. We will always have that one summer league game where you looked like a #2 pick.


Dude looked like a prime Clyde Drexler that game.


You either never saw Clyde Drexler play or you're a poor judge of talent (which would be consistent with this board overrating a player seen as having Tony Allen-level upside).

you don't recall thomas robinson getting bron comps

or stanley johnson looking like grant hill

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Re: You have got to be kidding 

Post#1452 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:54 am

Najee12 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
tondi123 wrote:Best of luck MKG. We will always have that one summer league game where you looked like a #2 pick.


Dude looked like a prime Clyde Drexler that game.


You either never saw Clyde Drexler play or you're a poor judge of talent (which would be consistent with this board overrating a player seen as having Tony Allen-level upside).


You must be having a bad night. You'll be okay.

He looked like a Scottie Pippen.
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Re: You have got to be kidding 

Post#1453 » by Diop » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:41 am

Najee12 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
tondi123 wrote:Best of luck MKG. We will always have that one summer league game where you looked like a #2 pick.


Dude looked like a prime Clyde Drexler that game.


You either never saw Clyde Drexler play or you're a poor judge of talent (which would be consistent with this board overrating a player seen as having Tony Allen-level upside).


Don’t be a knob.

His first preseason game, he absolutely dominated, finishing with a pull up 3. It got a lot of people excited, but it never worked out
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Re: You have got to be kidding 

Post#1454 » by fatlever » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:25 pm

Diop wrote:
Najee12 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Dude looked like a prime Clyde Drexler that game.


You either never saw Clyde Drexler play or you're a poor judge of talent (which would be consistent with this board overrating a player seen as having Tony Allen-level upside).


Don’t be a knob.

His first preseason game, he absolutely dominated, finishing with a pull up 3. It got a lot of people excited, but it never worked out


18/8/5/4/0 in that game in 21 mins(then got hurt). he dominated! was easily best player on the court that game (which included 2nd year kemba)

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Re: You have got to be kidding 

Post#1455 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:05 am

fatlever wrote:
He dominated! (then got hurt)



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Re: You have got to be kidding 

Post#1456 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:40 pm

fatlever wrote:
Diop wrote:
Najee12 wrote:
You either never saw Clyde Drexler play or you're a poor judge of talent (which would be consistent with this board overrating a player seen as having Tony Allen-level upside).


Don’t be a knob.

His first preseason game, he absolutely dominated, finishing with a pull up 3. It got a lot of people excited, but it never worked out


18/8/5/4/0 in that game in 21 mins(then got hurt). he dominated! was easily best player on the court that game (which included 2nd year kemba)

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To this day I think that, had he been in a different situation - different coach, coming off the bench his rookie season instead of starting right away, & without the pressure of being the #2 pick on a bad team ... that this version of MKG might have been a thing. Mentally he wasn't ready to be that guy right away, but this game really showed what he could have been.

His thin frame really helped his quickness, which allowed him to guard PGs ... but more weight and strength probably would have helped him avoid injury better. My eye test was that he would have some great defensive play that would piss off someone and they would retaliate by knocking him down on the next play or two. Being thin he would end up injured.

The shoulder thing destroyed him. He was never the same after that last one. He should never have tried to come back as quickly as he did.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1457 » by BlackOutBuzz » Mon Mar 2, 2020 4:06 pm

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#1458 » by KingCat » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:43 am

Just wanna note that I find it funny as hell that Rick Carlisle has given MKG the green light to shoot threes lmao
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