Breakdown of drafting failures since

[snaltonj]

This franchise has had numerous opportunities since the 2011 Draft to build a dominant Championship caliber team. However, as you will see in my detailed breakdown below, we failed to scout and take chances on the certain players in the draft who had far more upside than who we actually end up picking.

2011 Draft - 7th and 9th pick = Bismack Biyombo and Kemba Walker (good pick)

Other players available in that range - Klay Thompson, Kawhi Leonard, Reggie Jackson, Jimmy Butler.

2012 Draft - 2nd pick = MKG (I personally was never sold on MKG being a great NBA player with limited offensive skills)

Other available players - Bradley Beal, Damian Lillard, Harrison Barnes, Andre Drumond

2013 Draft - 4th Pick - Cody Zeller (At the time, I was hopeful that he would be a great NBA big, ALSO WEAK DRAFT CLASS)

Other available players - Kentavious Caldwell Pope, CJ McCollum, GIANNS ANTEOKOUNMPO,

2014 Draft - 9th Pick - Noah Vonleh (later traded for Nic Batum so ended up being a good asset)

Other players available - Dario Saric, Zach LaVine, TJ warren, Rodney Hood

2015 Draft - 9th Pick - Frank Kaminsky (meh)

Other players available - Devin Booker, Myles Turner,

2016 Draft - No pick

2017 Draft - Malik Monk (Has great potential, but we don't play him. What other team uses a lottery pick to then not give player any playing time. SMH

Possible Starting lineups if we had drafted better:

PG - Kemba Walker or Damian Lillard
SG - Klay Thompson or Devin Booker or CJ McCollum or Jimmy Butler
SF - Kawahi Leonard or Harrison Barnes or Tj Warren or Rodney Hood
PF - Dario Saric or GIANNS ANTEOKOUNMPO
C - Andre Drummond

*** FYI I know this is all hypothetical, but we really missed out on some studs in the draft. Most of the teams that are winning now have done so by making good moves in the draft. GS, Cleveland, Washington, Milwaukee, Minnesota,

[UNCNYC]

This franchise has had numerous opportunities since the 2011 Draft to build a dominant Championship caliber team. However, as you will see in my detailed breakdown below, we failed to scout and take chances on the certain players in the draft who had far more upside than who we actually end up picking.

2011 Draft - 7th and 9th pick = Bismack Biyombo and Kemba Walker (good pick)

Other players available in that range - Klay Thompson, Kawhi Leonard, Reggie Jackson, Jimmy Butler.

2012 Draft - 2nd pick = MKG (I personally was never sold on MKG being a great NBA player with limited offensive skills)

Other available players - Bradley Beal, Damian Lillard, Harrison Barnes, Andre Drumond

2013 Draft - 4th Pick - Cody Zeller (At the time, I was hopeful that he would be a great NBA big, ALSO WEAK DRAFT CLASS)

Other available players - Kentavious Caldwell Pope, CJ McCollum, GIANNS ANTEOKOUNMPO,

2014 Draft - 9th Pick - Noah Vonleh (later traded for Nic Batum so ended up being a good asset)

Other players available - Dario Saric, Zach LaVine, TJ warren, Rodney Hood

2015 Draft - 9th Pick - Frank Kaminsky (meh)

Other players available - Devin Booker, Myles Turner,

2016 Draft - No pick

2017 Draft - Malik Monk (Has great potential, but we don't play him. What other team uses a lottery pick to then not give player any playing time. SMH

Possible Starting lineups if we had drafted better:

PG - Kemba Walker or Damian Lillard
SG - Klay Thompson or Devin Booker or CJ McCollum or Jimmy Butler
SF - Kawahi Leonard or Harrison Barnes or Tj Warren or Rodney Hood
PF - Dario Saric or GIANNS ANTEOKOUNMPO
C - Andre Drummond

*** FYI I know this is all hypothetical, but we really missed out on some studs in the draft. Most of the teams that are winning now have done so by making good moves in the draft. GS, Cleveland, Washington, Milwaukee, Minnesota,

I like this post. I do think Cho could have drafted better but I actually think he did a decent job drafting. I also think he picked who most would have picked in his situtation. I like cho and thinks he has done a good job of attempting to better this franchise I am just tired of him if that makes sense.

I think we should keep cho and rid of our coach but at the same time I want cho out lol.

[UNCNYC]

I would have drafted slightly better than cho did tho. I wanted lillard or beal, lavine, and I also had my eye on Myles Turner.

[amcoolio]

Biyombo was the one who caused all this mess (which sucks because hes a great kid)

We likely would have taken Knight and Leonard had Biz not existed. We were high on Leonard but Cho wanted Biyombo as a project.

