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Chapelchilla wrote:Lebron thinking with his pocketbook and not his brain. Catering to the Chinese Govt over Hong Kong's Freedom is pretty low.

316Hornets wrote:

Chapelchilla wrote:Lebron thinking with his pocketbook and not his brain. Catering to the Chinese Govt over Hong Kong's Freedom is pretty low.

I disagree with your opinion on the matter. Asking NBA players to be spokesmen to encourage more protest is not a position you want to put them in and you don't know what type of reaction that might have. I much prefer to see a neutral stance from Lebron and players as demonstrated here. Let the political leaders direct the politics, let the players play.

Liver_Pooty wrote:Lebron has no problem being outspoken about literally any other issue, but one that suddenly may bother his bank account even just the slightest bit hes against. Its hypocrisy at its finest.

Chapelchilla wrote:

316Hornets wrote:

Chapelchilla wrote:Lebron thinking with his pocketbook and not his brain. Catering to the Chinese Govt over Hong Kong's Freedom is pretty low.

I disagree with your opinion on the matter. Asking NBA players to be spokesmen to encourage more protest is not a position you want to put them in and you don't know what type of reaction that might have. I much prefer to see a neutral stance from Lebron and players as demonstrated here. Let the political leaders direct the politics, let the players play.

I respect your opinion but Lebron DID NOT remain neutral, he called out Morey as being ignorant for supporting the Hong Kong people. He was actively toeing the Communist Party of China's line to sell more shoes.

Liver_Pooty wrote:Lebron has no problem being outspoken about literally any other issue, but one that suddenly may bother his bank account even just the slightest bit hes against. Its hypocrisy at its finest.

316Hornets wrote:

Chapelchilla wrote:

316Hornets wrote:
I disagree with your opinion on the matter. Asking NBA players to be spokesmen to encourage more protest is not a position you want to put them in and you don't know what type of reaction that might have. I much prefer to see a neutral stance from Lebron and players as demonstrated here. Let the political leaders direct the politics, let the players play.

I respect your opinion but Lebron DID NOT remain neutral, he called out Morey as being ignorant for supporting the Hong Kong people. He was actively toeing the Communist Party of China's line to sell more shoes.

No, he actually did remain neutral. He only called out Morey because he was not being neutral. These guys are involved in a business that makes billions of dollars. Why should a GM or a star player come out and say one way or the other unless it is agreed by the entire league. Morey spoke out of place. He has free speech, but when you are a business leader, you don't speak out unless the other business leaders agree.


And.. just fyi, I can almost assure you Nike and the NBA knew and agreed to what Lebron said.

Liver_Pooty wrote:

316Hornets wrote:

Chapelchilla wrote:
I respect your opinion but Lebron DID NOT remain neutral, he called out Morey as being ignorant for supporting the Hong Kong people. He was actively toeing the Communist Party of China's line to sell more shoes.

No, he actually did remain neutral. He only called out Morey because he was not being neutral. These guys are involved in a business that makes billions of dollars. Why should a GM or a star player come out and say one way or the other unless it is agreed by the entire league. Morey spoke out of place. He has free speech, but when you are a business leader, you don't speak out unless the other business leaders agree.


And.. just fyi, I can almost assure you Nike and the NBA knew and agreed to what Lebron said.

So basically Morey has free speech but he doesnt

fatlever wrote:frank did it again last night. can he finally do it when it counts, and not preseason, or the rookie/soph game, or the last month of a wasted season? we'll see.

"The losses have already been substantial," Silver said at the Time 100 Summit, in his first public comments about the NBA's relationship with China since he returned to the U.S. from China earlier this week. "Our games are not back on the air in China as we speak, and we'll see what happens next."

"Maybe I was trying too hard to be a diplomat," Silver said. "I didn't see it as my role as the commissioner of the NBA to weigh in on the substance of the protest."

"We made clear that we were being asked to fire him, by the Chinese government, by the parties we dealt with, government and business," Silver said. "We said there's no chance that's happening. There's no chance we'll even discipline him."

"These American values -- we are an American business -- travel with us wherever we go," Silver said. "And one of those values is free expression. We wanted to make sure that everyone understood we were supporting free expression."

amcoolio wrote:GM survey is out! Charlotte is one of two teams that didn't get votes for any category whatsoever.

fatlever wrote:do not like that j brown deal. love the sabonis deal, but he still needs to be traded to a team where he isnt competing with myles for center mins.