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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1941 » by Diop » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:18 am

Rays Pompadour wrote:
Diop wrote:Wait till bagley gets bought out


I wonder if Kupchak could work out a Carey for Bagley swap. That would be poetic justice, I think...a Carolina guy trading two useless Duke players for each other.

He gets paid $11 mill, we’d have to up an oubre to match

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1942 » by Rays Pompadour » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:28 am

Diop wrote:
Rays Pompadour wrote:
Diop wrote:Wait till bagley gets bought out


I wonder if Kupchak could work out a Carey for Bagley swap. That would be poetic justice, I think...a Carolina guy trading two useless Duke players for each other.

He gets paid $11 mill, we’d have to up an oubre to match

Not worth it


Well, I was more for the irony than the reality. I'd just as soon keep Vern anyway. Can't stand pouters.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1943 » by luciano-davidwesley » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:29 am

Plumlee and Hayward works straight up for Giannis. We could play him at the 5 :lol:
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1944 » by CuseMayne » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:32 am

luciano-davidwesley wrote:Plumlee and Hayward works straight up for Giannis. We could play him at the 5 :lol:


Not a bad idea. Hard to see either team saying no :wink:

The real information that would be cool to know would be if Mitch is willing to part with Rozier or Hayward. Because if not, it feels like we won't be able to acquire anything more than a decent stopgap via a trade.

And if the choice was between those 2, I'm personally saying goodbye to TRo.
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Post#1945 » by Roll Tide 09 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:26 pm

Just sign Cousins and try to swing a small trade for PJ Tucker so we can win a playoff series.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1946 » by Roll Tide 09 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:59 am

I really hope we can flip Washington for either picks or a young, but more established prospect. He really needs to stay away. It seems like whenever we start trying to play him, we lose chemistry.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1947 » by Rays Pompadour » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:05 pm

Roll Tide 09 wrote:I really hope we can flip Washington for either picks or a young, but more established prospect. He really needs to stay away. It seems like whenever we start trying to play him, we lose chemistry.

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That's because Washington's not a center. And there's not enough dog in him to play out of position.

I think the Hornets are learning that a severely limited Nick Richards is a better fit than a drifting square playing in a round hole.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1948 » by yosemiteben » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:48 pm

Very much do not agree with the take that we are better served with Richards at the 5 compared to PJ.

Would love to see someone try to use some stats to support that argument.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1949 » by JDR720 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:45 pm

PJ + Ish + 2nd + McDaniels for Theis + Tate
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1950 » by SWedd523 » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:11 am

But why?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1951 » by yosemiteben » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:30 am

SWedd523 wrote:But why?
Seriously
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1952 » by JDR720 » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:39 am

Theis can start or be a better backup C and Tate is a solid bench player. Averaging 12/7 this season.

Houston get a better prospect and some half-decent stuff for Theis.

Ish is there for his contract.

Melo - Rozier (yep, I did it again)
Gordon - Bouknight
Martin - Tate
Miles - Oubre
Theis - Plumlee (or the reverse)

I think it makes us better. Ish is easily replicable, McDaniels is meh and we're doing fine without PJ. If anything, Houston can probably do better.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1953 » by Diop » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:58 am

I’m not against trading Washington but I want a bit more than that.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1954 » by yosemiteben » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:47 am

Diop wrote:I’m not against trading Washington but I want a bit more than that.
I personally wouldn't trade McDaniels for Theis straight up, and definitely wouldn't trade PJ for him. That's a major sell low trade.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1955 » by wilson115 » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:53 am

Speaking of the Rockets, how about John Wall if/when the buy-out happens.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1956 » by BigSlam » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:20 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Diop wrote:I’m not against trading Washington but I want a bit more than that.
I personally wouldn't trade McDaniels for Theis straight up, and definitely wouldn't trade PJ for him. That's a major sell low trade.

Couldn’t agree more.

Can’t work out why some posters are so enamoured with players like Theis being some sort of upgrade.

A player like him would be a lateral move - at best.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1957 » by Rays Pompadour » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:49 am

yosemiteben wrote:Very much do not agree with the take that we are better served with Richards at the 5 compared to PJ.

Would love to see someone try to use some stats to support that argument.


The sample size would hamper such an analysis, don't you think? And my argument is that PJ would be better served at the 4. Lacking data points for that, too.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1958 » by KEMBAtheMETEOR » Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:44 am

JDR720 wrote:PJ + Ish + 2nd + McDaniels for Theis + Tate

Theis is probably around neutral value, probably a 2nd... this is a wild overpay for either him or Tate, or both.

Plumlee and 2 2nds for Theis is probably something both teams should accept.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1959 » by JDR720 » Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:36 am

Trading Plumlee for another average center doesn't make the team better.

PJ is the only one in the trade from our end that has decent value.

Personally, I think McDaniels isn't anything special. Tate, IMO, is better than he is.

Tate would be our best perimeter defender, maybe best overall defender too. That's the main reason I added him to the deal. If we want to be a good team, we need someone besides Miles than can guard others teams top players.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/rockets/article/Jae-Sean-Tate-becoming-Rockets-stopper-on-16592478.php

Our defense isn't good and our centers aren't good. If we want to improve those situations, we have to be willing to trade something of value. We aren't going to trade any of Melo/Rozier/Gordon or Miles. Trading Plumlee is pointless. And I doubt we'd trade Kai or Bou. So that leaves PJ.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1960 » by Diop » Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:48 am

I’m also not holding my breath for a trade, I don’t see one happening in a hurry.

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