The Justise Winslow thread

[Elden Payton]

Justise Winslow was in many ways the surprise packet of the season (aside from D'Angelo Russell)

He was overlooked in the amazing recruiting class that Duke had this past season, but quickly ended up being arguably their most important piece for stretches of their season.

Justise has been pegged as a likely top 7 pick in this draft, mostly being mocked in the 4-7 range.

His measurements at the combine in terms of height and length could have been better but his athleticism seems to be in the elite category to make up for it.

I believe this will be the guy to fall to our pick this season, much to the confusion of many and I've always thought he would be the perfect fit for our team.

What do posters think is the chance of him landing with us at #9?

What do posters think of his game?

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I think that he's amazing and would be great on a lot of teams. I'm concerned about his fit here given the overlap with MKG's game, but if he's there at 9 the Hornets have to take him.

[stinger14]

Would be a great add to this team. After Russell, he would be my favorite target

[Liver_Pooty]

Probably wouldn't fit well. But you have to take him and figure that out later.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

http://deanondraft.com/2015/04/06/serving-justise-to-justise-should-winslow-go-1/

[Elden Payton]

I think that he's amazing and would be great on a lot of teams. I'm concerned about his fit here given the overlap with MKG's game, but if he's there at 9 the Hornets have to take him.

I honestly don't believe the overlap with MKG is a bad thing, them as a pairing actually suit imo.

The knocks on Winslow actually work in our favour and may cause him to fall.

KNOCK-More of a spot up shooter than creative off the dribble=What we need.

KNOCKS-He's a small SF=We need him at SG.

KNOCKS-Poor FT shooter=Our favourite type of prospect?

KNOCKS-Seems to be content playing a role and not taking over=High character, high IQ, team player.

[HornetJail]

He's talented enough to make it work. I wouldn't take him over Mario, but he's not far behind him.

[Elden Payton]

He's talented enough to make it work. I wouldn't take him over Mario, but he's not far behind him.

Why not over Mario?

Just wondering!

[HornetJail]

He's talented enough to make it work. I wouldn't take him over Mario, but he's not far behind him.

Why not over Mario?

Just wondering!

I feel like Hezonja has a higher offensive ceiling

[Elden Payton]

He's talented enough to make it work. I wouldn't take him over Mario, but he's not far behind him.

Why not over Mario?

Just wondering!

I feel like Hezonja has a higher offensive ceiling

Fair call but what about the other side of the court?

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Winslow became the better player on both sides of the ball.

[HornetJail]

Why not over Mario?

Just wondering!

I feel like Hezonja has a higher offensive ceiling

Fair call but what about the other side of the court?

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Winslow became the better player on both sides of the ball.

That's fair, but Hezonja is definitely the better shooter- maybe the best in the draft, and that is by far our biggest need.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Personally, I think he's a top 5 prospect with a floor of 7 depending on team fit. If he somehow falls to 8 though I have no idea how Detroit passes.

[Elden Payton]

I feel like Hezonja has a higher offensive ceiling

Fair call but what about the other side of the court?

Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Winslow became the better player on both sides of the ball.

That's fair, but Hezonja is definitely the better shooter- maybe the best in the draft, and that is by far our biggest need.

I'm not against picking Hezonja and his mix of athleticism, shooting and experience with professional ball, however, I'm not sure what his role will be at NBA level?

Worst case he would be a specialist shooter, but would he accept that role? (which would be perfect for Booker)

Personally I feel that Booker or Hunter could be just as good a shooter, at NBA level already (and superior in time)

Looking back in CLT history, picking for need was always our biggest mistake, people can call out Cho (fairly) for his duplication picks and love for projects, but I feel aside from Zeller, every pick has been BPA in terms of potential, character and a particular NBA niche.

Zeller was the right pick imo and I have not changed my stance since before the draft in that regard.

Winslow was ranked ahead of Hezonja* as a prospect for good reason imo, as good an athlete as Hezonja is, Winslow is unique in his level of explosive athleticism and power at his size.

*Has been until about a week ago.

Winslow is by far the better defender both on the perimiter and in the post and is the better scorer in the post and will hold his own there at NBA level imo.

He's the same size as Lance Stephenson already and will bully NBA SG's as a teenager from day dot in the L.

Hezonja may very well be the better NBA player in time, but if they're both there at #9 and we don't take Winslow, I would be devastated because this guy is exactly what we need.

[Elden Payton]

Personally, I think he's a top 5 prospect with a floor of 7 depending on team fit. If he somehow falls to 8 though I have no idea how Detroit passes.