The following year we would have taken Beal or Drummond at 2, since we already had our SF.

[fatlever]

don't kid yourself...
2011 would have been knight and marcus morris (who we were rumored to like) or worse, trade both to move up for tristan (who we likedz0
2012 thomas robinson
2013 alex len

knight
hendo
morris
robinson
len

[JDR720]

I thought Robinson would be a 20/10 player.

This just shows we are bad at tanking, always just outside of the top prospects range. The worst realistic miss was taking frank over booker.

[catch20two]

I’ve always felt like we could’ve done a lot worse in the draft. The only pick that really bugged me was taking Cody over Noel. Still in hindsight I rather Noel over Cody personally but that’s just a personal take and not worth debating at this point. Cody has been okay by me now that we’ve moved him to center as a hustling junkyard big that just run the floor and set screens which is pretty much what I envisioned Noel doing for us sans the rim protection and upside.

[catch20two]

I thought Robinson would be a 20/10 player.

This just shows we are bad at tanking, always just outside of the top prospects range. The worst realistic miss was taking frank over booker.

Unfortunately we took Frank because he was what Cho projected Cody to be and misevaluated. Then Mcbob left us for Miami. At that time the stretch 4 position was becoming vital around the league to get away from the slow plodding PFs.

I was okay with the Frank pick, wasn’t happy or thrilled about it. Booker most certainly would’ve been the better choice. Frank still plays backup to a role playing veteran in Marv. I wonder if Clifford ever would’ve gave Booker the chance to supplant Hendo and if we’d still be stuck with Hendo for “defensive purposes” considering Booker’s reputation on that end.

[fatlever]

mj was the one rumored to be in love with frank, not cho.

[fatlever]

its always a hodgepodge of people making personnel decisions, never on the same page or with same goals.

[catch20two]

mj was the one rumored to be in love with frank, not cho.

I think that rumor is overblown. The media take a blind jab at MJ’s ownership skills every chance they get without having any facts. Did MJ like Frank? I’m pretty sure he did have to be all-in on the decision we made. Was MJ against accepting Boston’s offer? I’m pretty sure he was against it. I’d take Frank over Terry Rozier, RJ Hunter, Jordan Mickey, and Marcus Thornton too.

Drafting Frank probably was more Clifford than MJ if you think about it since a lot of our offense was ran through the PF position during the Mcbob year and we likely weren’t retaining him that offseason.

Until the day I hear Cho say that MJ gave him ultimatums to draft players or else I refuse to believe it. Every owner has input and every team has a group of people that share their opinion as a collaborative effort at the draft table. It’s up to the GM not to be a yes man without a backbone and take the player he firmly believe in will give the team the best chance to succeed.

If you let the media tell it Jordan enforced Cho to draft every player we’ve drafted over the past 7 seasons except Biz.

[HornetJail]

don't kid yourself...
2011 would have been knight and marcus morris (who we were rumored to like) or worse, trade both to move up for tristan (who we likedz0
2012 thomas robinson
2013 alex len

knight
hendo
morris
robinson
len

My personal picks at each draft were:
2011 - Biyombo and Kawhi (thought they'd be the next Ben Wallace and Gerald Wallace respectively, never anticipated Kawhi being this good)
2012 - Drummond (yeah another big man, would never have fit with Biz, but you draft talent and trade for fit) and Quincy Miller (I was really mad we never picked him up lol)
2013 - hated this draft and just wanted to trade down or out so we could draft Trey Burke and get something else (lol)
2014 - Vonleh (definitely thought he had more offense in him than he did) and Shabazz Napier (technically we did but we traded for Hairston)
2015 - Winslow (see Vonleh)
2016 - didn't really know the prospects at #24 but probably would've gone with Labissiere on name recongition even though we'd just drafted Frank
2017 - Monk (he was the clear choice and a dream scenario) and Sindarius Thornwell (because I'm a Gamecocks homer)

[Diop]

My personal picks at each draft were:
2011 - Biyombo and Kawhi (thought they'd be the next Ben Wallace and Gerald Wallace respectively, never anticipated Kawhi being this good)
2012 - Drummond (yeah another big man, would never have fit with Biz, but you draft talent and trade for fit) and Quincy Miller (I was really mad we never picked him up lol)
2013 - hated this draft and just wanted to trade down or out so we could draft Trey Burke and get something else (lol)
2014 - Vonleh (definitely thought he had more offense in him than he did) and Shabazz Napier (technically we did but we traded for Hairston)
2015 - Winslow (see Vonleh)
2016 - didn't really know the prospects at #24 but probably would've gone with Labissiere on name recongition even though we'd just drafted Frank
2017 - Monk (he was the clear choice and a dream scenario) and Sindarius Thornwell (because I'm a Gamecocks homer)

I remember going through this and realising I would probably would've lucked into Lillard which would have been interesting at the time.

