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Fire everyone and clean house.

Trade Kemba,Batum,MKG,Marvin and Cody in the off season for picks and lets start over and go in a rebuilding stage and do it right this time cause we never gong to win with the team we got we just be fighting for the 8 seed every year so like I said lets blow this thing up and rebuild and hopfully we can contend in 3-4 years.

and then we'll move to las vegas because Jordan likes to gamble and why not?

Kemba, MKG, Frank, and Cody are the only players we need to keep unless we get more than a dollar return on the dollar for them.

We should have bailed on Batum and Marvin at the deadline when we realized that we weren't gonna make the playoffs and they didn't move the needle. Hopefully they can be moved in the offseason

No it definitely does not. And why did we need yet another thread for this crap?

We have one of the best starting lineups in the league and we are locked into great value deals. Its time to see what we can do in the playoffs next year.

This team could potentially contend for the #1 seed in the East next year.

With room and tradeable assets to add at the deadline...

Why would you blow that up?



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amcoolio wrote:We should have bailed on Batum and Marvin at the deadline when we realized that we weren't gonna make the playoffs and they didn't move the needle. Hopefully they can be moved in the offseason

This. I would say we need more of a retooling than to blow it up, but I still think we really should have tried to trade Batum and probably Marvin (if he has any value).

How has someone not been fired yet? Is MJ really that bad of an owner?


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TheKingofSting wrote:How has someone not been fired yet? Is MJ really that bad of an owner?

Yes.

All for naught if we don't start drafting guys that can either play or can be traded for those that can. Cho blows at drafting, Cho blows at resigning guys and now Cho blows at trades. Cho blows basketball.

TheKingofSting wrote:How has someone not been fired yet? Is MJ really that bad of an owner?


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If we keep this up somebody is definitely going to get fired at season's end. It would be too knee jerk of a reaction to fire anyone right now when just about a month or so ago we were in like 4th place in the East.

I personally believe it's Clifford that has to go but even that is sketchy because there's a lot worse options that we could be stuck with.

It'll depend on what coaches look like they are available come April-June. If there's a guy like Dave Joerger or Mike Malone I think we should roll with that. I honestly probably wouldn't even mind giving somebody like Sam Cassell a shot at this point lol. I just know we're limited to the 2nd round at best with Clifford before he's outcoached.

If only we could have drafted Drummond.

And Cliff isn't and shouldn't be going anywhere. There is zero chance that happens regardless of how we finish the season or who is available this summer.

Cliff gotta go!

catch20two wrote:Cliff gotta go!

If he wasn't fired after the 2014-15 season, he sure as hell won't be now.

catch20two wrote:Cliff gotta go!

and his favorite player Nic, too.

yosemiteben wrote:If only we could have drafted Drummond.

And Cliff isn't and shouldn't be going anywhere. There is zero chance that happens regardless of how we finish the season or who is available this summer.

catch20two wrote:

TheKingofSting wrote:How has someone not been fired yet? Is MJ really that bad of an owner?


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If we keep this up somebody is definitely going to get fired at season's end. It would be too knee jerk of a reaction to fire anyone right now when just about a month or so ago we were in like 4th place in the East.

I personally believe it's Clifford that has to go but even that is sketchy because there's a lot worse options that we could be stuck with.

It'll depend on what coaches look like they are available come April-June. If there's a guy like Dave Joerger or Mike Malone I think we should roll with that. I honestly probably wouldn't even mind giving somebody like Sam Cassell a shot at this point lol. I just know we're limited to the 2nd round at best with Clifford before he's outcoached.

We are 5-22 in our last 27 games and have lost 12 in a row on the road. What coach anywhere else in the league wouldn't be on the hotseat at the least?



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TheKingofSting wrote:We are 5-22 in our last 27 games and have lost 12 in a row on the road. What coach anywhere else in the league wouldn't be on the hotseat at the least?

One that took your franchise from a complete joke to making the playoffs 2 out of 3 years, who is well liked by the players and FO, and who has clear examples of providing some recruiting value?

Are we really blaming him for these losses?

yosemiteben wrote:

catch20two wrote:Cliff gotta go!

If he wasn't fired after the 2014-15 season, he sure as hell won't be now.

Because this would be his 2nd time missing the playoffs in 4 seasons in what was supposed to be a season of improving on the playoffs appearance.

yosemiteben wrote:Are we really blaming him for these losses?

How could we not?

If that's the case then no coach in the league should be blamed for losses.

catch20two wrote:

yosemiteben wrote:Are we really blaming him for these losses?

How could we not?

If that's the case then no coach in the league should be blamed for losses.

Roster considerations are usually taken into account.

yosemiteben wrote:

catch20two wrote:

yosemiteben wrote:Are we really blaming him for these losses?

How could we not?

If that's the case then no coach in the league should be blamed for losses.

Roster considerations are usually taken into account.

Zach Lowe said it best. I don't remember his exact words but if our consistency of winning hinges on Cody Zeller then we're in a world of trouble. Which brings us back to Clifford's coaching.

I disagree with the premise of this thread. Batum and MKG and even Marvin are luxury players, complimentary players who need to be part of team depth, not relied on as primary options. IMO the team needs improved depth, not to be blown up.