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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1181 » by UNCNYC » Mon Sep 7, 2020 10:39 am

If I were the Knicks instead of trading up I would just take either

Terry
Vassell
Dotson

with their pick
UPDATED 9-25-2020

3 - Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, Devin Vassell, LaMelo Ball

32 - Isaiah Joe, Jay Scrubb, Ty'shon Alexander, Karim Mane, CJ Elleby, Elijah Hughes

56 - LaMar Stevens, Paul Reed, Rayshaun Hammonds, K. Doolitle

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1182 » by James Gatz » Mon Sep 7, 2020 9:03 pm

This is a pretty fun quiz that will put together a big board for you

https://stephennoh.github.io/bigboardcreator/
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1183 » by 316Hornets » Mon Sep 7, 2020 9:34 pm

James Gatz wrote:This is a pretty fun quiz that will put together a big board for you

https://stephennoh.github.io/bigboardcreator/


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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1184 » by BigSlam » Mon Sep 7, 2020 10:05 pm

James Gatz wrote:This is a pretty fun quiz that will put together a big board for you

https://stephennoh.github.io/bigboardcreator/

That is fun!! Great find by you - thanks for sharing.

Mine came out with:
1 LaMelo Ball
2 Onyeka Okongwu
3 Obi Toppin
4 James Wiseman
5 Devin Vassell
6 Tyrese Haliburton
7 Isaac Okoro
8 Anthony Edwards
9 Killian Hayes
10 Deni Avdija
11 Patrick Williams
12 Aleksej Pokusevski
13 Cole Anthony
14 Kira Lewis
15 RJ Hampton
16 Tyrese Maxey


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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1185 » by UNCNYC » Mon Sep 7, 2020 10:05 pm

There are a few more players in this years draft that I would like to see on our team besides these guys but these are the players I would be most happy to see drafted by us. These are the guys I became a fan of the most.

PG -
Killian Hayes
Tyrell Terry
LaMelo Ball

SG -
Isaiah Joe
Ty'shon Alexander

SF -
CJ Elleby

PF -
LaMar Stevens

C -
Zeke Nnaji
Jalen Smith
UPDATED 9-25-2020

3 - Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, Devin Vassell, LaMelo Ball

32 - Isaiah Joe, Jay Scrubb, Ty'shon Alexander, Karim Mane, CJ Elleby, Elijah Hughes

56 - LaMar Stevens, Paul Reed, Rayshaun Hammonds, K. Doolitle

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1186 » by UNCNYC » Mon Sep 7, 2020 10:17 pm

Lmao no way. I got Edwards number 1. Lol but it was fun but results way wrong. Unless I don't know myself lol

1 Anthony Edwards
2 LaMelo Ball
3 Obi Toppin
4 Devin Vassell
5 James Wiseman
6 Killian Hayes
7 Deni Avdija
8 Tyrese Haliburton
9 Kira Lewis
10 Cole Anthony
11 Isaac Okoro
12 Onyeka Okongwu
13 RJ Hampton
14 Tyrese Maxey
15 Patrick Williams
16 Aleksej Pokusevski
UPDATED 9-25-2020

3 - Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, Devin Vassell, LaMelo Ball

32 - Isaiah Joe, Jay Scrubb, Ty'shon Alexander, Karim Mane, CJ Elleby, Elijah Hughes

56 - LaMar Stevens, Paul Reed, Rayshaun Hammonds, K. Doolitle

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1187 » by UNCNYC » Mon Sep 7, 2020 10:28 pm

Isaiah Joe is gonna be interesting. I have seen some mocks with him going like 29 pick. and some almost undrafted. I hope he's there at 32 and we take him and I HOPE that Tyrell Terry is not there and I have to potentially regret not taking him at 32
UPDATED 9-25-2020

3 - Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, Devin Vassell, LaMelo Ball

32 - Isaiah Joe, Jay Scrubb, Ty'shon Alexander, Karim Mane, CJ Elleby, Elijah Hughes

56 - LaMar Stevens, Paul Reed, Rayshaun Hammonds, K. Doolitle

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1188 » by UNCNYC » Mon Sep 7, 2020 10:35 pm

