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and let him clean this whole mess out and go on rebuilding plan?

I would some fans may not like it cause it be alot of losing for several years but it no worse than what we are doing now going for the playoffs and only end up as like 10th seed.

So Imo we need to hire Hinkle or someone like him who knows how to tank and draft and let him run the show and get us some nice young talent we can build around cause right now our futue looks bleak the way we are going,

We already hired Mitch to clean up Cho’s mess, we have to give him more time

We tried tanking once before and couldn't stomach it after one season.

Hinkle is not a great drafter. Embiid and Simmons were picks most other teams would have made. He also took Oakafor over Porzingis. The best move he made was cutting bait with MCW after one year.

The 76ers are 4th in the standings in the east. The Raptors, Bucks and Pacers are ahead of them and never tanked. Maybe the narrative changes if the 76ers win the tittle. They could just as easily lose some guys to free agency after falling short.

Look at all the #1's the Cavs had. If Lebron had not come back would they have been able to win around Irving, Wiggins, Bennet. Tanking is not a short cut that guarantees winning.

GoBobs wrote:We tried tanking once before and couldn't stomach it after one season.

Hinkle is not a great drafter. Embiid and Simmons were picks most other teams would have made. He also took Oakafor over Porzingis. The best move he made was cutting bait with MCW after one year.

The 76ers are 4th in the standings in the east. The Raptors, Bucks and Pacers are ahead of them and never tanked. Maybe the narrative changes if the 76ers win the tittle. They could just as easily lose some guys to free agency after falling short.

Look at all the #1's the Cavs had. If Lebron had not come back would they have been able to win around Irving, Wiggins, Bennet. Tanking is not a short cut that guarantees winning.

Obviously it all depends on Kemba at this point. If he stays and resigns, then you have to let capspace clear out over the next two years and rebuild the roster with better players. If Kemba leaves, then obviously it is time to face a few bad seasons ahead. Either way, I feel Mitch can do as well as Hinkie.

However, I am not sure there is a GM in the entire league that would have taken Porzingis over Okafor, and in fact Phil Jackson got blasted for taking Porzingis as high in the draft as he did. So, I cannot blame that pick on Hinkie, and he was smart enough to double up and draft Embid after a full year of evaluating Okafor

He was a fantastic trader who valued assets, but he drafted terribly. The Process could've been a disaster if Embiid never gets healthy, even with all those picks. 4 of Hinkie's first 5 lottery picks were Noel (#6), MCW (#11), Embiid (#3), Saric (#12), Okafor (#3). That's 2 mega-scrubs, 2 role players, and an all-star. Credit him for turning MCW into future picks that the next management eventually used to get Tobias Harris this year, but that is still awful drafting, especially since 3 of those 5 couldn't even play together.

Just give me someone who realizes rebuilding is a game of asset management, and knows what to do with those assets, and we're golden. If that's Hinkie, then great, but I don't want him making draft choices.

It really depends on whether Kemba sticks around. Mitch seems like a guy that has his hands in a lot of places and can make trades happen if they are beneficial. If Kemba is staying, I'd want to stick with Mitch to see if he can improve this team with the limited amount of assets we have.

If Kemba leaves, I'd wait until the draft lottery to make any decision. If we luck into a top 3 pick, Barrett and Zion both seem like game changers that we could build around. Again, I'd stick with Mitch and have him build around those guys.

If Kemba leaves, we don't get a top 4 pick, and we don't get Washington's 2nd round pick, we are in no man's land and far away from competing. At this point, we should go into a full rebuild and I'd look for another GM.

I'm not a Hinkie hater, but I don't feel like we should be in the market for a new GM any time soon. Mitch should be here for at least two more years.

I am two feet in the Hinkie camp but it won't happen and Kupchak should be given a fair crack at fixing it. I think Hinkie did great (his drafting wasn't really super outside the box, he just took the consensus BPA regardless of injury or fit and sold high on the busts/bad fits) but MJ is too impatient and too headstrong to let this guy do his job and the NBA will intervene again for $$$ reasons.

BizGilwalker wrote:He was a fantastic trader who valued assets, but he drafted terribly. The Process could've been a disaster if Embiid never gets healthy, even with all those picks. 4 of Hinkie's first 5 lottery picks were Noel (#6), MCW (#11), Embiid (#3), Saric (#12), Okafor (#3). That's 2 mega-scrubs, 2 role players, and an all-star. Credit him for turning MCW into future picks that the next management eventually used to get Tobias Harris this year, but that is still awful drafting, especially since 3 of those 5 couldn't even play together.

Just give me someone who realizes rebuilding is a game of asset management, and knows what to do with those assets, and we're golden. If that's Hinkie, then great, but I don't want him making draft choices.

I would argue that's a pretty good hit rate. The Noel\MCW draft was terrible, and he flipped MCW for assets pretty quickly so he actually did better than most teams. I never got the criticism of Okafor & Embiid considering Embiid's health at the time and the lack of guards in the draft.

He also had pretty terrible lottery luck getting getting #3 twice.