Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA)
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I remember going through the same thing, thinking wow we're going to get Justice Winslow who was supposed to go about 5 picks sooner. Then the BOS trade rumor popped up, and I thought that sounded like something we should take just because it gives us multiple swings at the plate vs another potential MKG type guy in Winslow. But alas, add him to the pile of wasted draft picks and whiffs with future stars available to us.
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I like frank but it makes sense to let him go since we have PJ and McDaneils. Frank does have potential tho and has improved a lot and if he can find the right fit especially a winner he could be missed down the line
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These are my top five for who I want with pick #1 in order
BuB Carrington
Ryan Dunn
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Kevin McCullar
Bobi Klintman
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Add another wasted lottery pick to the rubbish pile that is this team’s legacy since returning as Bobcats. Face it, the rebuild begins, first by sucking wind until all the mistakes fade away, then hoping we draft well enough to get back into the game. If you’re staying aboard as a fan, cinch up the jockstap and cup, cause we’re taking a beating.
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Rich4114 wrote:Here's the think with Frank. He was literally almost released after the trade deadline last season. He also takes up a roster spot in the front court that we probably want to give to PJ. They also can't afford him (or Lamb) if Kemba actually does re-sign. And if Kemba doesn't re-sign, Frank isn't exactly going to continue to develop into something different from what he is. So I can see the decision making perfect sense.
One of the worst decisions of all time is not taking the Celtics deal. Even if a lot of the details involved in that are total BS (I believe they are) we knew what was happening with our roster/salary cap situation and punting on a late lotto pick for future assets would've added flexibility/security that we now wish we had. That Memphis pick is looking pretty decent.
literally any of the next 4 guys would've been better
Winslow, Turner, Lyles and Booker
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Idk about Lyles...NCHeels2008 wrote:Rich4114 wrote:Here's the think with Frank. He was literally almost released after the trade deadline last season. He also takes up a roster spot in the front court that we probably want to give to PJ. They also can't afford him (or Lamb) if Kemba actually does re-sign. And if Kemba doesn't re-sign, Frank isn't exactly going to continue to develop into something different from what he is. So I can see the decision making perfect sense.
One of the worst decisions of all time is not taking the Celtics deal. Even if a lot of the details involved in that are total BS (I believe they are) we knew what was happening with our roster/salary cap situation and punting on a late lotto pick for future assets would've added flexibility/security that we now wish we had. That Memphis pick is looking pretty decent.
literally any of the next 4 guys would've been better
Winslow, Turner, Lyles and Booker
The top 9 picks are kind of amazing to look back at though, like Frank doesn't even look like a bad pick if you take out the Boston trade bull.
Towns: Stud
DAR: All-Star, but might be heading to his third team in 4 years.
Okafor: On his third team, but they just re-upped his minimum option.
Porzingis: Stud, likely getting a max offer from his second team.
Hezonja: On second team after first declined 4th year option.
WCS: Solid, but rumor is he may not get QO.
Mudiay: likely joining his third team after QO declined.
S. Johnson: See Mudiay
So 6 of the 8 guys taken ahead of Frank were given up on by their original teams earlier than he was. And it's possible 7 of the top 9 won't even see a QO.
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Hornets Picks by Year
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
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BlackOutBuzz wrote:Idk about Lyles...NCHeels2008 wrote:Rich4114 wrote:Here's the think with Frank. He was literally almost released after the trade deadline last season. He also takes up a roster spot in the front court that we probably want to give to PJ. They also can't afford him (or Lamb) if Kemba actually does re-sign. And if Kemba doesn't re-sign, Frank isn't exactly going to continue to develop into something different from what he is. So I can see the decision making perfect sense.
One of the worst decisions of all time is not taking the Celtics deal. Even if a lot of the details involved in that are total BS (I believe they are) we knew what was happening with our roster/salary cap situation and punting on a late lotto pick for future assets would've added flexibility/security that we now wish we had. That Memphis pick is looking pretty decent.
literally any of the next 4 guys would've been better
Winslow, Turner, Lyles and Booker
The top 9 picks are kind of amazing to look back at though, like Frank doesn't even look like a bad pick if you take out the Boston trade bull.
Towns: Stud
DAR: All-Star, but might be heading to his third team in 4 years.
Okafor: On his third team, but they just re-upped his minimum option.
Porzingis: Stud, likely getting a max offer from his second team.
Hezonja: On second team after first declined 4th year option.
WCS: Solid, but rumor is he may not get QO.
Mudiay: likely joining his third team after QO declined.
S. Johnson: See Mudiay
So 6 of the 8 guys taken ahead of Frank were given up on by their original teams earlier than he was. And it's possible 7 of the top 9 won't even see a QO.
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I'd even take Lyles over him
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minimum wage replacement for Frank? 23 year old 7'1 Luke Kornet?
Kornet holds the distinction of being one of only two players in NBA history to play over 300 minutes while logging a three-point attempt rate higher than 60 percent and a block percentage higher than 4 percent per Basketball Reference. The other player? Brook Lopez last season. It must be noted that Kornet has achieved the feat in each of his first two seasons.
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Searching for hidden gems and envisioning possibilities down the road is what makes rebuilding enjoyable (provided your team has a competent FO, which, in our case is questionable) .Snidely FC wrote:minimum wage replacement for Frank? 23 year old 7'1 Luke Kornet?Kornet holds the distinction of being one of only two players in NBA history to play over 300 minutes while logging a three-point attempt rate higher than 60 percent and a block percentage higher than 4 percent per Basketball Reference. The other player? Brook Lopez last season. It must be noted that Kornet has achieved the feat in each of his first two seasons.
Like both Kornet and Mudiay as relatively young developmental prospects. mudiay's durability has been less than steller but if either player can be had on the cheap, they're worth taking a look at.
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There might be a market for Marv
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hotrod wrote:?s=21
that's a perfect landing spot for Frank
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Snidely FC wrote:hotrod wrote:?s=21
that's a perfect landing spot for Frank
Why?
My picks:
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
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Losing Kaminsky for 5 million a year, ridiculous, dude will put up decent numbers there too
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Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Snidely FC wrote:hotrod wrote:?s=21
that's a perfect landing spot for Frank
Why?
if ayton and saric do all the physical heavy lifting inside then Frank can play his game
my biggest complaint about how we use centers here is how we always just leave them do die alone in the paint solo. took years off of cody's career and frank simply never got comfortable
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Wonder how long it will take before we hear the "Charlotte was so awful for my development" stories from Frank and his camp
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Chapelchilla wrote:Losing Kaminsky for 5 million a year, ridiculous, dude will put up decent numbers there too
Frank's defense has gotten worse every year he's been in the league. The guy is slow as molasses and is already 26 years old.
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Dario hasn't been that good defensively and Ayton is a work in progress on that end. And like 316 said, Frank has gotten worse on that end each yer. I'm honestly not sure that the Suns can have those 3 out together defensively.
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2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
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2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
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Good. Nothing against Frank and I wish him well but either he sucks or he was a bad fit for us.