It's the Dog Days of Summer: Here's what worries me

Snidely FC · Post #1 » by **Snidely FC** » Sun Sep 6, 2015 7:45 pm

It's the Dog Days of Summer! What, me worry? (here's what worries me about the Hornets upcoming season):

Kemba Walker: Finally surrounded by talent and depth, will his winning pedigree shine through, leading the team to new heights, or will he play like there's :15 secs in the game and he's the team's only option? Also: Jeremy Lin, 'nuff said!

MKG: Isn't Nic Batum a SF? Seriously, when did Nic Batum become a SG? Wait, isn't MKG a SF? Wait, can MKG shoot like Nic Batum, the SF? Wait . . .

Coach Clifford: "Nic Batum is a SF!" "Frank Kaminsky is too raw to play." "Jeremy Lin is our best PG." "Jeremy Lin is our best SG." "Marvin Williams is a PF." "I know what to expect with Tyler Hansbrough on the floor." "I didn't play Lamb because he looked tired."

Jeremy Lamb: Which came first, the sleepy eyelids or the way he plays?

Al Jeff: He's still here.

Cody Zeller: Still setting screens at the foul line, still forced to pretend he's McBob . . . losing playing time to Spencer, Frank, Tyler, Marvin . . .

Frank Kaminsky: Can he avoid the curse of CHA, keeping his shooting stroke while maintaining his awesome Dork-Elvis vibe? Will he remain faithful to olive_triangurl?

Jeremy Lin: Can he find the success he enjoyed in NY . . . as a backup PG? (PLEASE DON"T ANSWER THAT!)

Al Jeff: But seriously, will Big Al own the Paint, or will continued body failure cause him to move like a can of paint?

Spencer Hawes: Pre-C or Post-C (C= clippers)?

Tyler Hansbrough: Will he be this year's Jason Maxiell? More to the point: can I root for a team that has this "Gentleman" on it?

Marvin Williams: Is he Clifford's choice for backup SF? Or does he steal minutes from Cody and (gulp) Frank?

PJ Hairston: what tomfoolery does PJ have in store for us? I can't wait!

Aaron Harrison: Halfway through the season he reveals he is actually Andrew Harrison.

Elliott Williams: proves that now that he is healthy he is better than Hairston and Harrison combined, but they cut him anyway, he gets picked up by ATL, helps them win the EC championship, and wins comeback player of the year. JK.

Brian Roberts: Who?

What if: CHA plays great . . . but CLE, CHI, MIA, IND, WAS, TOR, DET, MIL, and BOS play better?

Other than that, I don't worry about much. You?

Eoghan · Post #2 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Sep 6, 2015 9:02 pm

Batum is rendered completely worthless b/c in Clifford's "offense" he is relegated to standing around the three point line whilst Kemba and Al eat up all the clock with their usual jackassery.

Kemba: Continues to play like Stephon Marbury without the athleticism and size.

Al Jefferson: Is still there.

Zeller: Doesn't do much but the advanced defensive metrics love him so he stays overrated.

Lamb: stays glued to the bench

Roberts: Nothing worries me about this man. GOAT.

Lin: Plays like he didn't take less money to play in Charlotte, actually just sucks.

MKG: Doesn't stay healthy, still hasn't discovered bicep curls.

Kaminsky: Can only shoot (i.e. can't defend anything and passing/dribbling gets exposed)

Hawes: Causes locker room mutiny by wearing "Vote for Trump" button on warm-ups.

POS that shall remain nameless: Sees one millisecond of camera time.

Marvin: Resigned for #spacing.

PJ: See Roberts, Brian.

Eliot Williams: N/A

Harrison: reveals that he is actually a third, previously unknown Harrison twin, Harpo Harrison and makes Cory Higgins look legit.

Clifford: Doesn't get fired 2 weeks into season.

