Signed By Boston - The Kemba Free Agency Thread

[BigSlam]

Losing an All-NBA player in his prime for nothing is disastrous asset management.

Even if you were in favor of rebuilding, this was not the way to go about it.

I get this - but it's the nature of the industry.

How many players (even All Stars) switch teams during FA? This is not something exclusive to our franchise/front office.

This year alone we might see KD, Kawhi, Butler, Irving, Kemba all move teams and their incumbent teams will likley get nothing in return.

This isn't a Charlotte thing - it's a FA thing.

[NCHeels2008]

I also don't believe Kemba's camp that he left because he wanted to play for a winner, he spent even May and June posturing how much he loves it here. I think Charlottes offer was cheap and he was insulted and took Bostons. Similar to a breakup or a job change you don't wanna say something that makes you look worse so he is now posturing that it was about playing for a contender.

[SWedd523]

I also don't believe Kemba's camp that he left because he wanted to play for a winner, he spent even May and June posturing how much he loves it here. I think Charlottes offer was cheap and he was insulted and took Bostons. Similar to a breakup or a job change you don't wanna say something that makes you look worse so he is now posturing that it was about playing for a contender.

Meh, if he really wanted to be here he'd have looked at the first offer, countered, and negotiated.

Not have gone "coolthxbai"

It kinda reads the opposite, IMO, like he was posturing about actually wanting to be here when instead he was ready to leave for greener pastures, but didn't want to Ant Davis his way out of town. Which I'm cool with, by the way. He gave the team 8 years with no positive outcome in sight

[BigSlam]

I also don't believe Kemba's camp that he left because he wanted to play for a winner, he spent even May and June posturing how much he loves it here. I think Charlottes offer was cheap and he was insulted and took Bostons. Similar to a breakup or a job change you don't wanna say something that makes you look worse so he is now posturing that it was about playing for a contender.

Meh, if he really wanted to be here he'd have looked at the first offer, countered, and negotiated.

Not have gone "coolthxbai"

It kinda reads the opposite, IMO, like he was posturing about actually wanting to be here when instead he was ready to leave for greener pastures, but didn't want to Ant Davis his way out of town. Which I'm cool with, by the way. He gave the team 8 years with no positive outcome in sight

100% the piece that seems to keep being overlooked.

The narrative is that we low balled him and that's what so many people are focusing on. But at least we came to the table with the offer and opened up negotiations.

It would appear that Kemba's camp weren't even willing to discuss/negotiate - which makes me wonder that if we didn't overpay him (which he knew we wouldn't as MJ and Mitch had said publicly we wouldn't go into the lux), Kemba leaving was a forgone conclusion.

Why are some overlooking Kemba's role in this process and the breakdown?

And if people point to him being so offended by the offer that he refused to enter negotiations then he let his pride and ego get in the way.

[W_HAMILTON]

The truth will come out eventually. Either we eventually made a decent offer to Kemba and he chose to leave anyway (in which case, the blame is on Kemba) or else we lowballed him and didn't make a move to up our offer (in which case, the blame is on us).

[MasterIchiro]

So far I like Kupchak so I'm in wait-and-see mode on his plan. This is a franchise altering event and any seasoned GM would have contingency plans. Hope he can execute better than he did last deadline. It takes 2 to tango.

[Bassman]

The truth will come out eventually. Either we eventually made a decent offer to Kemba and he chose to leave anyway (in which case, the blame is on Kemba) or else we lowballed him and didn't make a move to up our offer (in which case, the blame is on us).

I hope the facts will emerge, but also believe this team screwed up royally by not getting any asset return via deadline trade. Screw the all-star game...MJ is feeling just as much backlash now, if not more, had they dealt Kemba prior to hosting that event. Whatever communication occurred this past season between Kemba and the team did not flush out the truth. We know Kemba states that his return was going to depend on what the team did to get him help. He was public about that. We did nothing. That convinced Kemba that things weren’t changing. MJ and Mitch didn’t have the fortitude to deal Kemba despite the backlash. The very one player we could deal that would generate the largest return is now a ghost, and we have nothing to show for it.

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[-Ian-]

Lol no at Rozier.

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[yosemiteben]

I'll take Rozier on a value contract for two years, but solely for the purpose of hoping he improves and can be traded for a pick. We have to figure out ways to turn Kemba leaving into some sort of value via S&T.

[JDuaneWayne]

I'll take Rozier on a value contract for two years, but solely for the purpose of hoping he improves and can be traded for a pick. We have to figure out ways to turn Kemba leaving into some sort of value via S&T.

I honestly don't see how it backfires, if he improves win for us, if he doesn't we aren't going to be major players in FA anytime soon

[JDR720]

If we can s&T Kemba for Rozier and a draft pick, and Rozier is signed to a reasonable deal then I guess that would be fine.

[BigSlam]

I'll take Rozier on a value contract for two years, but solely for the purpose of hoping he improves and can be traded for a pick. We have to figure out ways to turn Kemba leaving into some sort of value via S&T.

Considering Boston and Charlotte are pushed up to the cap wouldn't the salaries have to match?

So if Kemba is $35mil a year going out are you suggesting we have Rozier at $35mil coming back?

[316Hornets]

So, are we still going off the narrative Jordan isn't cheap? 5 year 160mil?

Rest of the league is taking notice too. Nobody wants to put all they have into it like Kemba and be insulted.

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[wco81]

IF the Hornets offered say 5-years 180 million, that would be $40 million more than what the Celtics could pay.

He still wouldn't have stayed for that?

So MJ was offering much less?

[BigSlam]

IF the Hornets offered say 5-years 180 million, that would be $40 million more than what the Celtics could pay.

He still wouldn't have stayed for that?

So MJ was offering much less?

He was reportedly offered $20mil more than the Celtics could pay.............and it didn't matter.

[HornetJail]

IF the Hornets offered say 5-years 180 million, that would be $40 million more than what the Celtics could pay.

He still wouldn't have stayed for that?

So MJ was offering much less?

He was reportedly offered $20mil more than the Celtics could pay.............and it didn't matter.

over one less year. MJ and Co. offered him about $5M less per year than Boston did. That's an abomination

[BlackOutBuzz]

IF the Hornets offered say 5-years 180 million, that would be $40 million more than what the Celtics could pay.

He still wouldn't have stayed for that?

So MJ was offering much less?

He was reportedly offered $20mil more than the Celtics could pay.............and it didn't matter.

Less per year, though.

$35M annually from Boston vs. the rumored $32M from us.

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[BigSlam]

IF the Hornets offered say 5-years 180 million, that would be $40 million more than what the Celtics could pay.

He still wouldn't have stayed for that?

So MJ was offering much less?

He was reportedly offered $20mil more than the Celtics could pay.............and it didn't matter.

over one less year. MJ and Co. offered him about $5M less per year than Boston did. That's an abomination

They reportedly offered him a contract that was worth $20 million dollars more than anyone else could. Years per are irrelevant. The worth of the contract was +$20 million.

And $20 millions dollars more didn't move the needle even slightly enough for Kemba to engage in any negotiations. The moment that information dropped he was linked to Boston.