I think if we were to draft

PICK 3 - Killian Hayes

PICK 32 - Isaiah Joe

PICK 56 - CJ Elleby, LaMar Stevens, Ty'Shon Alexander

I think I would FINALLY forgive this franchise for trading Kobe lol
UPDATED 9-25-2020

3 - Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, Devin Vassell, LaMelo Ball

32 - Isaiah Joe, Jay Scrubb, Ty'shon Alexander, Karim Mane, CJ Elleby, Elijah Hughes

56 - LaMar Stevens, Paul Reed, Rayshaun Hammonds, K. Doolitle

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1189 » by wilson115 » Mon Sep 7, 2020 11:02 pm

James Gatz wrote:This is a pretty fun quiz that will put together a big board for you

https://stephennoh.github.io/bigboardcreator/

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1190 » by UNCNYC » Mon Sep 7, 2020 11:15 pm

Being a GM can be fun but I think it can be stressful. For instance, if I were GM this year I would be EXTREMELY stressed out.

Reason is, I really like Killian Hayes, and I really like Tyrell Terry as players but I would hate to trade back and try and obtain Terry and hes not there. Imagine wanting 2 players and trading and getting neither. I would rather trade back to like 10 and get Terry but there is no promise he will be there. Some GM's are risk takers and will take a Porzigis or a be like Isaiah Thomas and draft players noone has heard of.

Since I like Hayes, Terry and Dotson I have extra insurance that Dotson will be there. But I like Terry and Hayes quite a bit more than Dotson.

I am also a bit weird in that I think that Terry is slightly better than Hayes but I am slightly more of a fan of Hayes so I would take him even tho I am a HUGE Terry fan and think hes the better player lol
UPDATED 9-25-2020

3 - Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, Devin Vassell, LaMelo Ball

32 - Isaiah Joe, Jay Scrubb, Ty'shon Alexander, Karim Mane, CJ Elleby, Elijah Hughes

56 - LaMar Stevens, Paul Reed, Rayshaun Hammonds, K. Doolitle

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1191 » by UNCNYC » Mon Sep 7, 2020 11:49 pm

Welp it's official. (you know me nothing is official until it's official) lmao. But from this moment I am drafting Tyrell Terry with our number 3 pick in the slightest of margins over Killian Hayes. Reason being is Terry suits my style on these boards. Meaning a guy who trades back and someone who favors the underdog. i.e. Jalen McDaniels, YuTa Watanabe.

So as of today my picks are

PICK 3 - Tyrell Terry

PICK 32 - Isaiah Joe

PICK 56 - Best available

I LOVE HAYES (so don't be surprised if I turn back in 10 minutes lmao) but I also think Terry is such an amazing talent. And potentially I get a free first rounder or two thrown in.
UPDATED 9-25-2020

3 - Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, Devin Vassell, LaMelo Ball

32 - Isaiah Joe, Jay Scrubb, Ty'shon Alexander, Karim Mane, CJ Elleby, Elijah Hughes

56 - LaMar Stevens, Paul Reed, Rayshaun Hammonds, K. Doolitle

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1192 » by amcoolio » Tue Sep 8, 2020 1:07 am

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/8/20/21374098/nba-mock-draft-2020-lottery-order-timberwolves-warriors-bulls

I agree with this mock. I wonder if there's a way to get both Okongwu and Hayes.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1193 » by amcoolio » Tue Sep 8, 2020 1:09 am

fatlever wrote:
amcoolio wrote:
-Ian- wrote:
Read on Twitter


• 22-Year-Old Cutoff for Lottery Picks
The question about whether to avoid older players in the lottery becomes relevant again this October. Obi Toppin, college basketball's National Player of the Year, already turned 22 and is expected to draw top-five interest.

On one hand, there is a perception that he's one of the safest options based on his physical profile and production. On the other, it's worth asking whether Toppin dominated college players because he was older and more physically developed. And then, does he still have the same window to improve? After all, he'll be starting his pro career later and closer to his ceiling.

• The Late Riser
• Low-Assist Wings
• Low-Block Bigs
• No Bankable Skill
The "master of none" prospects in the 2020 draft to worry about include potential lottery picks Deni Avdija, Isaac Okoro, Precious Achiuwa, Patrick Williams and RJ Hampton.


Good read. Thanks.

