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120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread

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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1281 » by Bassman » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:14 am

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Nic Batum says he told Hornets coach James Borrego he’d be fine playing with the second unit if Borrego wants to keep young guys Washington, Bridges and Bacon as starters.


He might be a lot of things (or not be a lot of things) but no one could say that he is a locker room or team chemistry cancer type.


You cant be when you're ultra passive. When you're there to collect the check with minimal effort, it just flows. If you know, you know.


Precisely. What a dismal investment.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1282 » by LofJ » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:43 am

I hate this thread title more and more all the time and it isn't even my money.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1283 » by KEMBAtheMETEOR » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:33 am

apparently Nic measured in at 6'8 1/2 barefoot...which means he could very well have been listed as 6'10 in shoes all these years. He's taller than Bismack and Marvin lol
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1284 » by Najee12 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:11 am

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Nic Batum says he told Hornets coach James Borrego he’d be fine playing with the second unit if Borrego wants to keep young guys Washington, Bridges and Bacon as starters.


He might be a lot of things (or not be a lot of things) but no one could say that he is a locker room or team chemistry cancer type.


When your best compliment as an NBA player making $25 million per year is "he is willing to come off the bench," it's not a good thing about which to boast. It tells me Nicolas Batum wants to play as little as possible and collect as much money as possible.

Some of you people are bending over way too far to defend Batum.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1286 » by Chapelchilla » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:30 pm

This is likely a case of addition by subtraction. His awful effort could have rubbed off. At least his minutes can go to young guys who WANT to play hard and prove themselves....
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1287 » by hotrod » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:43 pm

Read on Twitter
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Hopefully they sit him the rest of the year.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1288 » by KembaWalker » Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:16 pm

How can someone who gives so little effort get hurt so much
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1289 » by LofJ » Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:17 pm

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Read on Twitter
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Hopefully they sit him the rest of the year.


Yeah, that's a season ending injury, tough blow for us. :devil:
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1290 » by BigSlam » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:45 pm

He’s expected to be out 3-4 weeks with the broken finger.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1291 » by Diop » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:15 pm

in 6 games Batum is averaging 5 rebounds, 4 assists while shooting 42% from three.

Do I dare to hope he can maintain this enough to make him tradeable?
Does it make him tradeable?
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1292 » by Hornet Mania » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:27 pm

I would be pleasantly surprised if anyone took him off our hands, but I don't they they will. Marv is the one who I think is playing his way onto a playoff roster.
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Post#1293 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:05 pm

Hes averaging 3 points a game.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1294 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:04 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Hes averaging 3 points a game.

Hey! He's got 4.8 per 36! :lol:
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1295 » by SWedd523 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:35 pm

Imagine getting paid $25.5 million **** dollars to perform at the level he is. Unreal
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1296 » by Diop » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:31 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Hes averaging 3 points a game.

:rofl: I deliberately ignored that stat, although i team with stars might not give a crap about scoring, valuing the assists and boards more.

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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1297 » by KEMBAtheMETEOR » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:54 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Hes averaging 3 points a game.

Hey! He's got 4.8 per 36! :lol:

doing a complete 180 here: Bismack is averaging over 18 points per 36 minutes.

You read that correctly. Batum is averaging under half of Bismack's PPG, in nearly double the MPG.

Nic has gone full Boris Diaw. He has completely given up on being a contributor for the Hornets.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1298 » by Snidely FC » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:01 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Hes averaging 3 points a game.

Hey! He's got 4.8 per 36! :lol:

doing a complete 180 here: Bismack is averaging over 18 points per 36 minutes.

You read that correctly. Batum is averaging under half of Bismack's PPG, in nearly double the MPG.

Nic has gone full Boris Diaw. He has completely given up on being a contributor for the Hornets.


I just don't think he is a fit with the young players. Borrego said he likes Batum's veteran stabilizing effect, but I don't see that at all. I see a severe disconnect in style of play. It's what makes his return from injury and to the line-up most dispiriting. Win or lose the play and interplay of the young guys to start the season - they play at a tempo and with an energy he cannot match - was fun to watch. With Batum out there? Not so much
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1299 » by remi_222 » Thu Dec 5, 2019 5:42 am

Batum has now a french radio show. And yesterday the topic was abt contract in the NBA nowadays.
He was absolutely ok to talk abt his as an example, saying that when he signed it he was shocked by the amount, and then realized that 2-3yrs after the same type of contract would be signed by average player.
He also mentionned that nobody (from MJ to Borego) told him to change his style, added that everybody knpw in the NBA that he'll never be the 25pts/g type of player but someone who facilitates the game for other, things that doesnt pop up to your eyes when you watch the stat line.
More interesting for his and Hornets' future, he said that he wasnt sure what to decide for next yr :
- opt for the 27M and being able to use that money to finance all his projects aver here in France (he's co-owner of the best french bball club, ASVEL, own his former club as a kid, ...)
- opt out and decide de find a better challenge

I guess what would be your position about his dilema, but even if he doesnt score and translate a lot on the floor, dont you admit that as a facilitator he's the one that can change a change by his faculties to anticipate and pass the ball at the right person ?
Also admiting that it was always his principle defalut : always following the rules, and never has been "mean" enough to look for more.
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Re: 120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread 

Post#1300 » by DY_nasty » Thu Dec 5, 2019 12:37 pm

remi_222 wrote:Batum has now a french radio show. And yesterday the topic was abt contract in the NBA nowadays.
He was absolutely ok to talk abt his as an example, saying that when he signed it he was shocked by the amount, and then realized that 2-3yrs after the same type of contract would be signed by average player.
He also mentionned that nobody (from MJ to Borego) told him to change his style, added that everybody knpw in the NBA that he'll never be the 25pts/g type of player but someone who facilitates the game for other, things that doesnt pop up to your eyes when you watch the stat line.
More interesting for his and Hornets' future, he said that he wasnt sure what to decide for next yr :
- opt for the 27M and being able to use that money to finance all his projects aver here in France (he's co-owner of the best french bball club, ASVEL, own his former club as a kid, ...)
- opt out and decide de find a better challenge

I guess what would be your position about his dilema, but even if he doesnt score and translate a lot on the floor, dont you admit that as a facilitator he's the one that can change a change by his faculties to anticipate and pass the ball at the right person ?
Also admiting that it was always his principle defalut : always following the rules, and never has been "mean" enough to look for more.

this has been false for years

you gotta actually come to the ball to be a facilitator of said ball. he runs from possessions constantly and has to be forced to run anything

he's regressed each time he's checked his bank account

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