Would a rebuild even be that bad for us?

geraldwallace · Post #1 » by **geraldwallace** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:45 am

If we trade Kemba for an additional pick we will have a core to build around and a major head start on our rebuild

Let’s say we get SGA and Knox or one of the Bridges

We can have a line up of

SGA
Monk
Batum
Knox/One of the Bridge bois
Cody

Plus Willy, Frank and Bacon off the bench with an additional 1rst rounder coming in

I feel like that’s a core we could build around, Batum and SGA passing to the two scorers in Monk/Bridges and Knox with Cody to glue it.

So I don’t think it’d be doom and gloom for long. Honestly we'd probably be back to a 30-38 win team after 1 season and this team would have a much brighter future instead.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #2 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:52 am

Yes. It would be bad, especially the year the all star game is here.

I like many of the names you throw out there, but no guarantees that any guy drafted will work out or want to stay the way Kemba does.

Post #3 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:54 am

I don't see that team having a much brighter future than basically the same team except with Kemba and with one less rookie wing.

stinger14 · Post #4 » by **stinger14** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:57 am

I have said it a few times that I think we can do it in 2 years, and be as good as we are now with a much brighter future.

_tijo_ · Post #5 » by **_tijo_** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:58 am

Think of how bad our offense is NOW without Kemba on the floor. Now imagine that offense all the time.

Liver_Pooty · Post #6 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:04 am

Our offense will be fine now that Howards gone.

stinger14 · Post #7 » by **stinger14** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:09 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Our offense will be fine now that Howards gone.

And we have Monk and the guys we pick to develop and have more than one true option

Lwcasu · Post #8 » by **Lwcasu** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:15 am

It would be beyond bad

Rich4114 · Post #9 » by **Rich4114** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:15 am

I haven’t really seen anything about a Kemba trade that helps us rebuild. Seems like we would be looking at a mid lottery pick which we know more than anyone is like what, 20% chance they’re an impact player? I like our chances more of tweaking this roster and developing what we’ve got to see if we can get back to 15-16’ performance.

Rich4114 · Post #10 » by **Rich4114** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:17 am

You can make the argument that we will tank and get a higher pick, but it’s even less guaranteed to work starting with the next lottery process since they’ve changed the odds. Sure, we could rebuild in 2 years but we could also rebuild in 10 years by continuing to draft poorly or have bad luck like we always have had.

driveandkick · Post #11 » by **driveandkick** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:17 am

I like how so many people act like trading Kemba would be so bad from a revenue/support perspective. Like, yeah man, fans are FLOCKING into the arena to see us continue to manufacture 35 win teams.

HornetJail · Post #12 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:20 am

driveandkick wrote:I like how so many people act like trading Kemba would be so bad from a revenue/support perspective. Like, yeah man, fans are FLOCKING into the arena to see us continue to manufacture 35 win teams.

do you remember the Bobcat years? Namely the 7-59 year and the 21-61 year after that?

geraldwallace · Post #13 » by **geraldwallace** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:20 am

I just feel like it'll be the same treadmill, we'll barely miss the playoffs next year and resign Kemba. Then you guys will claim it was something else that caused it, this year it was Dwight. Kemba is a great player but in two years the guy will be 30 that's not much of a window to win with. I feel like Kemba's game won't age well either

Lwcasu · Post #14 » by **Lwcasu** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:24 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
driveandkick wrote:I like how so many people act like trading Kemba would be so bad from a revenue/support perspective. Like, yeah man, fans are FLOCKING into the arena to see us continue to manufacture 35 win teams.

do you remember the Bobcat years? Namely the 7-59 year and the 21-61 year after that?

Yeah and there's so much talent right now in the NBA, I feel we could actually be worse than that period if we were to trade Kemba. But not to worry, I highly doubt we trade Kemba

Post #15 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:19 am

geraldwallace wrote:Then you guys will claim it was something else that caused it, this year it was Dwight.

No, this year it was Cliff. We were a much better team this season with Dwight and without Cody than our record indicated.

JMAC3 · Post #16 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:29 pm

If we have any vision we will trade Kemba.

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driveandkick · Post #17 » by **driveandkick** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:18 pm

Lwcasu wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
driveandkick wrote:I like how so many people act like trading Kemba would be so bad from a revenue/support perspective. Like, yeah man, fans are FLOCKING into the arena to see us continue to manufacture 35 win teams.

do you remember the Bobcat years? Namely the 7-59 year and the 21-61 year after that?

Yeah and there's so much talent right now in the NBA, I feel we could actually be worse than that period if we were to trade Kemba. But not to worry, I highly doubt we trade Kemba

Oh I remember those years. And here's an unpopular opinion: I preferred those years to the 36-46 seasons. No, I don't want to go 7-59 again. But at least then there was a plan in place. There was an actual possibility that we could land a megastar. Which, btw - had we been lucky and won the #1 pick to get AD would ANYONE look back and criticize the 7-59 season? I sure as hell wouldn't. Instead we'd be praising it. We were one ping pong ball away from landing a top 5 NBA player. During 7-59 and 21-61, you had something to look forward to in the draft. You had that hope that we were going to land a franchise player to carry us to prosperity. Right now there's none of that. We still have a -0% chance of winning anything meaningful, just like we would if we had another 7-59 type season.

Which, btw, if we rebuilt now we wouldn't be as bad as 7-59 again. We'd look much more like last season's Bulls or Mavs.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #18 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:59 pm

So those bad season rebuilds were kind of fun. We had hope. The games could be fun too especially since we were just looking for individual guys to look good or play hard even if they didn't win. But honestly I skipped a lot of those games. Like a ton of them.

Now I skipped games last year too ... watching the team not pass and play poorly was brutal. And that sense of hope wasn't there at all for way too many games. We didn't get to watch young guys like Monk or Bacon shine very often. I can see thinking that a rebuild might make the fun come back a bit, but it wouldn't help attendance.

What would help is fielding a team that actually wins and is fun to watch (i.e. they pass the freaking ball and look like they enjoy playing together).

Chapelchilla · Post #19 » by **Chapelchilla** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:18 pm

Or we could actually hit on a star with whatever pick we do have for a change. If we had just taken Mitchell last year we wouldn’t be in this situation now.
If we hit tonight things can change fast.
And Monk may even be better then he showed on that disfunctional squad.
So hopefully 2 good young players with a all star captain and improvement from Batum, Kaminsky, Lamb, Willy and Cody= Playoffs

Post #20 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:18 pm

I just cannot comprehend enjoying that 7 win team more than our Clifford coached seasons. The only way I can understand someone saying that IMO is you prefer not caring at all and hoping rather than caring and hoping.

For me, I think it takes less hope to get from mediocre / good to great than to go from bad and trying to get rid of all proveable assets to great in a small market.