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Post#1 » by HoopsMalone » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:48 am

1) Total # of regular season wins

2) Playoff Seed

3) Total # of playoff wins

4) games played -MKG

5) games played -Zeller

6) Marv 3pt%

7) MKG - 3PM

8) Frank 3pt%

9) Monk 3PM

10) Monk 3pt%

11) Monk PPG

12) Kemba - All-star (yes or no)

13) Batum - PPG

14) Dwight - Reb/gm

15) Dwight - blk/gm

16) MCW - Total pts as a hornet (season)

17) Lamb- ppg

18) bacon - games played

19) Dwight FT%

20) Zeller 3PM


I'll judge the winner at season's end based off who has the best overall pulse of the team



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Post#2 » by HoopsMalone » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:59 am

HoopsMalone wrote:1) Total # of regular season wins - 49

2) Playoff Seed - 4

3) Total # of playoff wins - 5

4) games played -MKG - 71

5) games played -Zeller - 62

6) Marv 3pt% - 38%

7) MKG - 3PM - 14

8) Frank 3pt% - 36%

9) Monk 3PM - 61

10) Monk 3pt% - 35%

11) Monk PPG - 7.2 ppg

12) Kemba - All-star (yes or no) Yes

13) Batum - PPG - 14.2

14) Dwight - Reb/gm - 10.3

15) Dwight - blk/gm - 1.0

16) MCW - Total pts as a hornet (season) -172

17) Lamb- ppg 10.4

18) bacon - games played - 22

19) Dwight FT% - 51%

20) Zeller 3PM - 4.


I'll judge the winner at season's end based off who has the best overall pulse of the team



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Post#3 » by fatlever » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:17 pm

I might have to revise before season starts, but first guess w/out seeing any training camp or preseason

1) Total # of regular season wins - 40

2) Playoff Seed - 8

3) Total # of playoff wins - 1

4) games played -MKG - 70

5) games played -Zeller - 74

6) Marv 3pt% - 35%

7) MKG - 3PM - 5

8) Frank 3pt% - 33%

9) Monk 3PM - 90

10) Monk 3pt% - 34%

11) Monk PPG - 10

12) Kemba - All-star (yes or no) - no

13) Batum - PPG - 12

14) Dwight - Reb/gm - 11

15) Dwight - blk/gm - 1.5

16) MCW - Total pts as a hornet (season) - 300

17) Lamb- ppg - 11

18) bacon - games played - 18

19) Dwight FT% - 55%

20) Zeller 3PM - 2
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Post#4 » by euphorbus » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:52 pm

Good predictions, fats! I would only quibble with #20. I bet that Zeller makes at least half a dozen threes this year--and more than Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. At least Cody has normal mechanics on his shot.
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Post#5 » by HornetJail » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:49 am

1) Total # of regular season wins - 52

2) Playoff Seed - 4

3) Total # of playoff wins - 6

4) games played -MKG - 70

5) games played -Zeller - 67

6) Marv 3pt% - 38%

7) MKG - 3PM - 32

8) Frank 3pt% - 36%

9) Monk 3PM - 140

10) Monk 3pt% - 40%

11) Monk PPG - 10

12) Kemba - All-star - yes

13) Batum - PPG - 14

14) Dwight - Reb/gm - 11

15) Dwight - blk/gm - 1.1

16) MCW - Total pts as a hornet (season) 375

17) Lamb- ppg - 10

18) bacon - games played - 20

19) Dwight FT% - 53%

20) Zeller 3PM - 10
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Post#6 » by GoBobs » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:04 am

Total # of regular season wins - 49

2) Playoff Seed - 3

3) Total # of playoff wins - 13 lose in finals to GSW

4) games played -MKG - 68

5) games played -Zeller - 65

6) Marv 3pt% - 34%

7) MKG - 3PM - 14

8) Frank 3pt% - 33%

9) Monk 3PM - 53

10) Monk 3pt% - 32%

11) Monk PPG - 7.8

12) Kemba - All-star (yes or no) - yes

13) Batum - PPG - 13.1

14) Dwight - Reb/gm - 12.3

15) Dwight - blk/gm - 1.6

16) MCW - Total pts as a hornet (season) - 186

17) Lamb- ppg - 7.3

18) bacon - games played - 13

19) Dwight FT% - 58%

20) Zeller 3PM - 13
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Post#7 » by HoopsMalone » Thu Oct 5, 2017 5:09 am

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Post#8 » by HornetJail » Thu Oct 5, 2017 10:17 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:1) Total # of regular season wins - 46

