JMAC3 wrote:I know I am beating a dead horse here but go team by team and look at what guys who play 25-30 minutes a night for nba teams put up for stats/averages.
Royce O’Neal plays 29 mins and avg 6.3 ppg
Joe ingles plays 33 mins avg 9.8 ppg
OG plays 30 mins avg 10.6 ppg
Josh Okogie 25 mins avg 8.6 ppg
Marcus Morris 29 mins avg 10.1 ppg
Mikal Bridges 28 mins avg 9.1 ppg
Daniel house 30 mins avg 10.5 ppg
Tony Snell 28 mins 8 ppg
Cedi Osman 30 mins 11 ppg
Jon Issac 29 mins 11.9 ppg
Dorian Finney Smith 30 mins 9.5 pp
Josh Hart 27 mins 10.1 ppg
Miles Bridges 30 mins 13 ppg
I know ppg isn’t the best stat, but I’m just showing what type of nba players get 30 mins a game in the league on the wing. You really think Bridges is failing putting up these stats?
Oh and he is 22 years old compared to a lot of these guys in their NBA prime
you looked at none of those links huh :/
those sites i posted went into detail regarding how basic box score averages don't tell a full story. there are guys with much less time on the court and worse numbers than bridges, that have a much greater positive effect on their team.
I understand analytics and I know you can find guys who pop based on per 36 numbers or when they get a larger role. However I think sometimes people get a little too enamored with things like this and forget to look at actual production.
"If he is a good hitter, then why doesn't he hit good"
- Brad Pitt (Billy Beane) in moneyball
You have to use a mix of eye test, actual production and advanced stats to get a full story.
I happen to believe that Miles still has a lot of room to grow and can still become a dynamic offensive player (three point spot up, post up smaller wings, great cutter, transition monster and maybe even develop a two man game in the pick and roll). OG Anounoby for instance is pretty much what he is a 3D guy stands in the corner on offense and plays good defense. That is super valuable in the league, but do I think Toronto is going to hand him a bigger role this year and all of sudden all his advanced metrics say he has allstar potential as a guy who can score at all three levels and get others involved?? NO. That is where watching the game and understanding a players potential strengths come into effect.
I look at advanced metrics for football as well and its great if a WR has a good ADOT or gets 2.4 yards of separation per route run. Love to see it, but it doesn't mean he is a 1000 yard receiver. I would much rather have the guy who has 3 1000 yard seasons under his belt, but grades out poorly in those metrics.
If a team gave up on every 22 year old prospect who grades out poorly in advanced stats they would never get anywhere. You have to coach them and develop them and put players around them that will help communicate with them on defense and put them in real game situations where they can learn and grow by watching film. I happen to believe that Miles is a hard worker, overall smart guy, and think we have a good coaching staff to get him there. I think trading him now has way more downside than upside.