I have three sneaking suspicions in this draft BOB.

1.) This draft is stronger than people realise.

2.) The top six could is completely unpredictable at this point.

3.) Towns COULD* go fourth to NY.

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1.) Okafor

2.) Russell

3.) Porzingis

4.) Towns

5.) Hezonja

6.) Stein

7.) Mudiay

8.) Johnson

9.) Winslow

10.) Booker

11.) Payne

12.) Lyles

13.) Turner

14.) Kaminsky/Dekker/Grant etc. (Who knows with OKC)

[JMAC3]

Not a fan of Winslow, I think his shooting numbers were a bit fluky. He measured out really poor at the combine, and he has no midrange game. I think he is being over valued because most sites have him as a high pick so people just assume he is a better prospect.

Especially after seeing him miss jumper after jumper in that Nuggets workout being unguarded.

He is behind SJ, Hezonja for me.

[SeanBobcats]

I would probably take Winslow over Hezonja, and I am one who is still very high on Hezonja. I just see Winslow as the much safer pick. His shot isn't great, but it's better than Henderson or Lance shooting threes, and his shot can definitely still be improved upon. Just imagine Winslow and MKG defensively. That has potential to be the one of the greatest defensive wing combos of all time.

[HornetJail]

Personally, I think he's a top 5 prospect with a floor of 7 depending on team fit. If he somehow falls to 8 though I have no idea how Detroit passes.

I have three sneaking suspicions in this draft BOB.

1.) This draft is stronger than people realise.

2.) The top six could is completely unpredictable at this point.

3.) Towns COULD* go fourth to NY.

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1.) Okafor

2.) Russell

3.) Porzingis

4.) Towns

5.) Hezonja

6.) Stein

7.) Mudiay

8.) Johnson

9.) Winslow

10.) Booker

11.) Payne

12.) Lyles

13.) Turner

14.) Kaminsky/Dekker/Grant etc. (Who knows with OKC)

This is an... odd mock draft. Towns slipping all the way to 4? Hezonja getting picked up by Orlando who already has Oladipo? Interesting

[Braggins]

I'd still favor Mario, but would be damn happy with Winslow as well.

[Elden Payton]

Personally, I think he's a top 5 prospect with a floor of 7 depending on team fit. If he somehow falls to 8 though I have no idea how Detroit passes.

I have three sneaking suspicions in this draft BOB.

1.) This draft is stronger than people realise.

2.) The top six could is completely unpredictable at this point.

3.) Towns COULD* go fourth to NY.

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1.) Okafor

2.) Russell

3.) Porzingis

4.) Towns

5.) Hezonja

6.) Stein

7.) Mudiay

8.) Johnson

9.) Winslow

10.) Booker

11.) Payne

12.) Lyles

13.) Turner

14.) Kaminsky/Dekker/Grant etc. (Who knows with OKC)

This is an... odd mock draft. Towns slipping all the way to 4? Hezonja getting picked up by Orlando who already has Oladipo? Interesting

This isn't my big board, although if it was, Okafor and Russell would still be #1 and #2 on it.

The point of this mock is factoring in WHAT I DON'T think is going to happen.

Everyone is wrong about the draft every year and yet a lot of things are almost a given on most drafts.

1.) The guy who everyone says is a given to go #1 in the draft... doesn't unless he's a consensus pick. (Towns)

2.) The guy who was considered the #1 pick since he was 16 goes #1 (Okafor)

3.) A top fourish prospect who falls, floor is almost always pick 9. (Winslow)

4.) A top 10 fringe prospect will go top 5. (Porzingis)

5.) A team will horrendously draft need over BPA. (Stein)

6.) A team will duplicate talent of a high level prospect already on their roster. (Hezonja)

7.) An International player will be ridiculously overhyped. (Porzingis)

8.) An International player will be ridiculously undervalued. (Mudiay)

9.) A team will draft someone mid-late first round that no one has ever heard of. (Vezenkov)

10.) A guy from a smaller program, who you think gets underrated is actually overrated. (Kaminsky)

11.) A guy from a smaller program, who you think gets overrated is actually underrated. (Payne)

12.) A guy gets all his strengths ignored because his game has been picked apart too much. (Jones)

13.) A guy who goes late lotto has top 5 talent. (Turner)

14.) A guy who goes mid-late has top 10 talent. (Portis)

There are many more but I thought I'd do lotto of them.

[yosemiteben]

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So Winslow is working out for the Pistons. Interesting.