HornetJail · Post #3 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Sep 6, 2015 9:18 pm

MKG: doesn't stay healthy
Al: way too much Alfense
Kemba: way too much Alfense
Batum: way too much Alfense
Zeller: doesn't make strides in his shooting and basically levels out as a hustle player
Lin: someone on here actually personally injures lin to make juancesta shut the **** up
Roberts: the above scenario involving Lin getting injured and Roberts gets off the bench
Hawes: forces everyone in the locker room to use Obama toilet paper and still doesn't play defense
Kaminsky: he is basically a 7'1 Morrison
Lamb: PJ outplays him and still only shoots 32%
PJ: shoots 32%
Marvin: is forced to see playing time due to injuries to MKG and Zeller and then gets traded for Bitchkieff Morris
Hansbrough: doesn't get waived, gets Cho to sign his brother, and we have to look at two punchable faces all year
Daniels: Lamb and PJ suck and Daniels still doesn't get playing time

Hornet Mania · Post #4 » by **Hornet Mania** » Sun Sep 6, 2015 10:25 pm

What worries me:

-We never get above the 7th seed in the next two seasons, and never win a playoff game.
-Justice Winslow flashes a ton of potential off Miami's bench while Frank inexplicably loses minutes to Spencer Hawes.
-Noah Vonleh begins to grow into a valuable player for Portland.
-Batum leaves at the end of this season OR we throw the super-max at him just to stick around.
-We also lock ourselves into Al for 2-3 more years.
-We trade a future pick for immediate help at the deadline, but that help actually sucks ala Tyrus Thomas.

I don't know enough about the coaching staff intends to fit this group together to be worried about them individually. 100% of my Hornet-related worries at the moment are related to this team never rising above a fringe playoff candidate and paying a hefty price in picks and/or cap space for the privilege.

Post #5 » by **yosemiteben** » Sun Sep 6, 2015 11:06 pm

My biggest concern is that Kemba won't be able to be successful in an offensive system that emphasizes efficient ball movement over iso breakdowns. I'm worried the vision our coaching staff has for our offense, which I think is the right way this team needs to go, doesn't suit Kemba's game well.

Benjamin Linus · Post #6 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Sun Sep 6, 2015 11:35 pm

Hornet Mania wrote:What worries me:

-We never get above the 7th seed in the next two seasons, and never win a playoff game.
-Justice Winslow flashes a ton of potential off Miami's bench while Frank inexplicably loses minutes to Spencer Hawes.
-Noah Vonleh begins to grow into a valuable player for Portland.
-Batum leaves at the end of this season OR we throw the super-max at him just to stick around.
-We also lock ourselves into Al for 2-3 more years.
-We trade a future pick for immediate help at the deadline, but that help actually sucks ala Tyrus Thomas.

I don't know enough about the coaching staff intends to fit this group together to be worried about them individually. 100% of my Hornet-related worries at the moment are related to this team never rising above a fringe playoff candidate and paying a hefty price in picks and/or cap space for the privilege.

Pretty much share the same concerns to a T.

Cheeze · Post #7 » by **Cheeze** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 4:01 pm

What worries me is that the cup is half full...and I just don't know what to do about that.

Post #8 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 4:41 pm

Are you guys literally actively worried about every player on our roster, or are those just the items you would identify as worst case scenarios?

JuanCesta · Post #9 » by **JuanCesta** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 4:42 pm

Here is what converns me

kemba: will he be humble enough to accept that Lin is the superior player and should be the primary ball handler and leader of this team? Or will he try to go macho man alpha like Harden, Melo and Kobe to the detriment of the team? Kemba should realize that this is Lin's team and Lin will ultimately decide the wins on this team. Will walker accept a secondary role and bit part role?

Big Al: will he demand inefficient post ups like Dwight or take long brick like boozer? Or will he let Lin run the offense and create open looks for them. Lin's bread n butter is pick n roll so Al better set good screens

MKG: Lin is a superb ball handler and open court passer. He gives shooters plenty open looks just ask Stve Novak, or Parsons or Fields. Will MKg be able to shoot from Lin's magnificent open passes?

Clifford: is he concerned about team winning? Or is he looking at best interests of other players and marginalizing Lin like McHale and Scott and Woodson?

Finally M Jordan. Will he allow Lin to be the face of the franchise or sell him short like D Morey

Post #10 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 5:16 pm

We've officially reached parody poster status.

Liver_Pooty · Post #11 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 5:26 pm

yosemiteben wrote:We've officially reached parody poster status.

