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Who should start?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:09 am
by JDR720
So, this Rozier-Bacon-Miles-PJ-Cody lineup sucks.

Lets change it to Graham-Cody-Miles-PJ-Cody #2

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:25 am
by Buzzzz
Bacon is the only guy I'd like switched out, move him to the bench and start Monk. Our offense completely stalls when Bacon is on the court because he doesnt want to pass the ball.

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:33 am
by 316Hornets
My goal for this season is to develop players and not necessarily play our best lineup at all times. So for development purposes, I think the starting lineup now is fine.

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:44 am
by fatlever
give it 5 more games...

then move bacon out for monk, graham or co.ma.

5 more

then billy for cz

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:36 am
by Diop
I hope Rozier doesn't continue to suck, so I don't have to listen to people rant about the contract

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:56 pm
by MasterIchiro
I'm so pissed WCS rejected us. We'd be so much easier to watch. The front court is really our greatest weakness.

Monk worked hard last night on his defensive assignments. He's playing within himself. If JB wants to greenlight him he will expand his game a little more. Currently he's being ask to play within himself.

Rozier - Monk - Miles - PJ - Biz

That's who I'd start.

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:12 pm
by UNCNYC
I like

Rozier - Graham
Monk - Martin
Bridges - Bacon
PJ - Williams
Biz - Zeller

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:03 pm
by Snidely FC
I would start Cody Martin in Bacon's place

Rozier
Martin
Miles
PJ
Zeller

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:20 am
by Vanderbilt_Grad
I like the theory of Martin, but not sure he's ready yet.

Terry, Devonte, Mile, PJ, Cody Z would be my pick at this point.

I would stagger Terry & Devonte the way Houston did with Harden & Chris Paul last year. Devonte's playmaking and scoring are needed on that first unit.

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:30 am
by MasterIchiro
I think we saw our best lineup tonight.

Graham
Monk
Miles
PJ
Cody

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:28 pm
by Hornet Mania
I'm not anxious to shake up the lineup just yet, as long as JB keeps giving minutes to the hot hand it really doesn't matter anyway. Now if he were like Cliff and locking certain guys into 35mpg regardless of performance just because they're 'the starter' it would be different. I'd give it 10 more games at least before making these changes.

-At this point I feel most strongly that Biz deserves to start over Zeller. It's strange because Zeller was great the first few games of the year so I hope he reasserts himself. Maybe being the first energy big off the bench will focus him a bit.

-If Bacon continues to suck then give Monk a shot with the starters.

-If Graham keeps playing this well he is clearly our best guard and should probably be the long-term starting PG. I'm a bit hesitant to send Rozier to the bench though because in the event Graham is our PG of the future we should really trade Rozier and a swift benching to start the year is not going to help that cause. For now I like Graham in the 30mpg backup PG role, in some cases finishing the game with Rozier. It doesn't bother me to not necessarily start our best 5, I've always believed there is a real tactical advantage to bringing one of your best best players off the bench and NBA teams don't exploit that nearly enough. That's the one advantageous Spurs thing (Ginobli's usage pattern) the league never really copied.

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:17 pm
by vexco
I just don't like Bacon. I'd drop him for Monk or Cody Martin at this point. They can at least participate in ball movement while Bacon is a black hole.

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:33 pm
by LofJ
I agree with Ichiro that our best players so far have been Graham, Monk, Bridges/Martin, Washington, and Zeller. Those guys and Rozier, Marvin, and occasionally Biz should be the main rotation. I'd bury Bacon on the deep bench and give his minutes to Martin and Batum/MKG.

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:52 pm
by Vanderbilt_Grad
Who is having the most impact on lack of ball movement, Bacon or Terry?

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:34 am
by BigSlam
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Who is having the most impact on lack of ball movement, Bacon or Terry?

Bacon.

By a large margin.


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Re: Who should start?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:01 am
by Diop
BigSlam wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Who is having the most impact on lack of ball movement, Bacon or Terry?

Bacon.

By a large margin.


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yep, I think I remember only 1 time Bacon has passed out of a drive and it ended up going out of bounds.
He is Maggette without the free throws

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:19 am
by MasterIchiro
In his post-game interview, JB said he will be evaluating the first unit and that first and third quarters are costing them and they can't keep falling into a hole. He credited the bench with getting them back in games and winning games.

When I listened to his interview I got the sense he's about to make a change.

I don't think he will bump Terry. Bacon is about to be thrust from the rotation.

The starting backcourt will include Monk, Martin or Graham. I'm thinking since Graham leads the team in points and assists and plays big minutes, he's due for the promotion. I don't know how JB will stagger. But I do think Malik will be first sub for Rozier.

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:21 am
by MasterIchiro
I'm thinking we will see

Graham - PG
Rozier - SG
Miles - SF
PJ - PF
Cody - C
Monk - 6th man

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:56 am
by Rich4114
I don’t think they’ll do it because of the politics, but Devonte is our best PG and should be starting. Rozier can play along side him but then that removes a PG from the second unit.

Additionally, the Devonte + Monk backcourt has been fruitful. We should swap back courts. Devonte and Monk for Rozier and Bacon.

Re: Who should start?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:03 pm
by cornchip
Rich4114 wrote:I don’t think they’ll do it because of the politics, but Devonte is our best PG and should be starting. Rozier can play along side him but then that removes a PG from the second unit.

Additionally, the Devonte + Monk backcourt has been fruitful. We should swap back courts. Devonte and Monk for Rozier and Bacon.


Agree with this 100%.

The question is who should start and without considering the bench it should be:

Graham-Rozier-Miles-PJ-Zeller

Taking the bench into account, I would go with:

Graham-Monk-Miles-PJ-Zeller

Won't happen and I like what Rozier provides in terms of perimeter defense to the starting unit but it's time to see Devonte vs. starting PG's.