2) Playoff Seed - 6

3) Total # of playoff wins - 6

4) games played -MKG - 70

5) games played -Zeller - 67

6) Marv 3pt% - 38%

7) MKG - 3PM - 32

8) Frank 3pt% - 36%

9) Monk 3PM - 160

10) Monk 3pt% - 38%

11) Monk PPG - 13

12) Kemba - All-star - yes

13) Batum - PPG - 12

14) Dwight - Reb/gm - 11

15) Dwight - blk/gm - 1.1

16) MCW - Total pts as a hornet (season) 450

17) Lamb- ppg - 14

18) bacon - games played - 25

19) Dwight FT% - 53%

20) Zeller 3PM - 10


If Nic is out till the New Year (seems to be the average of most of the timelines we've heard plus an extra week or two) then I'm changing some of these predictions. New predictions here.
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Post#9 » by fatlever » Thu Oct 5, 2017 10:20 pm

revised mine as well... down to 40 wins and 8th seed.
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Post#10 » by 316Hornets » Thu Oct 5, 2017 10:35 pm

1) Total # of regular season wins - 47

2) Playoff Seed - 3

3) Total # of playoff wins - 10

4) games played -MKG - 77

5) games played -Zeller - 70

6) Marv 3pt% - 35%

7) MKG - 3PM - 12

8) Frank 3pt% - 33%

9) Monk 3PM - 135

10) Monk 3pt% - 37%

11) Monk PPG - 13

12) Kemba - All-star (yes or no) - yes

13) Batum - PPG - 16.5

14) Dwight - Reb/gm - 11.2

15) Dwight - blk/gm - 1.6

16) MCW - Total pts as a hornet (season) - 625

17) Lamb- ppg - 17

18) bacon - games played - 52

19) Dwight FT% - 55%

20) Zeller 3PM - 0
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Post#11 » by HoopsMalone » Sat Oct 7, 2017 8:47 pm

Yeah this is all just for fun and that's a pretty huge preseason injury so I may as well update mine as well.


1) Total # of regular season wins - 43

2) Playoff Seed - 8

3) Total # of playoff wins - 0

4) games played -MKG - 71

5) games played -Zeller - 62

6) Marv 3pt% - 34%

7) MKG - 3PM - 21

8) Frank 3pt% - 35%

9) Monk 3PM - 147

10) Monk 3pt% - 35%

11) Monk PPG - 11.2 ppg

12) Kemba - All-star (yes or no) Yes

13) Batum - PPG - 8.3 (really not sure he plays more than a handful of games)

14) Dwight - Reb/gm - 11.5

15) Dwight - blk/gm - 1.0

16) MCW - Total pts as a hornet (season) -349

17) Lamb- ppg 12.4

18) bacon - games played - 35

19) Dwight FT% - 51%

20) Zeller 3PM - 5
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Post#12 » by Roy Tarpley » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:09 am

Hey all:

Serious question: Why do you think the Hornets regressed from 48 wins to 36 last year? They lost Lin but added Belinelli, had a full year from MKG, and Kemba even had a career year. Sure, Zeller was injured for a little bit I don't quite understand the huge dropoff from 48 to 36 wins.

Since a lot of folks here are predicting high 40 wins this year, I'm guessing that people thought last year was an aberration and the addition of DHoward will shore up the defensive holes.

I'm predicting about 44 wins this year and maybe the 6th or 7th seed.
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Post#13 » by HornetJail » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:54 am

The biggest issue was depth. We had a backup PG and a number of backup Cs that were bad beyond comprehension. Sessions outright tanked the offense 80% of the time he stepped on the court (and I wish that was an exaggeration). And then our center problem was an even bigger issue because Zeller only played 27 minutes a game for 62 games. That means that 56% of our center minutes were taken up by one of Spencer Hawes, Roy Hibbert, Miles Plumlee, Mike Tobey, Johnny O'Bryant, Christian Wood, or when things got REALLY desperate, Frank Kaminsky. Frank was the only one that was even competent more than a couple times all season, and while his offense was solid at the 5, his defense was a mess.

That doesn't even touch on the mess that was Marco Bellinelli, Brian Roberts, and the first half of Frank Kaminsky's season.

The starting five was actually top 8 or so in the entire league in +/- among qualifying frequently used lineups (I believe the cutoff was 250 minutes or more?). The problem was that we were basically playing 6 NBA players (7 when Frank was feeling it), and otherwise were giving minutes to players that shouldn't be in the NBA because we had no other choice. We've kept those 6 (or 7) guys, and added Monk, MCW, Stone, Dwight. Dwight has his drawbacks, I have low expectations for MCW and Stone, and Monk is a rookie, but all four of those guys should be vastly superior to the toxic waste we were trotting out at their respective positions.