It's not even humorous anymore. Just plain stupid.

Snidely FC · Post #12 » by **Snidely FC** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 6:14 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Are you guys literally actively worried about every player on our roster, or are those just the items you would identify as worst case scenarios?

definitely the latter, and was also hoping to have some fun with it.

My biggest concern is very close to your post:

My biggest concern is that Kemba won't be able to be successful in an offensive system that emphasizes efficient ball movement over iso breakdowns. I'm worried the vision our coaching staff has for our offense, which I think is the right way this team needs to go, doesn't suit Kemba's game well.

... but I would add Al. I worry that the two featured players on the roster, Kemba and Al, aren't suited to an emphasis on efficient ball movement.

Post #13 » by **fatlever** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 7:08 pm

JuanCesta wrote:Here is what converns me

kemba: will he be humble enough to accept that Lin is the superior player and should be the primary ball handler and leader of this team? Or will he try to go macho man alpha like Harden, Melo and Kobe to the detriment of the team? Kemba should realize that this is Lin's team and Lin will ultimately decide the wins on this team. Will walker accept a secondary role and bit part role?

Big Al: will he demand inefficient post ups like Dwight or take long brick like boozer? Or will he let Lin run the offense and create open looks for them. Lin's bread n butter is pick n roll so Al better set good screens

MKG: Lin is a superb ball handler and open court passer. He gives shooters plenty open looks just ask Stve Novak, or Parsons or Fields. Will MKg be able to shoot from Lin's magnificent open passes?

Clifford: is he concerned about team winning? Or is he looking at best interests of other players and marginalizing Lin like McHale and Scott and Woodson?

Finally M Jordan. Will he allow Lin to be the face of the franchise or sell him short like D Morey

@JuanCesta - This is your last warning. STOP BEING RIDICULOUS. I don't know if you are a poorly disguised troll or just a fan who is living in an alternate state of reality. Regardless, your posts do nothing but derail threads. If you want to discuss Lin rationally, you are welcome to do so. However if you continue with your over-the-top Lin comments you will be suspended and/or banned. Mods, please be on the lookout for further infractions and take action.

JuanCesta · Post #14 » by **JuanCesta** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 7:46 pm

Firstly I'd like to apologize to the mods and fellow members. I have read terms and regulations again and I do not see where I went out of line. I have not insulted anyone, not posted profanity or trolled. I talk about Lin and Hornets to the best of my knowledge. I appreciate if someone lets me know where I went against rules an regulations

I have never disguised myself. I am a for hard Lin fan and I would nt be here if not for Lin. If that is unwelcome on realGM pls let me know. A lot if Lin fans like myself become team fans eventually

Also diehard Lin fans hbe been hurting for a long time through empty promises and the treatment of our hero. Some f the entails are a reflection of that. I just love Lin and believe he is the real deal

Again apologies if I can't support my guy and share my opinion on him. I'll not post here for the next few days.

HornetJail · Post #15 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 7:46 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Are you guys literally actively worried about every player on our roster, or are those just the items you would identify as worst case scenarios?

Mine were worst case

Post #16 » by **fatlever** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 8:12 pm

JuanCesta wrote:Firstly I'd like to apologize to the mods and fellow members. I have read terms and regulations again and I do not see where I went out of line. I have not insulted anyone, not posted profanity or trolled. I talk about Lin and Hornets to the best of my knowledge. I appreciate if someone lets me know where I went against rules an regulations

I have never disguised myself. I am a for hard Lin fan and I would nt be here if not for Lin. If that is unwelcome on realGM pls let me know. A lot if Lin fans like myself become team fans eventually

Also diehard Lin fans hbe been hurting for a long time through empty promises and the treatment of our hero. Some f the entails are a reflection of that. I just love Lin and believe he is the real deal

Again apologies if I can't support my guy and share my opinion on him. I'll not post here for the next few days.

