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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1201 » by catch20two » Tue Apr 3, 2018 5:16 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Nic batum just went on twitter and called Brandon Roy the best player he has ever played with.

Brandon Roy was very good. It’s a shame what injuries did to him. And that Portland team was successful, went to the playoffs 3 straight seasons in the West winning on average at least 50 games each year.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1202 » by KEMBAtheMETEOR » Tue Apr 3, 2018 5:16 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Nic batum just went on twitter and called Brandon Roy the best player he has ever played with.

I'll agree with him.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1204 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Apr 3, 2018 5:43 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Nic batum just went on twitter and called Brandon Roy the best player he has ever played with.


Hes probably correct.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1205 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Apr 3, 2018 5:45 pm

On that note add Brandon Roy to the list of players this franchise passed on. Granted injuries drilled his career.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1206 » by Joest2003 » Tue Apr 3, 2018 6:19 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:Nic batum just went on twitter and called Brandon Roy the best player he has ever played with.

I'll agree with him.


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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1207 » by catch20two » Tue Apr 3, 2018 6:25 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:Nic batum just went on twitter and called Brandon Roy the best player he has ever played with.

I'll agree with him.


Damian Lillard says hi

Batum didn’t play with the prime Lillard player that you’re seeing now. Aldridge was easily the best player on those teams.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1208 » by Joest2003 » Tue Apr 3, 2018 6:29 pm

In no way shape or form is Brandon Roy a better player than Lillard thay is laughable. Even trying to say he's was better than Walker is a stretch. He never shot better than 38% from the 3 in any season of his career before the Injury so let's stop acting like hes ray Allen or Steph Curry. Lillard is an absolute monster.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1209 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Apr 3, 2018 6:42 pm

There were lots of discussion before his injury of Roy being up there with Wade at the time as far as the best 2 guards in the league. Its a good debate.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1210 » by yosemiteben » Tue Apr 3, 2018 7:28 pm

I wasn't nerdy about basketball when Brandon Roy played in the sense of caring about stats, but I loved watching him.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1211 » by countryboi » Tue Apr 3, 2018 7:36 pm

I cant fault any team for passing on Brandon Roy, everyone knew his knees were a time bomb.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1212 » by catch20two » Tue Apr 3, 2018 8:14 pm

Different era but I don’t know, injuries excluded, I’d probably take peak Brandon Roy over peak Damian Lillard. But that’s subject to change based on what Lillard do in this year’s playoffs. He’s been on a tear.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1213 » by predators » Tue Apr 3, 2018 10:01 pm

Joest2003 wrote:In no way shape or form is Brandon Roy a better player than Lillard thay is laughable. Even trying to say he's was better than Walker is a stretch. He never shot better than 38% from the 3 in any season of his career before the Injury so let's stop acting like hes ray Allen or Steph Curry. Lillard is an absolute monster.


Lillard has only shot it above 38% from 3 his sophomore season. Lillards numbers are objectively better though.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1214 » by Lwcasu » Tue Apr 3, 2018 10:37 pm

predators wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:In no way shape or form is Brandon Roy a better player than Lillard thay is laughable. Even trying to say he's was better than Walker is a stretch. He never shot better than 38% from the 3 in any season of his career before the Injury so let's stop acting like hes ray Allen or Steph Curry. Lillard is an absolute monster.


Lillard has only shot it above 38% from 3 his sophomore season. Lillards numbers are objectively better though.


Lillard for all intents and purposes is better, but Roy just had 'It', whatever 'it' is.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1215 » by SWedd523 » Wed Apr 4, 2018 12:05 am

Roy seemed like a guy on his way to top 5 player in the league for a long time status
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1216 » by LofJ » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:52 pm

https://www.atthehive.com/2018/4/23/17244740/feature-what-went-wrong-for-the-2017-18-charlotte-hornets

I knew Batum was bad this season, but the math is damning considering how much he is paid. He is easily the player most responsible for the team underperforming. I really hope a new coach can get more out of him going forward.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1217 » by euphorbus » Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:14 am

The Hornets' new coach should take Batum aside and say, "You are 6' 8"--2.06 meters. If you want to play this coming season, you need to learn how to set a screen. Cody here will show you how it's done."
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1218 » by catch20two » Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:23 am

LofJ wrote:https://www.atthehive.com/2018/4/23/17244740/feature-what-went-wrong-for-the-2017-18-charlotte-hornets

I knew Batum was bad this season, but the math is damning considering how much he is paid. He is easily the player most responsible for the team underperforming. I really hope a new coach can get more out of him going forward.

Clifford leaned on Batum too much when it wasn’t even necessary and played him despite being injured when we had a valuable replacement in Lamb.

The same way I blame Clifford for playing a hampered and injured Batum in the playoffs that cost us Game 6 against the Heat in Charlotte when it was clear that he couldn’t move well enough to defend anyone.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1219 » by Diop » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:50 am

catch20two wrote:
LofJ wrote:https://www.atthehive.com/2018/4/23/17244740/feature-what-went-wrong-for-the-2017-18-charlotte-hornets

I knew Batum was bad this season, but the math is damning considering how much he is paid. He is easily the player most responsible for the team underperforming. I really hope a new coach can get more out of him going forward.

Clifford leaned on Batum too much when it wasn’t even necessary and played him despite being injured when we had a valuable replacement in Lamb.

The same way I blame Clifford for playing a hampered and injured Batum in the playoffs that cost us Game 6 against the Heat in Charlotte when it was clear that he couldn’t move well enough to defend anyone.

History has shown that injured Batum sucks, but we kept trying to force it
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1220 » by yosemiteben » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:11 pm

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