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Redrafting the 2017 NBA draft 

Post#1 » by JMAC3 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:53 pm

How do you guys seeing the draft going after just 1 year? Does Tatum go first? Where does Fultz land? Interested to see everyone’s top 14 picks.


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Re: Redrafting the 2017 NBA draft 

Post#2 » by HornetJail » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:02 pm

Mitchell followed by Tatum are my definite top 2. It is really tough to judge most of the others right now, because most haven't gotten a lot of opportunity, or had typical rookie struggles, but I'm tempted to Markannen at #3 and after seeing the weird Fultz jumper saga and virtually nothing else from him, I'm not sure I'd take him if he slipped to #11.
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Re: Redrafting the 2017 NBA draft 

Post#3 » by Braggins » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:25 pm

1. 76ers - Jayson Tatum
2. Lakers - Donovan Mitchell
3. Celtics - Lauri Markkanen
4. Suns - Lonzo Ball
5. Kings - Josh Jackson
6. Magic - DeAaron Fox
7. Bulls - Jonathan Isaac
8. Knicks - Kyle Kuzma
9. Mavericks - DSJ
10. Blazers - OG Anunoby
11. Hornets - Malik Monk
12. Pistons - Frank Ntilikina
13. Jazz - Bam Adebayo
14. Heat - Jarrett Allen
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Re: Redrafting the 2017 NBA draft 

Post#4 » by JMAC3 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:30 pm

1. Philly- Tatum
2. Lakers- mitchell
3. Boston- Markannen
4. Phoenix- Lonzo
5. Kings- Dennis smith jr
6. Magic- Kyle Kuzma
7. Bulls- Josh Jackson
8. Knicks- Fultz
9. Dallas- Fox
10. Portland- Jonathon Isaac
11. Hornets- Malik Monk
12. Pistons- OG Anunoby
13. Utah- Frank Ntilikina
14. Heat- Bam Adebayo


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Post#5 » by UNCNYC » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:26 pm

1. Philly- Tatum
2. Lakers- mitchell
3. Boston- Markannen
4. Phoenix- Lonzo
5. Kings- Dennis smith jr
6. Magic- Kyle Kuzma
7. Bulls- Josh Jackson
8. Knicks- Fox
9. Dallas- Fultz
10. Portland- Jonathon Isaac
11. Hornets- Malik Monk
12. Pistons- OG Anunoby
13. Utah- Frank Ntilikina
14. Heat- Bam Adebayo

I kept Monk as a Hornet because hes a Hornet lol. but he woulda stayed around 11 anyway.
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Re: Redrafting the 2017 NBA draft 

Post#6 » by Hornet Mania » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:59 pm

OG and Ntilikina both have an argument to be ahead of Monk, but these lists are mostly spot-on imo. I think the top 5 would be something like:

Tatum
Mitchell
Ball
Markanen
Kuzma

Tatum and Mitchell definitely top 2, but everyone else would depend on team preference.
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Post#7 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:27 pm

1. donovan
2. tatum
3. lauri
4. lonzo
5. jackson
6. dsj
7. kuz
8. fox
9. bam
10. isaac
11. frank
12. fultz
13. og
14. jcollins
15. allen
16. zcollins
17. monk
18. bell
19. brooks
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Post#8 » by 316Hornets » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:42 am

If Monk is still being picked top 15, this must be the worst rookie class of all time because he had a deplorable year.
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Re: Redrafting the 2017 NBA draft 

Post#9 » by Braggins » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:01 am

316Hornets wrote:If Monk is still being picked top 15, this must be the worst rookie class of all time because he had a deplorable year.

So did Lonzo, Josh Jackson, DSJr, Fox, Fultz, Ntilikina, Isaac, Zach Collins, Kennard, etc.

I gave an advantage to guys who were already reasonably productive, or straight up good in a few cases, but projection and potential were still a big factor.
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Post#10 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:20 am

Monk is going to be a good player, have a lot of faith a new coaching staff is just what he needed.


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Post#11 » by HornetJail » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:49 am

JMAC3 wrote:Monk is going to be a good player, have a lot of faith a new coaching staff is just what he needed.


