stinger14 wrote:RafStone wrote:Bassman wrote:Also for those thinking having Lonzo here would help us keep LaMelo; I think it’s good for each Ball to carve out their own identity with their own team. That family dynamic was so thick and controlled, it probably seems refreshing to find your own space and place.
This works in a lot of angles. For Charlotte and MJ, this would get them on national tv regularly. Not to mention these two are incredibly high IQ playmakers who have the size, skill, ability to play off of eachother and play the 1 or the 2. The ability for the brothers to play together could keep them in Charlotte where many free agents aren't clamoring to go. For smaller market teams, you have to over pay a bit, so you may pay lonzo 5 million more or whatever yearly than selsewhere, but on the other hand who can you get for thee same amount and the ball brothers with the right leash from a coach(get MDA, the best unlocker of good playmakers) they can pay an exciting brand ball players and can push the ball up in transition and they are both athletic and defensive savvy. There aren't many more promising things for Charlotte's future to bring these two guys together and they are easier to build around since they can playmake so well so get in shooters and finishers and they can do a lot with high useage rates.
You mentioned their size and ability to play the 1 and 2, but I want to add that their size gives us the ability to play a 3 guard lineup at times, especially when LaMelo gets stronger.
I agree, in this nba they can easily do a 3 guard lineup which can lead to a problem for any team dealing with 3 playmakers where the ball doesn't stick in their hands.
We could get redick, adams. Hayes doesn't make sense for them .he fits their timeline for their star talent and they got him at the 10th pick. I think we often let ideals and 2k trades get in our system, but therers always compromise and how does it make sense for the other side.
New orleans doesn't use Lonzo in a way that optimizes his specific gifts. He has adjusted and become a 3/d who has pushed the ball up, but with a coach who givves a lot of leash he would lead the league in assists..this years. You gotta watch the games, not look at the states because the stats are a result of the context of your useage, offense system, and in my opinion new orleans is selling zion short by not having letting him control the point more and zion will still be great, but it will be harder for him without lonzo there. Lonzo is uncanny in how similar his approach is to jason kidd in that he isn't a ball dominant creator, he sees the floor well and makes hockey assists and the type of player that can just keep a flow going rather than a harden like dominant point guard dribbling and creating well. He is like a conductor, the fact that he improved his shot so fast is a massive bonus on being flexible with his useage with lamelo and then he is or will be an elite defender too.
Its charlotte, you're not going to hit homeruns, we have to over pay zeller, we had to overpay hayward...otherwise he wouldn't have been here, thats the reality until they get some trust and identity in this league. If I'm charlotte, i'm all over lonzo and new orleans not using him right and its a unique opportunity that won't be there for his next contract and if people are trying to be 'fiscally' responsible when you're charlotte that is a great way to cycle mediocrity and i guess if you want keep some change in MJ's pockets. He'll raise the prices on us no doubt as its the business, i don't understand why we are trying to be prudent for him especially when we are just not getting many people wanting to come to charlotte unless the check is way better like hayward.
You have a generational talent possibly in Lamelo, Do it all to keep him, don't be like anthony davis with new orleans. The dude dealt with mediocre point guards and moving pieces all while he wanted to stay. Their most successful year was with Rondo and he publicly said it made a massive difference having him, rondo himself said he'd even consider a discount to stay...ownership didnt make an offer, we got 'elfrid payton' perhaps there stats were similar and he was younger, but you have to consider all the context. Ad was soon gone with all their blunders and it wasn't premeditated before new orleans showed an incompetence in how they manage to waste away these short nba careers. Lamelo is a publicity gold mind, seat and rating guy, and hes a damn smart basketball player with loads of potential if we surround him right. Neither him and lonzo are guys you give the ball to and get out of the way like harden, but they can if surrounded by complimentary pieces make a winner. Huge chance for charolotte gettinghim at the no 3, now better act because players aren't going to wait. You got 7 years from now to his second extension when it makes financial sense for players to jump ship. After lonzo's experience, the ball family knows it may not even be worth the first extension if they are not using him right.
