Excluding Kemba, who is the most valuable based on stats/contract
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Excluding Kemba, who is the most valuable based on stats/contract
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Excluding Kemba, who is the most valuable based on stats/contract
If you ranked top players based on value of player and contract, who is our second most valuable behind Kemba?
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the number 11 pick
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Monk
11th pick
Dwight's contract
11th pick
Dwight's contract
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Valuable for current production & contract
1. Kemba
2. Lamb
5. Zeller (if he clears medical issues)
Valuable for potential future production
3. Monk
4. Kaminsky
6. Bacon
7. Hernangomez
Valuable as an expiring contract
8. Dwight
9. Stone
Negative value
10. Marvin
11. MKG
12. Batum (gives production, but not relative to contract)
1. Kemba
2. Lamb
5. Zeller (if he clears medical issues)
Valuable for potential future production
3. Monk
4. Kaminsky
6. Bacon
7. Hernangomez
Valuable as an expiring contract
8. Dwight
9. Stone
Negative value
10. Marvin
11. MKG
12. Batum (gives production, but not relative to contract)
My picks:
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
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I'd have to say Zeller. He's an undersized center who sometimes looks like the runt in the post, but the guy ticks off all.the intangibles. As long as he keeps his motor up, he'll be in the league for a long time. That said, his value isn't a lot due to injury concerns/lack of height/wingspan. I value him more than any team would probably give.
He's also a great combat against the small ball 5 game like the Celts use.
He's also a great combat against the small ball 5 game like the Celts use.
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Monk, by far. His performances when he's been given actual game time and the green light to be himself have been very encouraging. 20 years old till the middle of next season, three more years on a very cheap contract, and then 3-5 years of contractual control on his next deal (if he pans out)... I think he should be the lone untouchable player on this team if we decide to rebuild and the only "we'd only trade him for a second star" piece we have. I didn't dream that Monk would fall to #11 last year, and I doubt a prospect of his caliber will get to #11 this year either.
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A healthy Zeller
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Monk or the 11th pick, most likely.
If some team is in love with Monk's talent he might get a decent haul. I think Lamb actually should be valued at or above Monk, but for whatever reason he's an afterthought around the league.
If some team is in love with Monk's talent he might get a decent haul. I think Lamb actually should be valued at or above Monk, but for whatever reason he's an afterthought around the league.
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Kemba
Monk
Pick 11
Lamb
Kaminsky
Hernangomez
Zeller
Dwight's expiring
Bacon
2nd round pick
MKG
Marvin
Batum
Monk
Pick 11
Lamb
Kaminsky
Hernangomez
Zeller
Dwight's expiring
Bacon
2nd round pick
MKG
Marvin
Batum
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This thread shows how sad this team is.
They will wage war against the Lamb but the Lamb will triumph them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings - and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." Revelation 17:14 (NIV)
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catch20two wrote:This thread shows how sad this team is.
Well if Monk and pick 11 turn into all-stars, that would make 3 all-stars with Kemba. I love Monk and I'm very high on Miles and Sexton.
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A lot of our guys actually have positive or neutral value. The only player with negative value is batum, and that is only because his contract is so massive and he was hurt to start the year.
After the allstart break Batum shot .36% from deep and averaged around 11 pts 6 reb and 7 ast.
Marvin Williams shot a career best 41% from deep last year. A lot of teams could use Marvin Williams. If we move him to center he will be a beast with his versatility.
Frank shot a career best 38% from deep last year and has a cheep contract.
Lamb shot a career best 37% from deep last year and is underpaid.
Cody doesn't have any value really until he comes back healthy, and MKG needs to show a little more to be worth his contract but those guys are close.
After the allstart break Batum shot .36% from deep and averaged around 11 pts 6 reb and 7 ast.
Marvin Williams shot a career best 41% from deep last year. A lot of teams could use Marvin Williams. If we move him to center he will be a beast with his versatility.
Frank shot a career best 38% from deep last year and has a cheep contract.
Lamb shot a career best 37% from deep last year and is underpaid.
Cody doesn't have any value really until he comes back healthy, and MKG needs to show a little more to be worth his contract but those guys are close.
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GoBobs wrote:A lot of our guys actually have positive or neutral value. The only player with negative value is batum, and that is only because his contract is so massive and he was hurt to start the year.
After the allstart break Batum shot .36% from deep and averaged around 11 pts 6 reb and 7 ast.
Marvin Williams shot a career best 41% from deep last year. A lot of teams could use Marvin Williams. If we move him to center he will be a beast with his versatility.
Frank shot a career best 38% from deep last year and has a cheep contract.
Lamb shot a career best 37% from deep last year and is underpaid.
Cody doesn't have any value really until he comes back healthy, and MKG needs to show a little more to be worth his contract but those guys are close.
Great points. Perception isn't always reality. I'm very excited to see what a culture change can do to this group.
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stinger14 wrote:Monk
11th pick
Dwight's contract
Not disagreeing with it being 3rd but doesn't Dwight's contract become more valuable closer to the deadline? Right now, anyone looking to unload salary is wanting to unload it for this FA period.
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Dwight has the best contract because there are 2 contracts that you want on your team. One that kemba has which is that of a productive player for moderate costs, and one that dwight has which is of either a productive expiring contract of a semi productive (which he is) expiring contract or just an expiring. Monk has potential but he has been given so few minutes and has also chucked a bit much for my liking. We have flexibility with Howards contract. Howards contract is how we can land an alstar calibar player. Some teams will unload a player just for an expiring and the fact that, that expiring player can contribute makes it even more enticing.
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These are who I want with our picks in order
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Dwight's contract would hold more value if we could use it to take on bad long term contracts attached to assets like high draft picks. But we need all that space for Kemba.
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