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So nice they named him twice: The PJ Washington Jr. Thread

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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#101 » by JDR720 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:02 pm

LofJ wrote:His actual first name is Paul. It's a good combo with Washington, not sure why he goes by PJ.

his middle name is Jamaine.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#102 » by BigSlam » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:37 pm

LofJ wrote:His actual first name is Paul. It's a good combo with Washington, not sure why he goes by PJ.

Isn’t his Dad also a Paul?

So I thought P.J. = Paul Junior.


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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#103 » by SWedd523 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:47 pm

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LofJ wrote:His actual first name is Paul. It's a good combo with Washington, not sure why he goes by PJ.

Isn’t his Dad also a Paul?

So I thought P.J. = Paul Junior.


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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#104 » by BlackOutBuzz » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:45 pm

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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#105 » by BlackOutBuzz » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:46 pm

Good article here, "The Case for PJ Washington":

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/03/15/case-pj-washington/

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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#106 » by BigSlam » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:20 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:Good article here, "The Case for PJ Washington":

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/03/15/case-pj-washington/

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His arms look photo shopped in that pic they’re so long!!


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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#107 » by amcoolio » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:54 pm

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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#108 » by LofJ » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:08 pm

Yeah, his release is high and consistent. With his wingspan he'll be able to shoot over just about any defender that covers him outside of bigs.

Only the long freaks like Paul George, Giannis, Kawhi, and Simmons will be able to get their hands high enough to bother his shot.

I particularly loved that sequence where he tried to post up, saw the defense collapse on him, so he quickly passed it out, leaked out to the 3 point line, and got ready to shoot. That was professional level positioning and awareness.
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P.J. Washington's potential upside 

Post#109 » by Najee12 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:52 pm

KingCat wrote:I see his basement as DJ White, his floor as Marv/Tolliver and his ceiling as A modern day David West. Not a very exciting prospect. The last time there was this little buzz or excitement around a prospect was the Henderson pick back in 09


A David West/Paul Millsap-type player, in his prime, will get you 18-20 points and 8 rebounds per game with a few All-Star Game appearances. West during his New Orleans days was very effective playing off Chris Paul and scoring on mid-range jumpers and secondary breaks (he had six seasons where he averaged at least 17 points per game in New Orleans, including two seasons averaging 20-plus points per game).

Washington seems like he could develop into a very good pick-and-roll player who can flare out to 18 feet and hit that jumper consistently. He also scores well going to the basket, though he could develop more of a post game. Obviously, a lot depends on his development moving forward, but it is promising how Washington changed his shooting mechanics in his sophomore season at Kentucky (he looked slightly awkward shooting as a freshman, particularly with his release).
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#110 » by MPM » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:09 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:Good article here, "The Case for PJ Washington":

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/03/15/case-pj-washington/

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Thanks for the link - been warming up to the pick and this helps.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#111 » by KembaWalker » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:00 pm

this guy will actually learn a lot from Marvin and probably become Marvin + a little extra
which wouldn't be a bad 12th pick at all
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Re: P.J. Washington's potential upside 

Post#112 » by SWedd523 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:15 pm

Najee12 wrote:
KingCat wrote:I see his basement as DJ White, his floor as Marv/Tolliver and his ceiling as A modern day David West. Not a very exciting prospect. The last time there was this little buzz or excitement around a prospect was the Henderson pick back in 09


A David West/Paul Millsap-type player, in his prime, will get you 18-20 points and 8 rebounds per game with a few All-Star Game appearances. West during his New Orleans days was very effective playing off Chris Paul and scoring on mid-range jumpers and secondary breaks (he had six seasons where he averaged at least 17 points per game in New Orleans, including two seasons averaging 20-plus points per game).

Washington seems like he could develop into a very good pick-and-roll player who can flare out to 18 feet and hit that jumper consistently. He also scores well going to the basket, though he could develop more of a post game. Obviously, a lot depends on his development moving forward, but it is promising how Washington changed his shooting mechanics in his sophomore season at Kentucky (he looked slightly awkward shooting as a freshman, particularly with his release).

And West didn't have three point range, which Washington does.