You are more than welcome to post as long as your posts are not derailing discussion. You might think that you are just innocently discussing your favorite player on the team board where he plays, however, you have such a warped perception of Lin that it is impossible to have a rational discussion with you. Your posts only serve to either rile up other posters, either with anger or laughter. That is not good for the overall health and discussion of the board. The mods appreciate that you are not insulting others or using profanity, but derailing discussion with outlandish posts is also a big no no and equally frowned upon. It seems your only agenda here to to tell everyone how great Lin is, how awful everyone in his NBA life has been to him, how the team needs to bow down to his greatness and how the other players on the team are inferior to Lin. I am sorry, but if you can't see the harm in your actions, then I do not know what else to tell you. This type of behavior may have been tolerated in other forums or websites, but it will not be tolerated here. Thanks for understanding.

Post #17 » by **fatlever** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 8:24 pm

My Main Concerns for the Season (pretty much the same as others)

1. Al Jefferson is only marginally in better shape, but has done nothing to improve his defense. Yet Clifford still does not hold him accountable for either his lack of conditioning or lack of effort on defense.

2. MKGs jumper takes a step back and he is still reluctant to shoot 3s.

3. Zeller doesn't show improvement, either because he has plateaued as a player or because his shoulder injury took away valuable practice time.

4. Batum never really feels at home in Charlotte, the team or community, and spends most of the season thinking about his next location, obviously leaving next summer.

5. Kemba continues being Kemba, a great guy, great motor, great heart, fearless, but inefficient, streaky with a lack of vision.

6. Lamb's demeanor once again lands him in a coaches doghouse where spends the season being labeled as misunderstood.

7. Marvin plays in front of either Zeller or Frank for most of the year.

8. We land in the 8th seed and get swept again by Lebron.

9. Another painfully slow start once again causes the media to ignore our team and players for the season.

10. We are boring to watch.

Kswiss · Post #18 » by **Kswiss** » Mon Sep 7, 2015 9:34 pm

fatlever wrote:
JuanCesta wrote:Firstly I'd like to apologize to the mods and fellow members. I have read terms and regulations again and I do not see where I went out of line. I have not insulted anyone, not posted profanity or trolled. I talk about Lin and Hornets to the best of my knowledge. I appreciate if someone lets me know where I went against rules an regulations

I have never disguised myself. I am a for hard Lin fan and I would nt be here if not for Lin. If that is unwelcome on realGM pls let me know. A lot if Lin fans like myself become team fans eventually

Also diehard Lin fans hbe been hurting for a long time through empty promises and the treatment of our hero. Some f the entails are a reflection of that. I just love Lin and believe he is the real deal

Again apologies if I can't support my guy and share my opinion on him. I'll not post here for the next few days.

You are more than welcome to post as long as your posts are not derailing discussion. You might think that you are just innocently discussing your favorite player on the team board where he plays, however, you have such a warped perception of Lin that it is impossible to have a rational discussion with you. Your posts only serve to either rile up other posters, either with anger or laughter. That is not good for the overall health and discussion of the board. The mods appreciate that you are not insulting others or using profanity, but derailing discussion with outlandish posts is also a big no no and equally frowned upon. It seems your only agenda here to to tell everyone how great Lin is, how awful everyone in his NBA life has been to him, how the team needs to bow down to his greatness and how the other players on the team are inferior to Lin. I am sorry, but if you can't see the harm in your actions, then I do not know what else to tell you. This type of behavior may have been tolerated in other forums or websites, but it will not be tolerated here. Thanks for understanding.

Yea Clutchfans has a few trolls that like to create fake accounts and artificially "support" Lin by being obnoxious and anti-team (Lakers/Hornets). Lakers mods recognized it early and just banned them which really made the forums a positive place to be. I know HornetsPlanet did the same thing to the Clutchfan guys. Regardless it's not my call, I just hope Lin can help the team make the playoffs this year and prove everybody wrong. Go Buzz

P.S. Lin is all about the team, and if anyone really was Lin fan they wouldn't try to put down the whole team when all Lin cares about is winning. That has no place on a Hornets fan forum.

Liver_Pooty · Post #19 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Sep 8, 2015 2:08 am

I'm not worried about much of anything. I think we're one of the more improved teams in the league to be honest.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #20 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Tue Sep 8, 2015 2:16 am

I honestly just have one worry about this team ... can Cliff coach it? Last year made me doubt.