We can go into the unluckiness factor as well (0-9 in 1-possession games, comparable point differential to OKC, who won 10+ more games than us) but that's been done to death as well.
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Post#14 » by Travers » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:11 am

Roy Tarpley wrote:Hey all:

Serious question: Why do you think the Hornets regressed from 48 wins to 36 last year? They lost Lin but added Belinelli, had a full year from MKG, and Kemba even had a career year. Sure, Zeller was injured for a little bit I don't quite understand the huge dropoff from 48 to 36 wins.

Since a lot of folks here are predicting high 40 wins this year, I'm guessing that people thought last year was an aberration and the addition of DHoward will shore up the defensive holes.

I'm predicting about 44 wins this year and maybe the 6th or 7th seed.


If you have watched the playoffs you would know Lin is their most important players besides Kemba. The team lost Lin's game and his leadership.
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Post#15 » by Roy Tarpley » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:32 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:The biggest issue was depth. We had a backup PG and a number of backup Cs that were bad beyond comprehension. Sessions outright tanked the offense 80% of the time he stepped on the court (and I wish that was an exaggeration). And then our center problem was an even bigger issue because Zeller only played 27 minutes a game for 62 games. That means that 56% of our center minutes were taken up by one of Spencer Hawes, Roy Hibbert, Miles Plumlee, Mike Tobey, Johnny O'Bryant, Christian Wood, or when things got REALLY desperate, Frank Kaminsky. Frank was the only one that was even competent more than a couple times all season, and while his offense was solid at the 5, his defense was a mess.

That doesn't even touch on the mess that was Marco Bellinelli, Brian Roberts, and the first half of Frank Kaminsky's season.

The starting five was actually top 8 or so in the entire league in +/- among qualifying frequently used lineups (I believe the cutoff was 250 minutes or more?). The problem was that we were basically playing 6 NBA players (7 when Frank was feeling it), and otherwise were giving minutes to players that shouldn't be in the NBA because we had no other choice. We've kept those 6 (or 7) guys, and added Monk, MCW, Stone, Dwight. Dwight has his drawbacks, I have low expectations for MCW and Stone, and Monk is a rookie, but all four of those guys should be vastly superior to the toxic waste we were trotting out at their respective positions.

We can go into the unluckiness factor as well (0-9 in 1-possession games, comparable point differential to OKC, who won 10+ more games than us) but that's been done to death as well.


Thanks for the excellent points. I'm not sure that the depth issue has been resolved (I don't think MCW should be in the league) and Batum's injury only exacerbates this, but Howard should help and the unluckiness factor is not insignificant. The predictions of high 40, even low 50 wins seem optimistic still. Looking forward to Monk bringing some youth excitement.
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Post#16 » by LofJ » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:15 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:The biggest issue was depth. We had a backup PG and a number of backup Cs that were bad beyond comprehension. Sessions outright tanked the offense 80% of the time he stepped on the court (and I wish that was an exaggeration). And then our center problem was an even bigger issue because Zeller only played 27 minutes a game for 62 games. That means that 56% of our center minutes were taken up by one of Spencer Hawes, Roy Hibbert, Miles Plumlee, Mike Tobey, Johnny O'Bryant, Christian Wood, or when things got REALLY desperate, Frank Kaminsky. Frank was the only one that was even competent more than a couple times all season, and while his offense was solid at the 5, his defense was a mess.

That doesn't even touch on the mess that was Marco Bellinelli, Brian Roberts, and the first half of Frank Kaminsky's season.

The starting five was actually top 8 or so in the entire league in +/- among qualifying frequently used lineups (I believe the cutoff was 250 minutes or more?). The problem was that we were basically playing 6 NBA players (7 when Frank was feeling it), and otherwise were giving minutes to players that shouldn't be in the NBA because we had no other choice. We've kept those 6 (or 7) guys, and added Monk, MCW, Stone, Dwight. Dwight has his drawbacks, I have low expectations for MCW and Stone, and Monk is a rookie, but all four of those guys should be vastly superior to the toxic waste we were trotting out at their respective positions.

We can go into the unluckiness factor as well (0-9 in 1-possession games, comparable point differential to OKC, who won 10+ more games than us) but that's been done to death as well.


Thanks for the excellent points. I'm not sure that the depth issue has been resolved (I don't think MCW should be in the league) and Batum's injury only exacerbates this, but Howard should help and the unluckiness factor is not insignificant. The predictions of high 40, even low 50 wins seem optimistic still. Looking forward to Monk bringing some youth excitement.