Avdija is still really young and playing against men and putting up winning basketball, and Okoro has Heat culture-like hunger so I like both of those, but I agree on Toppin. Want no part of him. Toppin would be good for the Nets or a team that needs to contend for the finals in the next few years.


article looks familiar..... hmmmm

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Eight-Common-Profiles-of-a-Bust---Back-by-Unpopular-Demand-2116/

what an amazing writer. i wonder what happened to that dude???


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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1194 » by LofJ » Tue Sep 8, 2020 3:02 am

I can understand thinking that Okongwu is a superior prospect to Wiseman; but what I don't understand is making the argument that a big shouldn't be selected in the top 3 and also advocating for Okongwu. The same arguments about the questionable impact on winning that bigs have in today's NBA would apply to both of them.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1195 » by amcoolio » Tue Sep 8, 2020 3:09 am

LofJ wrote:I can understand thinking that Okongwu is a superior prospect to Wiseman; but what I don't understand is making the argument that a big shouldn't be selected in the top 3 and also advocating for Okongwu. The same arguments about the questionable impact on winning that bigs have in today's NBA would apply to both of them.


Okongwu can guard multiple postions while Wiseman can only guard 5's, and probably only 5's that can't shoot
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1196 » by LofJ » Tue Sep 8, 2020 3:55 am

amcoolio wrote:
LofJ wrote:I can understand thinking that Okongwu is a superior prospect to Wiseman; but what I don't understand is making the argument that a big shouldn't be selected in the top 3 and also advocating for Okongwu. The same arguments about the questionable impact on winning that bigs have in today's NBA would apply to both of them.


Okongwu can guard multiple postions while Wiseman can only guard 5's, and probably only 5's that can't shoot


Defense is about more than positional versatility, especially for a big. A guy with Wiseman's size and athleticism can lock down the paint better than Okongwu can. And while everyone is in love with 3 pointers a clean shot at the rim still generates more points per possession. So in other words good rim protection is still valuable, and Wiseman projects as the best in this class at it.

Wiseman can also fly down the court in transition. He isn't a slow plodder with no ability to affect the game outside of the paint.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1197 » by amcoolio » Tue Sep 8, 2020 4:07 am

Okongwu has an insane block percentage if I remember correctly, #1 in the class, and that translates very favorably to the pro game

If Okongwu was a few inches taller he's without a doubt the #1 pick in the draft
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1198 » by LofJ » Tue Sep 8, 2020 4:28 am

amcoolio wrote:Okongwu has an insane block percentage if I remember correctly, #1 in the class, and that translates very favorably to the pro game

If Okongwu was a few inches taller he's without a doubt the #1 pick in the draft


Wiseman's block percentage is better. Small sample size yes, but he was pretty good against competition despite having no game prep because he didn't think he'd be able to play.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1199 » by UNCNYC » Tue Sep 8, 2020 9:23 am

Hayes is who I want us to draft as a fan of this team but Terry is who I am picking as of now for my pick. If that makes any sense lol
UPDATED 9-25-2020

3 - Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, Devin Vassell, LaMelo Ball

32 - Isaiah Joe, Jay Scrubb, Ty'shon Alexander, Karim Mane, CJ Elleby, Elijah Hughes

56 - LaMar Stevens, Paul Reed, Rayshaun Hammonds, K. Doolitle

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1200 » by UNCNYC » Tue Sep 8, 2020 9:53 am

TALE OF THE TAPE - Killian Hayes VS Tyrell Terry

HANDLES - Terry

SHOOTING - Terry

MULTIPLE POSITIONS - Terry

PASSING - Hayes

STAR POWER - Hayes

SHOT CREATING - Even

DRIVING - Even

REBOUNDING - Even

DEFENSE - Even

SPEED - Even

ATHLETICISM - Even

NOTE - Hayes is my favorite of the two, I want us to draft him. I am choosing Terry as my pick for the boards tho.
UPDATED 9-25-2020

3 - Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, Devin Vassell, LaMelo Ball

32 - Isaiah Joe, Jay Scrubb, Ty'shon Alexander, Karim Mane, CJ Elleby, Elijah Hughes

56 - LaMar Stevens, Paul Reed, Rayshaun Hammonds, K. Doolitle

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