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Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA)

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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#281 » by Rich4114 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:31 pm

I remember going through the same thing, thinking wow we're going to get Justice Winslow who was supposed to go about 5 picks sooner. Then the BOS trade rumor popped up, and I thought that sounded like something we should take just because it gives us multiple swings at the plate vs another potential MKG type guy in Winslow. But alas, add him to the pile of wasted draft picks and whiffs with future stars available to us.
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#282 » by UNCNYC » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:57 pm

I like frank but it makes sense to let him go since we have PJ and McDaneils. Frank does have potential tho and has improved a lot and if he can find the right fit especially a winner he could be missed down the line
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#283 » by Bassman » Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:02 pm

Add another wasted lottery pick to the rubbish pile that is this team’s legacy since returning as Bobcats. Face it, the rebuild begins, first by sucking wind until all the mistakes fade away, then hoping we draft well enough to get back into the game. If you’re staying aboard as a fan, cinch up the jockstap and cup, cause we’re taking a beating.
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#284 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:44 am

Rich4114 wrote:Here's the think with Frank. He was literally almost released after the trade deadline last season. He also takes up a roster spot in the front court that we probably want to give to PJ. They also can't afford him (or Lamb) if Kemba actually does re-sign. And if Kemba doesn't re-sign, Frank isn't exactly going to continue to develop into something different from what he is. So I can see the decision making perfect sense.

One of the worst decisions of all time is not taking the Celtics deal. Even if a lot of the details involved in that are total BS (I believe they are) we knew what was happening with our roster/salary cap situation and punting on a late lotto pick for future assets would've added flexibility/security that we now wish we had. That Memphis pick is looking pretty decent.


literally any of the next 4 guys would've been better

Winslow, Turner, Lyles and Booker
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#285 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:07 am

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Rich4114 wrote:Here's the think with Frank. He was literally almost released after the trade deadline last season. He also takes up a roster spot in the front court that we probably want to give to PJ. They also can't afford him (or Lamb) if Kemba actually does re-sign. And if Kemba doesn't re-sign, Frank isn't exactly going to continue to develop into something different from what he is. So I can see the decision making perfect sense.

One of the worst decisions of all time is not taking the Celtics deal. Even if a lot of the details involved in that are total BS (I believe they are) we knew what was happening with our roster/salary cap situation and punting on a late lotto pick for future assets would've added flexibility/security that we now wish we had. That Memphis pick is looking pretty decent.


literally any of the next 4 guys would've been better

Winslow, Turner, Lyles and Booker
Idk about Lyles...

The top 9 picks are kind of amazing to look back at though, like Frank doesn't even look like a bad pick if you take out the Boston trade bull.

Towns: Stud
DAR: All-Star, but might be heading to his third team in 4 years.
Okafor: On his third team, but they just re-upped his minimum option.
Porzingis: Stud, likely getting a max offer from his second team.
Hezonja: On second team after first declined 4th year option.
WCS: Solid, but rumor is he may not get QO.
Mudiay: likely joining his third team after QO declined.
S. Johnson: See Mudiay

So 6 of the 8 guys taken ahead of Frank were given up on by their original teams earlier than he was. And it's possible 7 of the top 9 won't even see a QO.

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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#286 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:01 am

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Rich4114 wrote:Here's the think with Frank. He was literally almost released after the trade deadline last season. He also takes up a roster spot in the front court that we probably want to give to PJ. They also can't afford him (or Lamb) if Kemba actually does re-sign. And if Kemba doesn't re-sign, Frank isn't exactly going to continue to develop into something different from what he is. So I can see the decision making perfect sense.

One of the worst decisions of all time is not taking the Celtics deal. Even if a lot of the details involved in that are total BS (I believe they are) we knew what was happening with our roster/salary cap situation and punting on a late lotto pick for future assets would've added flexibility/security that we now wish we had. That Memphis pick is looking pretty decent.


literally any of the next 4 guys would've been better

Winslow, Turner, Lyles and Booker
Idk about Lyles...

The top 9 picks are kind of amazing to look back at though, like Frank doesn't even look like a bad pick if you take out the Boston trade bull.

Towns: Stud
DAR: All-Star, but might be heading to his third team in 4 years.
Okafor: On his third team, but they just re-upped his minimum option.
Porzingis: Stud, likely getting a max offer from his second team.
Hezonja: On second team after first declined 4th year option.
WCS: Solid, but rumor is he may not get QO.
Mudiay: likely joining his third team after QO declined.
S. Johnson: See Mudiay

So 6 of the 8 guys taken ahead of Frank were given up on by their original teams earlier than he was. And it's possible 7 of the top 9 won't even see a QO.

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I'd even take Lyles over him
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#287 » by Snidely FC » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:59 am

minimum wage replacement for Frank? 23 year old 7'1 Luke Kornet?
Kornet holds the distinction of being one of only two players in NBA history to play over 300 minutes while logging a three-point attempt rate higher than 60 percent and a block percentage higher than 4 percent per Basketball Reference. The other player? Brook Lopez last season. It must be noted that Kornet has achieved the feat in each of his first two seasons.

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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#288 » by dmutombo321 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:10 pm

Snidely FC wrote:minimum wage replacement for Frank? 23 year old 7'1 Luke Kornet?
Kornet holds the distinction of being one of only two players in NBA history to play over 300 minutes while logging a three-point attempt rate higher than 60 percent and a block percentage higher than 4 percent per Basketball Reference. The other player? Brook Lopez last season. It must be noted that Kornet has achieved the feat in each of his first two seasons.

Searching for hidden gems and envisioning possibilities down the road is what makes rebuilding enjoyable (provided your team has a competent FO, which, in our case is questionable) .

Like both Kornet and Mudiay as relatively young developmental prospects. mudiay's durability has been less than steller but if either player can be had on the cheap, they're worth taking a look at.



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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#289 » by yosemiteben » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:42 pm

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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#290 » by Diop » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:41 am

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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#291 » by hotrod » Mon Jul 1, 2019 8:50 pm

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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#292 » by Snidely FC » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:02 pm

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that's a perfect landing spot for Frank
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#293 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:30 pm

Snidely FC wrote:
hotrod wrote:
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that's a perfect landing spot for Frank

Why?
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#294 » by Chapelchilla » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:34 pm

Losing Kaminsky for 5 million a year, ridiculous, dude will put up decent numbers there too
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#295 » by DY_nasty » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:52 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:
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that's a perfect landing spot for Frank

Why?

if ayton and saric do all the physical heavy lifting inside then Frank can play his game

my biggest complaint about how we use centers here is how we always just leave them do die alone in the paint solo. took years off of cody's career and frank simply never got comfortable
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#296 » by amcoolio » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:26 pm

Wonder how long it will take before we hear the "Charlotte was so awful for my development" stories from Frank and his camp
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#297 » by 316Hornets » Mon Jul 1, 2019 11:20 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:Losing Kaminsky for 5 million a year, ridiculous, dude will put up decent numbers there too


Frank's defense has gotten worse every year he's been in the league. The guy is slow as molasses and is already 26 years old.
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#298 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Mon Jul 1, 2019 11:40 pm

Dario hasn't been that good defensively and Ayton is a work in progress on that end. And like 316 said, Frank has gotten worse on that end each yer. I'm honestly not sure that the Suns can have those 3 out together defensively.
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Re: Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA) 

Post#299 » by Eoghan » Tue Jul 2, 2019 12:43 am

Good. Nothing against Frank and I wish him well but either he sucks or he was a bad fit for us.

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