Hornets sign MCW

Braggins · Post #361 » by **Braggins** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:37 am

Lmao. I forgot about Dy_Nasty. He was probably the most anti-Kemba person on this forum and he completely stopped posting as soon as Kemba got good.

MCW = significantly more upside than Kemba... Lol

catch20two · Post #362 » by **catch20two** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:44 am

Braggins wrote:Lmao. I forgot about Dy_Nasty. He was probably the most anti-Kemba person on this forum and he completely stopped posting as soon as Kemba got good.

MCW = significantly more upside than Kemba... Lol

There were several of them. There was Sik Infant, thruthefire, leolovinliberal, and even BigSlam. I can’t remember them all but there were more anti-Kemba people than pro-Kemba people for years. Biz was more respected than Kemba when I came onto this board.

mrknowitall215 · Post #363 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:53 am

yosemiteben wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Your argument just doesn’t make any sense and defies logic. That’s why I don’t understand what your stance is. Probably what’s more irrational about your argument is that you’re so adamant about it when you don’t have any grounds to stand on

It's not an irrational argument. What is not disputed:

(A) MCW has shot significantly below historical averages.

(B) Our bench has been terrible offensively.

A directly impacts B. Increasing MCW's efficiency would increase our bench's offense. What is being argued is the extent of the hypothetical improvement, but the principle that there would be at least some improvement is not really debatable and not irrational.

(A) MCW has been one of the most inefficient point guards in the league for several years now. Yes, he's currently shooting significantly below his historical averages of already historical levels of inefficiency, which is every reason for the coaching staff to stop playing him, but they're still playing him. That's the reason for all of the commotion, ranting & raving that you keep trying to defend for whatever reason

(B) The bench is terrible offensively because of MCW. Every offense that MCW has been a part of throughout his career has been terrible due to his presence

mrknowitall215 · Post #364 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:06 am

catch20two wrote:
Braggins wrote:Lmao. I forgot about Dy_Nasty. He was probably the most anti-Kemba person on this forum and he completely stopped posting as soon as Kemba got good.

MCW = significantly more upside than Kemba... Lol

There were several of them. There was Sik Infant, thruthefire, leolovinliberal, and even BigSlam. I can’t remember them all but there were more anti-Kemba people than pro-Kemba people for years. Biz was more respected than Kemba when I came onto this board.

Those were the good ole days. I may be wrong but I think every mod except 'JDR720' was anti-Kemba during the early stages. I believe 'thruthefire' was a friend of DJ Augustin's so he was bitter about Kemba making him expendable in Charlotte. 'Leolovinliberal' said that Myck Kabongo is guaranteed to be better than Kemba. 'Fatlever' and I did bets on who would turn out better out of Kemba and Eric Bledsoe. 'Sik Infant' wasn't a big fan of Kemba and changed his username to go incognito. It's a extremely long list of posters that weren't in favor of Kemba until maybe a season or two ago

mrknowitall215 · Post #365 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:07 am

catch20two wrote:

Is this real?

Braggins · Post #366 » by **Braggins** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:12 am

Thinking Bledsoe, or someone on that level, would be better than Kemba was totally reasonable, but i remember some posters throwing out names like MCW, Tyler Ennis, and Tony Wroten, as players that were better than Kemba.

mrknowitall215 · Post #367 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:22 am

Braggins wrote:Thinking Bledsoe, or someone on that level, would be better than Kemba was totally reasonable, but i remember some posters throwing out names like MCW, Tyler Ennis, and Tony Wroten, as players that were better than Kemba.

By all means it was totally reasonable. Still could shake out one way or the other with the remaining years of their career as well. I remember some wanting to trade Kemba "while he had value" to draft Tyler Ennis who was allegedly a sure bet to be better than Kemba. You can add Brandon Knight to that list. I remember engaging in debates about Marcus Smart assuredly would be better than Kemba. The list could really go on

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #368 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:28 am

Kemba's FG% was below .400 for 3 of his first 4 years. He got far fewer assists than most folks were used to seeing from PGs at the time. His defense was abysmal his first two years. It's very much to his credit that he has become the player he is today, but it shouldn't be shocking that many folks weren't on the Kemba bandwagon early on. I'll be the first to admit that for those first 4 years I thought that drafting Kemba had probably been a mistake.

catch20two · Post #369 » by **catch20two** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:42 am

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Kemba's FG% was below .400 for 3 of his first 4 years. He got far fewer assists than most folks were used to seeing from PGs at the time. His defense was abysmal his first two years. It's very much to his credit that he has become the player he is today, but it shouldn't be shocking that many folks weren't on the Kemba bandwagon early on. I'll be the first to admit that for those first 4 years I thought that drafting Kemba had probably been a mistake.

Looking at those teams was beyond the percentages. Kemba had a 15+ PER and positive BPM every season except his rookie season. Even while inefficient he was the team’s brightest glimmer of hope.

Post #370 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:14 am

MCW thread

Let's continue in Kemba thread.

DY_nasty · Post #371 » by **DY_nasty** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:26 pm

hell yeah its real

edit: lmao i'm showing that to my friends :lol:

Robot Rock · Post #372 » by **Robot Rock** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:28 pm

leolovinliberal was hilariously wrong every time he clicked "Submit."

countryboi · Post #373 » by **countryboi** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:25 pm

this dude is trash....he is bad at pretty much everything on offense but shoots the ball like he is good at it.....i would rather let Monk get those minutes

catch20two · Post #374 » by **catch20two** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:25 pm

If I ever was in this predicament MCW would instantly become my best friend in the whole entire world.

HornetJail · Post #375 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 1:12 am

can someone with a twitter please tweet that at MCW

Eoghan · Post #376 » by **Eoghan** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 4:35 am

"Saving Lives" the MCW thread.

Lwcasu · Post #377 » by **Lwcasu** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:06 pm

If MCW could make a layup, how much different would he be from Lonzo Ball?

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #378 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:17 pm

Lwcasu wrote:If MCW could make a layup, how much different would he be from Lonzo Ball?

Quite a bit. Ball has a pass first mentality and loves to get his teammates involved. He has amazing court vision too.

MCW can run an offense but his mindset looks really different to me. He lacks good court vision and he frequently is obviously looking for his own shot rather than trying to get the team running smoothly.

MCW might have been an interesting prospect back before shooting was so critical.

HornetJail · Post #379 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Lwcasu wrote:If MCW could make a layup, how much different would he be from Lonzo Ball?

Ball actually has court vision. MCW is roughly one Lonzo Ball away from being Lonzo Ball.

Robot Rock · Post #380 » by **Robot Rock** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:13 pm

MCW isn't even as good as Gelo, let alone Lonzo. He's Cory Higgins on an off night.