Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

BeesWax · Post #1381 » by **BeesWax** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:54 pm

Diop wrote:
Kembastockton wrote:
Mystical Apples wrote:
I assume there's a point so I suggest you make it.

Only transcendent talents can carry a team when they are the only star.

Kevin Love and co are a bit better than that Bobcats team

But if you are talking about taking that much money off the court it makes a huge difference. Also I am not sure how much better Love and company are. Love never really won a lit in Minny either. He had one season of 40 wins then a 31 and the rest are in the 20s and teens.

I am not saying trade for Kyrie either here but there as a valid point made in comparison to Kemba. When you handicap things the way this was done it doesn't give a fair look at the results.

Kembastockton · Post #1382 » by **Kembastockton** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:56 pm

Maybe so Diop, but once again Kevin hasn't asked to be traded.

Mystical Apples · Post #1383 » by **Mystical Apples** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:15 pm

Kembastockton wrote:
Mystical Apples wrote:
Kembastockton wrote:
Who was it again that was the star of the second worst team in NBA history?

I assume there's a point so I suggest you make it.

Only transcendent talents can carry a team when they are the only star.

Yeah, again, unless you're strawmanning it's unclear who or what you're responding to. If someone asserted he couldn't "carry a team" it certainly wasn't me -- the bar I offered was far lower.

LofJ · Post #1384 » by **LofJ** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:52 pm

The Kings owe us for the Bellineli trade. We helped them clear cap and we gave them a first.

We send Lamb and O'Bryant to Sacramento for Carter and Giles.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6929074

It's basically the Bellineli trade but in reverse.

Kembastockton · Post #1385 » by **Kembastockton** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:44 pm

Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. If so someone tell Magic he owes us for the Kobe/Divac trade.

Roddy B for 3 · 7/1/2019 (I broke a mirror on 7-1-2012)

How would a Wiggins for Batum/Monk trade be received? If negatively, how about Wiggins for MKG/Batum?

HornetJail · Post #1387 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:50 pm

I think Wiggins would be a great get but I think that's too steep for us.

Kembastockton · Post #1388 » by **Kembastockton** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:16 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:I think Wiggins would be a great get but I think that's too steep for us.

I am pretty sure the wolves are going to want to see how well these guys can play together before trading a core peice.

LofJ · Post #1389 » by **LofJ** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:54 pm

If the Irving trade is voided we could get a kings ransom for Kemba from the Celtics. But I'd destitute myself before I agreed to trade him to Boston. The more likely outcome is that Boston either agrees to up their offer or they have to keep IT.

Mystical Apples · Post #1390 » by **Mystical Apples** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:00 pm

LofJ wrote:If the Irving trade is voided we could get a kings ransom for Kemba from the Celtics. But I'd destitute myself before I agreed to trade him to Boston. The more likely outcome is that Boston either agrees to up their offer or they have to keep IT.

Yeah there's a very fine line between Charlotte helping Boston and the Celtics playing themselves by dealing with a younger, and deeper, roster compared to the Cavs.

Braggins · Post #1391 » by **Braggins** » Tue Sep 5, 2017 7:01 am

I just came up with the most glorious trade idea of all time.

Dwight Howard for...

Spoiler:

+ Hezonja + 2018 2nd

Bring on the and1's fellas

316Hornets · Post #1392 » by **316Hornets** » Tue Sep 5, 2017 7:12 am

Braggins wrote:I just came up with the most glorious trade idea of all time.

Dwight Howard for...
Spoiler:
BIYOMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ Hezonja + 2018 2nd

Bring on the and1's fellas

I'd do it if they make that 2nd a 1st.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #1393 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Tue Sep 5, 2017 2:12 pm

OK, that's funny!

HornetJail · Post #1394 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Sep 5, 2017 10:42 pm

Braggins wrote:I just came up with the most glorious trade idea of all time.

Dwight Howard for...
Spoiler:
BIYOMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ Hezonja + 2018 2nd

Bring on the and1's fellas

i would do this in December or January if Dwight doesn't screen our guys and just parks his ass in the paint on offense. Otherwise Dwight>Biz.

Orlando probably wants nothing to do with this, unless they want to shave off a year of Biz's contract.

Braggins · Post #1395 » by **Braggins** » Wed Sep 6, 2017 12:07 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Braggins wrote:I just came up with the most glorious trade idea of all time.

Dwight Howard for...
Spoiler:
BIYOMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ Hezonja + 2018 2nd

Bring on the and1's fellas

i would do this in December or January if Dwight doesn't screen our guys and just parks his ass in the paint on offense. Otherwise Dwight>Biz.

Orlando probably wants nothing to do with this, unless they want to shave off a year of Biz's contract.

It wasnt really a serious proposal, just some fun for the Biz fan club.

Post #1396 » by **JDR720** » Wed Sep 6, 2017 6:37 pm

Need to see how Monk does before doing that trade.

Would definitely trade Nic for Wiggins, 50/50 on trading MKG and Nic for Wiggins but would probably do that too if MKG keeps being meh.

Wiggins contract will be pretty bad, but he has legitimate upside so he could be worth it.

ChokeFasncists · Post #1397 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:05 pm

What you think?

Knicks:

Out: Melo
In: MKG+pick

Hornets:

Out: MKG
In: Gordon+pick+whichever SF

Rockets:

Out: Gordon+2 picks+whichever SF
In: Melo

HornetJail · Post #1398 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:04 am

LofJ · Post #1399 » by **LofJ** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:02 pm

If by mid-season the Thunder are better, but still not close to competing with the Warriors and Westbrook tells the team that he intends to follow Lebron next year should we make an offer for Paul George?

Marvin, JOB, Graham, and our 2019 1st for Paul George.

We'd be in trouble next season with no easy way to replace Marvin, but would a half season of George and a quite probable trip to the ECF be worth it?

If I didn't respect Marvin as much as I do my answer would be an unequivocal yes, but I'd hesitate to just dump him like that for only half a season. But then again this franchise has never made it to a conference finals, so it wouldn't be an easy decision.

HornetJail · Post #1400 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:33 am

LofJ wrote:If by mid-season the Thunder are better, but still not close to competing with the Warriors and Westbrook tells the team that he intends to follow Lebron next year should we make an offer for Paul George?

Marvin, JOB, Graham, and our 2019 1st for Paul George.

We'd be in trouble next season with no easy way to replace Marvin, but would a half season of George and a quite probable trip to the ECF be worth it?

If I didn't respect Marvin as much as I do my answer would be an unequivocal yes, but I'd hesitate to just dump him like that for only half a season. But then again this franchise has never made it to a conference finals, so it wouldn't be an easy decision.

The East is as wide open as it's ever been and is ever going to be in this lifespan of this core. I disagree with the premise of this scenario and OKC will get much better offers than this, but if it's there I think we bite the bullet and do it and hope against hope that we rattle off a deep enough run to make PG think about re-signing here long term. MKG and PG share SF and PF duties based on matchups and we have Dwight/MKG/PG/Batum/Kemba with Zeller/Frank/Lamb/Monk/MCW off the bench? Hell yeah. Have a hard time believing anybody but Boston or Cleveland could take us down. If Monk looks good, that team is still good for a 4-5 seed the next year even if PG bolts.