If you told me we were drafting David West with more range at 12 in this draft, I'd be ecstatic
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#113 » by JDR720 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:38 pm

Those makes are all clean swishes too, going straight through the net. Not bouncing around and going in.
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Re: P.J. Washington's potential upside 

Post#114 » by KingCat » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:46 pm

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KingCat wrote:I see his basement as DJ White, his floor as Marv/Tolliver and his ceiling as A modern day David West. Not a very exciting prospect. The last time there was this little buzz or excitement around a prospect was the Henderson pick back in 09


A David West/Paul Millsap-type player, in his prime, will get you 18-20 points and 8 rebounds per game with a few All-Star Game appearances. West during his New Orleans days was very effective playing off Chris Paul and scoring on mid-range jumpers and secondary breaks (he had six seasons where he averaged at least 17 points per game in New Orleans, including two seasons averaging 20-plus points per game).

Washington seems like he could develop into a very good pick-and-roll player who can flare out to 18 feet and hit that jumper consistently. He also scores well going to the basket, though he could develop more of a post game. Obviously, a lot depends on his development moving forward, but it is promising how Washington changed his shooting mechanics in his sophomore season at Kentucky (he looked slightly awkward shooting as a freshman, particularly with his release).

And West didn't have three point range, which Washington does.

If you told me we were drafting David West with more range at 12 in this draft, I'd be ecstatic


His ceiling is West. Not his most likely outcome. He will most likely be a Anthony Tolliver/Marv level player. Y’all really do not know how the basement-floor-ceiling analogy works
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Re: P.J. Washington's potential upside 

Post#115 » by SWedd523 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:48 am

KingCat wrote:
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Najee12 wrote:
A David West/Paul Millsap-type player, in his prime, will get you 18-20 points and 8 rebounds per game with a few All-Star Game appearances. West during his New Orleans days was very effective playing off Chris Paul and scoring on mid-range jumpers and secondary breaks (he had six seasons where he averaged at least 17 points per game in New Orleans, including two seasons averaging 20-plus points per game).

Washington seems like he could develop into a very good pick-and-roll player who can flare out to 18 feet and hit that jumper consistently. He also scores well going to the basket, though he could develop more of a post game. Obviously, a lot depends on his development moving forward, but it is promising how Washington changed his shooting mechanics in his sophomore season at Kentucky (he looked slightly awkward shooting as a freshman, particularly with his release).

And West didn't have three point range, which Washington does.

If you told me we were drafting David West with more range at 12 in this draft, I'd be ecstatic


His ceiling is West. Not his most likely outcome. He will most likely be a Anthony Tolliver/Marv level player. Y’all really do not know how the basement-floor-ceiling analogy works


Or maybe we just have our own opinions and don't attempt to portray them as fact, like some others around here, right KingCat?
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Re: P.J. Washington's potential upside 

Post#116 » by KingCat » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:28 am

SWedd523 wrote:
KingCat wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:And West didn't have three point range, which Washington does.

If you told me we were drafting David West with more range at 12 in this draft, I'd be ecstatic


His ceiling is West. Not his most likely outcome. He will most likely be a Anthony Tolliver/Marv level player. Y’all really do not know how the basement-floor-ceiling analogy works


Or maybe we just have our own opinions and don't attempt to portray them as fact, like some others around here, right KingCat?


I know opinions are opinions, but I was more responding to you making it seem like I was complaining about drafting a player who is guaranteed to end up as David West with a 3 shot. If he becomes that then this is the Hornets best draft since Kemba. I just think that outcome is very unlikely
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#117 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:11 am

Lol Anthony Tolliver. Good God.
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Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#118 » by JMAC3 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:49 am

These were my predraft comps:

Great: Al Horford
Good: Kyle Kuzma
Average: Marvin Williams
Below: Mike Scott


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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#119 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:00 am

Paul Millsap for me.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte: PJ Washington 

Post#120 » by Braggins » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:38 am

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/20/scouting-reports-kentucky-syracuse-jarrett-culver-carsen-edwards-2-way-prospects/

Both guys from the stepien in this podcast have him 7th overall on their boards. Dean Demakis has him 4th or 5th. I'm getting pretty sold on this guy.

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