MCW doesn't belong in the league if you only value offense. According to real plus-minus he's the 5th best defensive point guard in the NBA after Chris Paul, Beverley, Holiday, and Lowry. On a team that allowed an absurd amount of 3 pointers last season I'll take that any day of the week. He's exactly what we need to complement Monk and Lamb on the bench.
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Post#17 » by Rich4114 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:49 pm

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Roy Tarpley wrote:Hey all:

Serious question: Why do you think the Hornets regressed from 48 wins to 36 last year? They lost Lin but added Belinelli, had a full year from MKG, and Kemba even had a career year. Sure, Zeller was injured for a little bit I don't quite understand the huge dropoff from 48 to 36 wins.

Since a lot of folks here are predicting high 40 wins this year, I'm guessing that people thought last year was an aberration and the addition of DHoward will shore up the defensive holes.

I'm predicting about 44 wins this year and maybe the 6th or 7th seed.


If you have watched the playoffs you would know Lin is their most important players besides Kemba. The team lost Lin's game and his leadership.


This really was such a huge part of it. It ruined our chemistry once Kemba had to sit down and our nonsense mess of backup PG’s checked in. That combined with Cody missing so much time as our only viable screen setter and NBA caliber two way big. Those two factors were the difference.

If one of these new PG’s we have can just be competent, factor in a healthy Cody plus Dwight then add in an improved Lamb and a natural scorer like Monk - it looks pretty good. We are also relying on improvements from Frank, better 3pt shooting from Marv and defending the 3 better. Having a constant like Dwight or Cody in the paint all game will help that tremendously.

I still think we should try to make a trade for Lin though. Even if we had to give up Marv or MKG, it would be worth it.
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Post#18 » by fatlever » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:29 pm

NBA Predictions

Hornets Record 42-40
8th seed

Stats
Player: PPG – RPG – APG
Walker: 21.5 – 4.0 – 6.5 (pts %s down, asts up)
Batum: 13.0 – 4.5 – 5.0 (55 games, will re-aggravate elbow at some pt missing more games)
Howard: 11.5 – 10.5 – 1.5 (low FG% since 2nd season)
Lamb: 11.0 – 3.5 – 2.0 (hot start)
Monk: 10.0 – 2.0 – 2.0 (rough %s)
Frank: 9.5 – 4.0 – 2.5 (plateau)
Cody: 9.5 – 5.0 – 1.5
Marvin: 8.5 – 4.5 – 1.5
MKG: 8.0 – 5.0 – 1.5 (fewest min since 2nd season)
Bacon: 7.0 – 2.0 – 1.0

EC

1. Cavs
2. Celtics
3. Wizards
4. Raptors
5. Bucks
6. Heat
7. Pistons
8. Hornets
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9. Sixers
10. Hawks
11. Magic
12. Nets
13. Knicks
14. Pacers
15. Bulls

Cavs over Hornets 4-1
Celtics over Pistons 4-1
Wizards over Heat 4-3
Bucks over Raptors 4-2
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Cavs over Bucks 4-2
Wizards over Celtics 4-3
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Cavs over Wizards 4-1

WC

1. Warriors
2. Rockets
3. Thunder
4. Spurs
5. Wolves
6. Clippers
7. Nuggets
8. Grizz
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9. Jazz
10. Pelicans
11. Blazers
12. Mavs
13. Lakers
14. Suns
15. Kings

Warriors over Grizz 4-0
Rockets over Nuggets 4-1
Thunder over Clippers 4-2
Wolves over Spurs 4-2
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Warriors over Wolves 4-1
Thunder over Rockets
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Warriors over Thunder 4-1

NBA Finals

Warriors over Cavs 4-1

Awards

MVP: Lebron
Rookie: Simmons
Defense: Gobert

1st team:
Curry
Harden
Durant
Lebron
Davis

2nd team:
Kyrie
Westbrook
George
Leonard
Towns

3rd team:
Paul
Wall
Hayward
Love
Gobert
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Post#19 » by Bassman » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:01 pm

Fats you are dedicated! I am too tired to even attempt your detailed predictions, but very much admire them.

Frankly I am more hopeful for this season than recent ones. Last year I predicted a losing record. This season I think we hit 44 wins and get the 6 seed. Had Batum not been injured maybe a stronger record. Generally I see Monk becoming a very important part of our success, Kemba maintaining his strong performance from last year and Dwight helping us more than hurting. Agree Frank starts hitting his ceiling. Marvin keeps showing signs of slowing and aging. Lamb with a better start but falls back into inconsistency by mid-season. Cody still strong in his own way. Bacon surprises and gets solid PT. MKG becomes a bench player over time but still an important situational guy depending on matchups; then gets traded at the deadline.

We pull an upset in round 1 and get beaten 4-2 in round 2.

How's that for hope?
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Post#20 » by yosemiteben » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:18 pm

My offseason prediction of us going 100-0 is nearing mathematical impossibility territory.

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