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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1621 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:51 am

I think we’re going to go after PG. Chos job is on the line
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1622 » by Diop » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:46 am

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If Nic was actually healthy he would be a big time piece for any contender especially OKC

yeah I don't think I would be chasing Batum with the way his season has gone. Maybe try for Rubio?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1623 » by Diop » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:04 am

if we are going to insist on trying to win now, offer Frank Kaminsky for Dinwiddie.

I'm about done with Frank and his sometimes ok play
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1624 » by Benjamin Linus » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:16 am

Not sure if OKC does a Batum/PG swap, but it sounds great for us, because even if he leaves, we'll have capspace to balance out the roster.

But if our FO doesn't want to go that route, here's another (less exciting) idea linking various trade rumors...

CHA in: Clarkson, Brewer
CHA out: Batum

LAL in: PG
LAL out: Clarkson, Brewer

OKC in: Batum
OKC out: PG

The Lakers fast forward to the inevitable and bring in PG, while also shedding a contract.
OKC already starts two ball dominate scorers and two elite defenders, Batum could fit in well on that team.
We get a backup PG and a stopgap wing that will come off the books.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1625 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:27 pm

If the Hornets trade for PG and he leaves the team only ends up with about $2-4 mil of cap space after signing a draft pick. Yeah, it would be good to be well away from the tax line, but it wouldn't actually buy the team any flexibility.

I'm still for that trade though. I would expect OKC to prefer Mello for Batum though if it were even halfway serious.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1626 » by Snidely FC » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:40 pm

Lamb + MCW to PHX for Jared Dudley + Davon Reed
MKG to NYK for Courtney Lee + Willie Hernangomez
Nic Batum + Julyan Stone to SAC for George Hill + Garrett Temple

Kemba Walker, George Hill, Garret Temple
Courtney Lee, Treveon Graham, Malik Monk
Jared Dudley, Dwayne Bacon, Davon Reed
Marvin Williams, Frank Kaminsky, JOB
Dwight Howard, Cody Zeller, Hernangomez
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1627 » by HornetJail » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:34 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/248342/Hornets-Attempted-To-Acquire-Jimmy-Butler-From-Bulls

Wiretap says we tried to snag Jimmy Butler in the offseason but they didn't like what we offered.

I bet we offered them two of MKG, Zeller, 11 and hoped that would be enough.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1628 » by HornetJail » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:35 pm

Diop wrote:if we are going to insist on trying to win now, offer Frank Kaminsky for Dinwiddie.

I'm about done with Frank and his sometimes ok play

no chance Brooklyn does that. Dinwiddie is actually contributing
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1629 » by HornetJail » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:37 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:Not sure if OKC does a Batum/PG swap, but it sounds great for us, because even if he leaves, we'll have capspace to balance out the roster.

But if our FO doesn't want to go that route, here's another (less exciting) idea linking various trade rumors...

CHA in: Clarkson, Brewer
CHA out: Batum

LAL in: PG
LAL out: Clarkson, Brewer

OKC in: Batum
OKC out: PG

The Lakers fast forward to the inevitable and bring in PG, while also shedding a contract.
OKC already starts two ball dominate scorers and two elite defenders, Batum could fit in well on that team.
We get a backup PG and a stopgap wing that will come off the books.

that's awful. We give up all the value for PG, yet get Clarkson and Brewer's contracts :lol:

Plain and simple, if we can get PG for Batum, we do it. I'm not expecting Batum to return to form this season till he sits out/has surgery or whatever he needs to do to get his body and mind straight.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1630 » by Joest2003 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:03 pm

We should do anything we can to try to get Julius Randle. I would offer Frank and a second round but I doubt lakers would go for that
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1631 » by 316Hornets » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:05 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Benjamin Linus wrote:Not sure if OKC does a Batum/PG swap, but it sounds great for us, because even if he leaves, we'll have capspace to balance out the roster.

