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Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:28 pm
by fatlever
picking up from here
BlackOutBuzz wrote:And here. we. go...
@WojVerticalNBA
Atlanta is sending guard Jeff Teague to Indiana as part of a three-way deal, league sources tell @TheVertical.
Three-way deal with Atlanta, Indiana and Utah, with George Hill going to the Jazz, league sources tell @TheVertical.
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That just took two potential destinations away from Lin - Indiana and Utah.
You have to really like a Pacers core of Teague, George and Turner. Hill will be great for Utah as well. Improves them big time while they wait on Exum. Hill - Hood - Hayward - Favors - Gobert with Exum, Burks, Burke and Lyles. Thats a solid 9-man rotation with lots of youth and upside.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:33 pm
by BlackOutBuzz
Don't love the value for Utah, giving up twelve for Hill. Plus that really kills pick values after that point. Pretty sure that means pick 22 is barely worth Felton.
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Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:35 pm
by BeesWax
Really don't see the value for Utah. Would have thought they could land way more with that pick. Maybe there is a pick we haven't heard yet going their way as well.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:35 pm
by Marino
BlackOutBuzz wrote:Don't love the value for Utah, giving up twelve for Hill. Plus that really kills pick values after that point. Pretty sure that means pick 22 is barely worth Felton.
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They don't really need another young player. They just want a veteran PG to hold down the fort until Exum is ready to take the reigns. I don't really get it for Indiana. Not sure how Ellis and Teague will work together.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:36 pm
by fatlever
BlackOutBuzz wrote:Don't love the value for Utah, giving up twelve for Hill. Plus that really kills pick values after that point. Pretty sure that means pick 22 is barely worth Felton.
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Yeah, but the Jazz didnt need another young player in the mix. They needed a proven vet PG in the worst way. Plus I think Hill will be great next to two wings who can also make plays - Hood and Hayward.
Pacers seemingly get the best of the trade however by landing best player in the deal.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:37 pm
by fatlever
Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell 7m7 minutes ago
This Atlanta-Indy-Jazz 3-way seemingly kills speculation on @hornets ending up with the 12th pick.
NotKaminsky
@MullensMafia
Was Kemba on the block??? Rumor was #Hornets were trying to move up for Utah's 12th, Jazz obviously hunting for a PG
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:38 pm
by amcoolio
Why not just take Teague. Utah needs another playmaker, they have a bunch of finishers.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:38 pm
by fatlever
Marino wrote:BlackOutBuzz wrote:Don't love the value for Utah, giving up twelve for Hill. Plus that really kills pick values after that point. Pretty sure that means pick 22 is barely worth Felton.
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They don't really need another young player. They just want a veteran PG to hold down the fort until Exum is ready to take the reigns. I don't really get it for Indiana. Not sure how Ellis and Teague will work together.
Forget Ellis, he's on a short deal and they can move him.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:39 pm
by chabber
BlackOutBuzz wrote:Don't love the value for Utah, giving up twelve for Hill. Plus that really kills pick values after that point. Pretty sure that means pick 22 is barely worth Felton.
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I'm with you on Utah. Why wouldn't Utah want Teague instead? Must have to do with their contracts. Too lazy to look it up, but Indy ends up with the best player. Not good for us.
It sounded like Horford was open to coming back after the playoffs, but I'm guessing that's over with.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:39 pm
by fatlever
amcoolio wrote:Why not just take Teague. Utah needs another playmaker, they have a bunch of finishers.
Not sure, but Hill is better off the ball than Teague and Utah runs a lot of their offense thru Hayward and Hood. Hill also better defender of the two. I like the fit for Utah.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:40 pm
by BlackOutBuzz
My point is that I don't think Hill is worth the 12, and that even if they didn't use it they could've done better.
Like...trading it for Teague instead. Though Utah obviously prefers Hill, or else they could've cut Indy out entirely.
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Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:40 pm
by chabber
fatlever wrote:Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell 7m7 minutes ago
This Atlanta-Indy-Jazz 3-way seemingly kills speculation on @hornets ending up with the 12th pick.
NotKaminsky
@MullensMafia
Was Kemba on the block??? Rumor was #Hornets were trying to move up for Utah's 12th, Jazz obviously hunting for a PG
What were these rumors? I don't follow Bonnell.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:41 pm
by fatlever
BlackOutBuzz wrote:My point is that I don't think Hill is worth the 12, and that even if they didn't use it they could've done better.
Like...trading it for Teague instead. Though Utah obviously prefers Hill, or else they could've cut Indy out entirely.
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We can agree that Hill isnt worth the 12. I will give you that. Hell, he was trade 4 years ago for a higher pick, the one that ended up at Leonard. Certainly he has less value now than he did when he was much younger.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:42 pm
by fatlever
chabber wrote:fatlever wrote:Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell 7m7 minutes ago
This Atlanta-Indy-Jazz 3-way seemingly kills speculation on @hornets ending up with the 12th pick.
NotKaminsky
@MullensMafia
Was Kemba on the block??? Rumor was #Hornets were trying to move up for Utah's 12th, Jazz obviously hunting for a PG
What were these rumors? I don't follow Bonnell.
I'm not sure, other than some random stuff that popped up yesterday about us wanting to trade up, but I dismissed those because it came from a very random source.
Re: Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:45 pm
by BlackOutBuzz
chabber wrote:fatlever wrote:Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell 7m7 minutes ago
This Atlanta-Indy-Jazz 3-way seemingly kills speculation on @hornets ending up with the 12th pick.
NotKaminsky
@MullensMafia
Was Kemba on the block??? Rumor was #Hornets were trying to move up for Utah's 12th, Jazz obviously hunting for a PG
What were these rumors? I don't follow Bonnell.
Utah-based reporter tweeted "I hear the Hornets want to move up," and then never said anything else about it. That lead to Utah fans speculating about Kemba and Batum in a sign-and-trade.
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Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:49 pm
by chabber
Aye, so probably like the Hayward ones floating around now, gotcha.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:53 pm
by LofJ
I imagine the Jazz were the ones that did the inquiring after they found out we were interested in moving up. They probably asked about Kemba's availability and I imagine Cho asked for Exum, the 12th, and the future firsts they own. Dennis Lindsey probably hung up the phone shortly after.
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:17 pm
by LofJ
The Bulls just took the Knicks down Michael Jordan style. Wow...
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:19 pm
by yosemiteben
Does NYK now have space for a max level FA big or no?
Re: Around the NBA 9.0
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:22 pm
by chabber
Who'd have thought that when Rose and Melo finally end up playing together, it'd be for the Knicks.