2011 - I wanted Kawhi and Alec Burks
2012 - after losing the Davis lottery, I wanted to trade down. from memory I think it was Cleveland who were willing to trade 4 and 24 for 2 as they wanted Beal. Then as we would have been desperate for a replacement for She J I would've drafted Lillard and Perry Jones III as I liked him for some unknown reason.
2013 - I won't lie, I wanted Ben McLemore and as Burks was crap at this time I probably would have taken him.
2014 - definitely wanted Vonleh
2015 - this was the draft I was least invested in, probably would've stuck with Frank in all honesty seeing all the wings I've just drafted.
2017 - Donovan Mitchell as I would've been fed up by Burks/McLemore being meh by now

where does that leave me?
Lillard
Mitchell, Burks, McLemore
Kawhi, Pj III
Vonleh
Frank

round it out with Aussies and we're set!

Lillard, Patty Mills (was a pick 55, would've been easy to grab)
Mitchell, Matthew Dellavedova (undrafted)
Kawhi, Jo Ingles (seriously, no one wanted him for so long)
Frank, Vonleh
Baynes (undrafted), Bogut (vet minimum)

[BatumtheGlue]

I thought Robinson would be a 20/10 player.

This just shows we are bad at tanking, always just outside of the top prospects range. The worst realistic miss was taking frank over booker.

Who didn't? He was listed as a mobile 6'10'"rebounder. Unfortunately he's more look like 6'8"

[HornetJail]

I thought Robinson would be a 20/10 player.

This just shows we are bad at tanking, always just outside of the top prospects range. The worst realistic miss was taking frank over booker.

Who didn't? He was listed as a mobile 6'10'"rebounder. Unfortunately he's more look like 6'8"

me? There were quite a few people like myself who thought he'd just top out at what Tristan Thompson was for the Cavs before he started becoming a Kardashian.

[They_Them_Hatin]

2011- I wanted Kemba and Klay
2012- I really wanted Drummond. I think the Cavs wanted MKG the most which makes since why they didn’t trade if MKG was the man.
2013- Wanted Noel so bad
2014- liked the Vonleh picked
2015- Really wanted Devin Booker
2017- really wanted Monk

[HoopsMalone]

Not sure I couldve banged the Kawhi and Draymond drums any harder. Wagesofwins came up with a heck of a formula to determine who to draft based on college stats. Identified both of those as studs. Kawhi's rebound rate was off the charts in college.

The formula has misses just like any other one but man they sure had a sick run there for awhile

[Joest2003]

Cho has been god awful at drafting. It's been documented that Jordan was the one who selected Walker(our only good draft pick in 10 years) so Cho doesn't get any of the credit for that. Letting McRoberts walk was devastating for this team. He was the glue at that time and him and Kembas chemistry was at an all time high. Kemba even went to twitter and wrote "damn" after we let McRoberts walk. The only good move Cho has ever made was to aquire Lamb for a bag of chips.

[Lwcasu]

Cho has been god awful at drafting. It's been documented that Jordan was the one who selected Walker(our only good draft pick in 10 years) so Cho doesn't get any of the credit for that. Letting McRoberts walk was devastating for this team. He was the glue at that time and him and Kembas chemistry was at an all time high. Kemba even went to twitter and wrote "damn" after we let McRoberts walk. The only good move Cho has ever made was to aquire Lamb for a bag of chips.

Honestly, getting Howard for Miles Plumlee wasn't bad at all. And, I can't really fault the Cody pick.

[Joest2003]

Cho has been god awful at drafting. It's been documented that Jordan was the one who selected Walker(our only good draft pick in 10 years) so Cho doesn't get any of the credit for that. Letting McRoberts walk was devastating for this team. He was the glue at that time and him and Kembas chemistry was at an all time high. Kemba even went to twitter and wrote "damn" after we let McRoberts walk. The only good move Cho has ever made was to aquire Lamb for a bag of chips.

Honestly, getting Howard for Miles Plumlee wasn't bad at all. And, I can't really fault the Cody pick.

I'll give you that. I will admit I was happy with Cho before the season started for adding Dwight and Monk but that doesn't outweigh all his horrible decisions. That batum deal is a job killer for any GM. Just don't see how he can survive that especially after the Walker trade reports. Basically admitting we are f***** and need to blow it up.