But if our FO doesn't want to go that route, here's another (less exciting) idea linking various trade rumors...

CHA in: Clarkson, Brewer
CHA out: Batum

LAL in: PG
LAL out: Clarkson, Brewer

OKC in: Batum
OKC out: PG

The Lakers fast forward to the inevitable and bring in PG, while also shedding a contract.
OKC already starts two ball dominate scorers and two elite defenders, Batum could fit in well on that team.
We get a backup PG and a stopgap wing that will come off the books.

that's awful. We give up all the value for PG, yet get Clarkson and Brewer's contracts :lol:

Plain and simple, if we can get PG for Batum, we do it. I'm not expecting Batum to return to form this season till he sits out/has surgery or whatever he needs to do to get his body and mind straight.


I wouldn't count on Batum getting anything right until he starts having to work again for his next contract. This guy is on coast mode, enjoying life's pleasures, and basically is a marshawn lynch media type guy on the court, only there to collect his check. If we can get two playable guys out of him, I'm all for it.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1632 » by catch20two » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:39 pm

Joest2003 wrote:We should do anything we can to try to get Julius Randle. I would offer Frank and a second round but I doubt lakers would go for that

I would offer Frank and a 1st rounder for Randle. I’d offer Zeller and a 1st rounder for him. Randle is silently the Lakers best player but you wouldn’t know because of all the hoopla around Lonzo, Kuzma, and Ingram being their future.

Randle is the prototypical modern day NBA C.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1633 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:07 am

The issue with trading for Randle is that he is a RFA after this year. If the Hornets just trade for him and make no other moves they go over the tax.

I do think that Randle would fit well with both Frank and Cody though. I would rather have some other sort of trade to get him if the Hornets were really interested.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1634 » by catch20two » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:12 am

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:The issue with trading for Randle is that he is a RFA after this year. If the Hornets just trade for him and make no other moves they go over the tax.

I do think that Randle would fit well with both Frank and Cody though. I would rather have some other sort of trade to get him if the Hornets were really interested.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1635 » by JDR720 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:04 am

Dwight and mcw for henson and delly

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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1636 » by Rich4114 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:27 pm

Lin is done unfortunately. I thought there was a chance we make a play for him this year but that patella injury jeopardizes his career.

Getting out of the Batum contract even if it’s for bench contributors would be enormous for us. He is not the reason Kemba took the next step yet he is credited with it.

Love the PG idea but OKC may not give up on him this quick. Randle is another great fit here. Just trade him for Frank?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1637 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:38 pm

Rich4114 wrote: Randle is another great fit here. Just trade him for Frank?

That trade straight up would put the team over the tax threshold. Then next year Randle is a RFA which would put the team way over without some sort of salary dump.

Hornets are in cap nightmare land now.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1638 » by HornetJail » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:29 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:
Rich4114 wrote: Randle is another great fit here. Just trade him for Frank?

That trade straight up would put the team over the tax threshold. Then next year Randle is a RFA which would put the team way over without some sort of salary dump.

Hornets are in cap nightmare land now.

JOB would make up the salary difference I believe.

But yeah re-signing him without moving someone would be problematic. As it stands we probably need to move someone anyway because this **** ain't working
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1639 » by Rich4114 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:37 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:
Rich4114 wrote: Randle is another great fit here. Just trade him for Frank?

That trade straight up would put the team over the tax threshold. Then next year Randle is a RFA which would put the team way over without some sort of salary dump.

Hornets are in cap nightmare land now.


Ah, I figured there would be a cap issue with that. Maybe there’s a way to also get out of Batum or Marvin’s deals if we take KCP back and let him walk this summer.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#1640 » by SeanBobcats » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:12 am

Anyone got any reasonable Kemba trade ideas? Obviously it wouldn't be ideal to trade him, but that is probably what would give us the best odds to lose at this point. I do not think we should trade him unless we get the right offer of course

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