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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#41 » by catch20two » Sun Dec 2, 2018 9:06 pm

I’m all for improving the ‘frontcourt’.
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#42 » by bravor » Sat Dec 8, 2018 3:56 pm

For the record, a few stats involving Parker since the eyes test does not work for everyone
Misc stats in the 4 when he is on the court (which basically means he is running the point and Kemba is used at sg)

His 'real'+/- stats from espn

As for yesterday's 4th quarter (hornets were +8, 79/87) :
He starts the 4th and that's 0/2 for him, no assists (or anything) for 3'. The team only scored 2 pts from Batum at the ft line. On the other side we have Murray going 2/4 (one dunk included).
When Kemba replaces him, score is back to 84/89.

He replaces Monk with 3'25 left (hornets +10, 92/102) :
Score is 103/106 with 1'15 left when Borrego asks his last time out. OK then, he scores a jumper and get to the line (1/2), but the final score is 107/113 knowing at the end it was Kemba who got the ball to finish the game on the line.

Murray's stats in the 4th (he started the 4th with 7 pts) : 5/10 + 3/4ft's, 3 assists (+ 1 st, of rb..). His stats between the 9' mark and 3' mark were 1/3 +2/2 ft's and 1 assists (during the time both Kemba & Monk were at the guard positions).

Just wanted to remind doubters that both my brain and my eyes are working nicely :wink:

Not saying he's foul gold, he had some nice game (and i guess i even gave him a deserved gold vote for some game i forgot) but he was horrible yesterday both in play making (not a single assist in the 4th, the only good look was the pnr Cody could not convert at the rim at some time) and defensively.
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#43 » by yosemiteben » Sun Dec 9, 2018 2:08 am

What does Murray's performance have to do with TP? Kemba was guarding him, TP was guarding Morris.

TP was huge against Denver, nothing in your post really proved otherwise. He most definitely was not horrible yesterday.
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#44 » by Diop » Sun Dec 9, 2018 4:25 am

i do like that Bravor is sort of the anti Lin-fan, in that he hates his fellow countryman.

parker's clutch scoring might come at a cost but we needed it down the stretch
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#45 » by bravor » Sun Dec 9, 2018 10:45 am

Dudes, this is sport, i don't hate anybody. i am well placed to know the consequences of having a team run by TP, in the sense that others tend to watch him play and disappear and you end up crossing fingers that he is gonna convert his shots or you are screwed.

I want to see this team win games regulary without unecessary stress. If Parker is the solution for Kemba in the 4th, then this team is in deeper troubles than you can imagine.

Anyway i will shut it, the message is well received.
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#46 » by yosemiteben » Sun Dec 9, 2018 4:05 pm

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Yet here we are with the 19th best win %...
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Post#47 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:49 pm

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Post#48 » by Braggins » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:06 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
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Yet here we are with the 19th best win %...

It never stops being annoying. Orlando is one game behind us in the playoff standing with a point differential thats almost 6 points worse. We're 4 points better than the Pistons and one game behind them in the standings. We also smoked both of those teams the last time we played them.
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#49 » by Braggins » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:39 pm

Kemba is 15th in the league in defensive PPP

1. M.Conley .702
2. D.Sabonis .722
3. M.Turner .75
4. M.Gasol .767
5. T.Chandler .77
6. M.Smart .771
7. J.Clarkson .775
8. J.Winslow .776
9. Jr. Holiday .778
10. A.Rivers .778
11.K.Leonard .784
12. S.Adams .786
13. B.Adebayo .788
14. G.Antetokounmpo .799
15. K.Walker .801
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Post#50 » by Hornet Mania » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:56 pm

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Post#51 » by 316Hornets » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:19 pm

Marv has been very low volume for the past few years. His numbers are solid for a backup.
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#52 » by euphorbus » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:57 am

The best two-man combo on this year's team, by a mile, is Marvin Williams and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, at +38.5 points per 48 minutes. The next best combo is Williams and Bridges at +18.

How is that possible? I guess it's because Marvin and Michael have only played a total of 63 minutes together, so far. I'll check back in February and see if the landscape has changed, assuming both guys are still on the team. After tonight's epic collapse, nothing is certain.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/lineup_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&lineup_type=2-man&output=per_min&is_playoffs=N&year_id=2019&team_id=CHA&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&c1stat=mp&c1comp=ge&c1val=50&order_by=diff_pts
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#53 » by bravor » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:04 pm

Last 6 games 4th quarter performances from all players.

Last 15 gamesperformances in the 4th

You do not play Parker and Batum in the 4th (and in the clutch) unless Batum is on (since he at least delivers a bit in defense and for the rebound, & stuff).
Not saying they can't have good games, but in average they cost you good leads and eventually good wins. the main problem being shairng the ball. I can't find stats to show this but i am pretty sure the assists go south in the 4th.

The whole bench has negative rating in the 4th for last 15 games, MKG, Bacon and to a lower extend Bridges being close to neutral impact in the 4th.
Usual suspects being guards as everyone guessed. It might be time to ask Borrego how long does he wish to paly small with Kemba & Parker together.
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#54 » by yosemiteben » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:40 pm

In that 6 game sample, TP is right there with Cody and Lamb and Kemba isn't that much higher. In the 15 game, like the entire team is within 1 +/-.

To me that data doesn't support that there is a huge gap between starters and bench or TP and Lamb.

That data is also a bit flawed if we're talking about closing because it only represents all of Q4.
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Post#55 » by 316Hornets » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:24 pm

Charlotte Hornets, Last 3 minutes of a close game and Kemba takes almost 3x shots as much as the next guy.

https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=FGA&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612766&ClutchTime=Last%203%20Minutes


For comparison purposes, LA is rolling with arguably the #1 player in the world and the numbers are much closer.

https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=FGA&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612747&ClutchTime=Last%203%20Minutes
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#56 » by Diop » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:52 pm

Lebron is a much better creator/passer than Kemba
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Post#57 » by 316Hornets » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:02 am

Diop wrote:Lebron is a much better creator/passer than Kemba

So, who exactly should be Kemba's sidekick? How do you utilize a PG that can't create in the clutch?
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#58 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:49 am

I think that part of the reason LeBron is a better creator is size and strength. He's a threat to do things that Kemba simply can do offensively, which also opens up creation opportunities.
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#59 » by Benjamin Linus » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:25 pm

Where we've ranked in defensive rebound rate over the last few years...

2013-14: 1st
2014-15: 1st
2015-16: 1st
2016-17: 2nd
2017-18: 1st
2018-19: 18th

I know that was something Clifford focused in on and that Borrego likes to run a lot of smaller lineups, but damn what a consistent run and then dropoff. Despite the coaching differences, we could probably use an upgrade at the 5 spot. Some of our other rankings over the years...

Team rank in opponent’s second chance points
2013-14: 7th
2014-15: 9th
2015-16: 5th
2016-17: 3rd
2017-18: 1st
2018-19: 22nd


Team rank in opponent’s points in the paint
2013-14: 4th
2014-15: 3rd
2015-16: 3rd
2016-17: 5th
2017-18: 17th
2018-19: 18th
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Re: 2018-19 Stats 

Post#60 » by HornetJail » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:22 am

that's what happens if you try to score in transition
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