120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread

SWedd523 · Post #1401 » by **SWedd523** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:39 pm

vorbis wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:I assume the stretch is implied

depending on if there's actually a Hayward S&T, not necessarily implied imo

If he's waived then there's no trade

Post #1402 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:41 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Can we waive him, resign at a lower salary, then trade him to BOS?

In don’t think so. I’m pretty sure there is an extended period of time that a team has to wait before signing their own waived players.

It essentially stops teams/players from restructuring contacts or double dipping with 1 team.

Post #1403 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:47 pm

Looks like he’s signing with the Clippers as soon as he is waived.

CuseMayne · Post #1404 » by **CuseMayne** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:52 pm

So his stench will loom over our franchise for a few more years. What a treat.

In all seriousness though, what a damn joke.

amcoolio · Post #1405 » by **amcoolio** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:09 pm

My confidence in this franchise is at an all time low

BuzzCity · Post #1406 » by **BuzzCity** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:12 pm

I know we needed to clear $9ish mill to sign Hayward...we cleared $18mill given still owing Batum $9mi this year.

I wanna say that was already factoring in the signing of our rookies but maybe just Melo.

Any know how much cap we currently have?

amcoolio · Post #1407 » by **amcoolio** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:22 pm

Does it matter anymore? we clearly don't use it properly. I'd rather be hardcapped so we don't hand out any more stupid ass contracts

Liver_Pooty · Post #1408 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:26 pm

Probably front load the hell out of Haywards contract.

amcoolio · Post #1409 » by **amcoolio** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:29 pm

How we turn a 27M expiring contract which is an asset considering the amount of teams that want space for next season into a negative is beyond me

You absolutely give OKC or NYK a first round pick to eat Batum or Cody Zeller instead of making this move

But instead Mitch is insane enough to think we'll be East finals contenders with this roster and we absolutely had to keep Cody Zeller for our Finals push

Radu_Hornets · Post #1410 » by **Radu_Hornets** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:31 pm

Why couldn’t we just pay some tax to get Hayward ? Without waiving batum. And just paying the tax

Post #1411 » by **yosemiteben** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:35 pm

Radu_Hornets wrote:Why couldn’t we just pay some tax to get Hayward ? Without waiving batum. And just paying the tax

We didn't have the cap space to sign Hayward. Wasn't an issue with tax

SWedd523 · Post #1412 » by **SWedd523** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:48 pm

Radu_Hornets wrote:Why couldn’t we just pay some tax to get Hayward ? Without waiving batum. And just paying the tax

Can only go over the cap to retain your players, not sign new ones

BobsBuddy · Post #1413 » by **BobsBuddy** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:51 pm

Somewbody please expain to me what happened in this Hayward deal?
We were going to stretch his 27 mil remaining over 3 years so now we get 2 more second round draft picks (Whose? What years?)
Do we still "Stretch Batum?" IF no what is the saLARY WE ARE WAIVING? If he is going to resign with LAC Do we get anything back for him players or $$$? How about Rosier? LAC wants him why aren't we gtting saomething back? $$$$$ I"M CONFUSED???????????????

James Gatz · Post #1414 » by **James Gatz** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:55 pm

BobsBuddy wrote:Somewbody please expain to me what happened in this Hayward deal?
We were going to stretch his 27 mil remaining over 3 years so now we get 2 more second round draft picks (Whose? What years?)
Do we still "Stretch Batum?" IF no what is the saLARY WE ARE WAIVING? If he is going to resign with LAC Do we get anything back for him players or $$$? How about Rosier? LAC wants him why aren't we gtting saomething back? $$$$$ I"M CONFUSED???????????????

We didn't have cap to sign Hayward so we were forced to waive and stretch Batum or find a team to take on his contract. We could not find a team. So we got 2 2nds for creating a TPE for Boston.

We don't get anything back from Batum unless someone claimed him on waivers, which will not happen. Once he clears, he will sign with LAC.

Post #1415 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 7:20 pm

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LofJ · Post #1416 » by **LofJ** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 7:54 pm

Thanks for the parting gift Nic, I do not wish you luck with the Clippers.

Post #1417 » by **JDR720** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 8:50 pm

BigSlam wrote:

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Sometimes the best solution is to do nothing at all. This is one of those situations.

Post #1418 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 9:09 pm

LofJ wrote:Thanks for the parting gift Nic, I do not wish you luck with the Clippers.

An ACL injury for him would be nice.

Rays Pompadour · Post #1419 » by **Rays Pompadour** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 9:18 pm

I thought the trade to get Batum was a good one. Much like the situation with Kemba when he earned All-NBA, Batum was the beneficiary of the massive cap increase following the new TV deal.

Always was a neat dude, but Batum was never going to live up to that contract. And the Hornets were never going to pay to get rid of it. The decision to waive Batum to acquire Hayward was (and is) opportunity cost.

DY_nasty · Post #1420 » by **DY_nasty** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 9:40 pm

never gonna wish injury on the guy. but i hope that he has substandard service in all of his dining experiences for the rest of his days