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Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2017 8:01 pm
by JMAC3
I thought it would be interesting to see where everyone ranks our current roster. Especially with all this trade talk going on. So here is mine...

1. Kemba
2. Batum
3. Zeller
4. MKG
5. Lamb
6. Marco
7. Marvin
8. Frank
9. Hawes
10. Sessions
11. Hibbert
12. Graham
13. Wood
14. Roberts


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Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2017 8:19 pm
by catch20two
1. Kemba
2. Batum
3. MKG
4. Zeller
5. Lamb
6. Marv
7. Frank
8. Belinelli
9. Hawes
10. Sessions
11. Hibbert
12. Graham
13. Roberts
*14. Wood

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2017 8:39 pm
by Vanderbilt_Grad
1. Kemba
2. Batum
3. Zeller
4. MKG
5. Marv
6. Frank
7. Beli
8. Lamb
9. Hawes
10. Sessions
11. Hibbert
12. Graham
13. Roberts
14. Wood

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2017 11:19 pm
by Eoghan
1. Batum
2. Kemba
3. MKG
4. Marvin
5. Zeller
6. Lamb
7. Marco
8. Frank
9. Sessions
10. Roberts
11. Hawes
12. Hibbert
*13. Graham
*14. Wood

*not played enough for judgment

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2017 11:27 pm
by fatlever
sure, why not

1. Kemba
2. Batum

3. Zeller
4. MKG
5. Marvin

6. Frank
7. Marco
8. Lamb

9. Sessions
10. Hibbert
11. Hawes

12. Graham
13. Wood
14. Roberts

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Sun Jan 8, 2017 11:42 pm
by Liver_Pooty
Depressing part about these list is myself along with a lot of people thought MKG would be our best player, or if not that our most important one. He's not even close in either category. Pisses me off because I love the guy.

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 12:39 am
by UNCNYC
1. Kemba
2. Batum
3. Zeller
4. MKG
5. Lamb

6. Marco
7. Marvin
8. Frank
9. Hawes
10. Sessions

11. Roberts
12. Hibbert
13. Graham
14. Wood

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 12:41 am
by UNCNYC
Glad we got rid of Harrison. Waste of roster spot

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 12:42 am
by UNCNYC
If healthy I would have had zeller number 2 and maybe even 1 THIS year

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 1:09 am
by Joest2003
fatlever wrote:sure, why not

1. Kemba
2. Batum

3. Zeller
4. MKG
5. Marvin

6. Frank
7. Marco
8. Lamb

9. Sessions
10. Hibbert
11. Hawes

12. Graham
13. Wood
14. Roberts


Common man how do you have Frank over Lamb? Just about every single stat says otherwise. Not tryin to be a dick jus honestly curious your reasoning over this. Frank has been the most disappointing player the past 2 season for me.

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 1:46 am
by Mystical Apples
Player value is usually situational so I won't rank them but I'm a little surprised at how low Marvin is here. Basically sixth man territory with a high of 4 and low of 7.

This for a true 2-way spacer who routinely defends 3-4 and sometimes the 5. Finding that versatility isn't easy.

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 1:55 am
by Mystical Apples
I'd view this as ranking players CHA could least afford to lose in a Playoff series. In that way Marvin is 3rd, IMO.

Of course that's different from trade value but I suspect on a 1-year expiring most NBA teams would see it similarly.

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 2:07 am
by Vanderbilt_Grad
Current consensus rankings:

1.17 Kemba
1.83 Batum

3.50 Zeller
3.67 MKG

5.67 Marvin
6.17 Lamb
6.83 Marco
7.17 Frank

9.67 Hawes
9.67 Sessions

11.17 Hibbert
12.33 Graham
12.67 Roberts
13.50 Wood

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 2:14 am
by catch20two
Mystical Apples wrote:I'd view this as ranking players CHA could least afford to lose in a Playoff series. In that way Marvin is 3rd, IMO.

Of course that's different from trade value but I suspect on a 1-year expiring most NBA teams would see it similarly.

I can concur with this because Frank is his replacement.

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 2:25 am
by Braggins
I cant wait to see who averages the lowest rank between Hawes and Roy.

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 3:38 am
by bws94
1 Kemba
2 Batum
3 Zeller
4 MKG
5 Marvin
6 Marco
7 Lamb
8 Frank
9 Sessions
10 Hawes
11 Graham
12 Hibbert
13 Roberts
14 Wood

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 4:51 am
by fatlever
Joest2003 wrote:Common man how do you have Frank over Lamb? Just about every single stat says otherwise. Not tryin to be a dick jus honestly curious your reasoning over this. Frank has been the most disappointing player the past 2 season for me.


Don't confuse my ranking of Frank with my lack of disappointment in Frank. Frank has disappointed me more than any other player this season, except maybe MKG. Perhaps that is my fault for having set my expectations for Frank too high. To answer your question, I value Frank's skill set at his position more than I value Lamb's. Regardless, there is not much separation between Frank, Marco and Lamb for me, which is why I have those 3 on their own tier. The gap between the MKG, Marvin, Cody and the Frank, Lamb, Marco tier is vast.

Anyway, why does everything lately have to dissolve into Frank vs Lamb? That debate is getting old.

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 4:58 am
by fatlever
Mystical Apples wrote:Player value is usually situational so I won't rank them but I'm a little surprised at how low Marvin is here. Basically sixth man territory with a high of 4 and low of 7.

This for a true 2-way spacer who routinely defends 3-4 and sometimes the 5. Finding that versatility isn't easy.


Any ranking of Marvin lower than 5 is absurd and I can certainly understand the debate that he should be ahead of MKG, especially now that Marvin has found his 3pt stroke a little bit. That first month was rough for Marvin. As Clifford has said many times so far this year, Marvin has been our best defender.

What I don't quite understand is why Marvin doesn't play more minutes. I can only assume Clifford is trying to keep him fresh, but I'm not sure we have that luxury. I'd like to see Marvin pushing 30-32 minutes every night. Marvin has only played 30+ minutes 9 times and 31+ minutes twice.

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 4:58 am
by BatumtheGlue
Kemba
Nic
Cody

MKG
Marvin
Marco

Lamb
Frank
Spencer





Ramon
Roy
Treveon
Brian
Christian

Re: Ranking Hornets players 1-14

Posted: Mon Jan 9, 2017 5:00 am
by fatlever
Mystical Apples wrote:I'd view this as ranking players CHA could least afford to lose in a Playoff series. In that way Marvin is 3rd, IMO.

Of course that's different from trade value but I suspect on a 1-year expiring most NBA teams would see it similarly.


Is that Cody you are knocking out of the top 3? You've seen how we've played with and w/out Cody this year. I'm a huge fan of what Marvin brings, see my last post, but I have a hard time putting his value ahead of Cody right now, especially considering what we have behind Cody.