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he's not the only player I feel that way about.
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Post#12 » by Lwcasu » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:14 am

1. 76ers - Donovan Mitchell
2. Lakers - Jayson Tatum
3. Celtics - Lonzo Ball
4. Suns - DeAron Fox
5. Kings - Lauri Markkanen
6. Magic - Markell Fultz
7. Bulls - Josh Jackson
8. Knicks - DSJ
9. Mavericks - Kyle Kuzma
10. Blazers - Malik Monk
11. Hornets - Frank Ntilikina
12. Pistons - OG Anunoby
13. Jazz - John Collins
14. Heat - Bam Adebayo
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Post#13 » by Lwcasu » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:16 am

316Hornets wrote:If Monk is still being picked top 15, this must be the worst rookie class of all time because he had a deplorable year.


Guess you didn't watch the last 7 games. It's kind of hard to put up numbers or gain rhythm when you're playing the last two minutes of games. SMH
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Post#14 » by 316Hornets » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:12 am

Lwcasu wrote:
316Hornets wrote:If Monk is still being picked top 15, this must be the worst rookie class of all time because he had a deplorable year.


Guess you didn't watch the last 7 games. It's kind of hard to put up numbers or gain rhythm when you're playing the last two minutes of games. SMH


Monk had a few opportunities but didn't take advantage. The last handful.of games were meaningless bit he at least looked somewhat aware. I still don't think he's top 15.
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Re: Redrafting the 2017 NBA draft 

Post#15 » by SWedd523 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:00 am

316Hornets wrote:
Lwcasu wrote:
316Hornets wrote:If Monk is still being picked top 15, this must be the worst rookie class of all time because he had a deplorable year.


Guess you didn't watch the last 7 games. It's kind of hard to put up numbers or gain rhythm when you're playing the last two minutes of games. SMH


Monk had a few opportunities but didn't take advantage. The last handful.of games were meaningless bit he at least looked somewhat aware. I still don't think he's top 15.


Then would you like to post your version of a redraft or do you just prefer to criticize the ones other people make?
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Re: Redrafting the 2017 NBA draft 

Post#16 » by Ball4life32 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:53 am

Braggins wrote:
316Hornets wrote:If Monk is still being picked top 15, this must be the worst rookie class of all time because he had a deplorable year.

So did Lonzo, Josh Jackson, DSJr, Fox, Fultz, Ntilikina, Isaac, Zach Collins, Kennard, etc.

I gave an advantage to guys who were already reasonably productive, or straight up good in a few cases, but projection and potential were still a big factor.

No John Collins then? Productive rookie(made 2nd team all rookie team) and still has high upside. Dont see any way he wouldn’t be at worst a lottery pick in a redraft. He was better than Isaac, Bam and Jarrett Allen for sure.
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Re: Redrafting the 2017 NBA draft 

Post#17 » by 316Hornets » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:57 am

SWedd523 wrote:
316Hornets wrote:
Lwcasu wrote:
Guess you didn't watch the last 7 games. It's kind of hard to put up numbers or gain rhythm when you're playing the last two minutes of games. SMH


Monk had a few opportunities but didn't take advantage. The last handful.of games were meaningless bit he at least looked somewhat aware. I still don't think he's top 15.


Then would you like to post your version of a redraft or do you just prefer to criticize the ones other people make?


I really don't watch any other team so can't accurately rank. I just know Monk wouldn't be top 15 unless everybody was as bad on defense and offense. I mean Monk was like dead last in SG rpm for 2 months and that accounts for playing time.
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Post#18 » by LofJ » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:12 pm

It's way too early to make this judgment. Brandon Ingram looked like he wouldn't play out his rookie contract his first season and he dramatically improved last season. It takes some guys longer to find their comfort zone and start playing well.
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Post#19 » by SWedd523 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:01 pm

If
316Hornets wrote:I really don't watch any other team so can't accurately rank.


Then
I just know Monk wouldn't be top 15 unless everybody was as bad on defense and offense.


Does not logical sense make.
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Post#20 » by 316Hornets » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:13 pm

SWedd523 wrote:If
316Hornets wrote:I really don't watch any other team so can't accurately rank.


Then
I just know Monk wouldn't be top 15 unless everybody was as bad on defense and offense.


Does not logical sense make.


I've watched enough basketball to know when a rookie underperforms even low expectations and Monk did that. Whether that's on the coach or him remains to be seen.
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